Must be the graphite but am wary as don't know if it is fine enough not to block the oil channels and/or oil filters.

Confident in LM MOS2 as read extensively on Bob Is The Oil Guy that the MOS2 used are fine enough to not block these.

Yep , I heard about graphite powder from bitog as a kind of solid lubricants .

I consider this Elf Molygraphite as a form of solid lubricant in this trial .

To my surprise it's mixing (of about 100 mL) runs smoother and quieter . Hence intending to continue this mixing practice to use up the unused Elf , never mind the Euro OEM approved oils I have been using is itself a fully formulated oil supposedly doesn't require additional oil additives .

Besides I'm also quite happy with its blotter spot performance .

This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 23 2020, 12:37 PM

Does it work smoother and quieter for you with this LM adding ?

This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 23 2020, 12:41 PM

Personal experience, Yes (but others may not say the same).

But bear in mind, many high end lubricants already added small amount of moly into it's formulation. I add extra for my own reasons and use.

I use this LM MoS2 additive too, but only on lower grade semi-syn EO. Never used on SHU as I personally feel it would be downright a waste when SHU already has tri-nuclear Moly.

But actually I am using Tan Chong's label of MoS2, which is an OEM label of LM. Can find it online in Lazada/Shopee at a price that was cheaper than LM itself. Same smooth/quieter feeling as LM.

True that M1 0W40 or SHU 5W40 already have some friction modifiers in Moly and Boron and fully formulated . Amsoil SS 5W30 has a lot more than M1 and SHU above .
Not quite need extra from mixing in a way .

However , semisyn or mineral oil that comes without Moly and/or Boron additives would benefit more from the marginal addition of Elf Molygraphite or LM MoS2 in reduction of friction if not smoothness .

This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 24 2020, 05:29 PM

Link

Help me diagnose

Petronas syntium 5w30 malaysia version from paulhew (suspected is replica OEM Grade A oil but not recycle oil)



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Darker picture is on the table

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Petronas syntium 5w30 malaysia version from paulhew (suspected is replica OEM Grade A oil but not recycle oil)



Brighter picture is facing the sunlight

Darker picture is on the table


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Why suspect?

@zeng help me diagnose viva and myvi

@cempedaklife suspect but no proof, its in close spare part circle say

Interesting
i also bought a bottle from paulhew
now waiting to service the car probably this week or next weekends

Hi PoS ,

Sorry for late response .

At 2000 km usage in 2005 Myvi 1.3L , unfortunately this Syntium (3000) 5W30 has some 'structures' which in a way is a bit unusual .

There is absence of darkened centre zone (of about 8-9 mm diameter) which is typical in used oil of low mileage below say , 2000 km .

However, for its usage it is a bit grayish (right side picture) which IMO is harmless for now .

It is a bit strange you have a clearly visible and a bit darkened perimeter ring aka aureole zone which indicates commencement of agglomeration of combustion by-products and contaminants/dirts at such low mileage .

This may indicate the dispersancy/detergency quality/performance of this 2000 km used oil is not really in tip top condition as it should .

The diffusion zone is generally fine and normal except it is a bit grayish for its age .

There is no sign of darkened jagged starburst shape edge outside of diffusion zone indicating normal typical condition of absence of water moisture in this 2000 km used oil .

The outermost zone of halo translucent display indicates relatively (and potentially abnormal) severe fuel dilution issue indicating poor driving habits on the part of drivers and/or relatively poor condition of the engine .

Btw, do you take the above oil sample when cold , like after 5-10 minutes of short driving and/or waited more than half an hour after engine shut down ?

If so, try retake another blotter sample within 10 minutes after engine shutdown AND after a reasonably long distance drive of at least 20 minutes or 20 km highway or smooth traffic . This may help throwing some light on the mechanical condition of your car's fuel delivery or combustion system and its performance .

This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 29 2020, 10:57 AM

Hi,

My above comments on your 2000 km used oil blotter in 2005 Myvi 1.3L more or less applies here .

These 500 km blotters in Viva 660 cc look a bit strange (as it is relatively grayish) although the used engine oil is still in good and serviceable condition IMHO .

This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 29 2020, 10:55 AM

24 hour blotter
Mobil 1 New Life 0W40 (Tesco) MB229.5
Oil Life : 17,335 km
ODO :311,165 km in
Car model: Toyota Avanza 1.3L
Engine: K3VE Multi Port Injection
Added some 100 mL of graphited engine oil in Elf Molygraphite 15W50 .





My Pandamaran workshop is currently under MCO locked down for 2 weeks ..................

Edit:I'm not worried for now and meanwhile keep going on ...........

This post has been edited by zeng: Oct 12 2020, 01:03 PM

Mobil 1 New Life 0W40 (Tesco) MB229.5
Oil Life : 18,031 km
ODO :311,861 km in
Car model: Toyota Avanza 1.3L
Engine: K3VE Multi Port Injection
Added some 100 mL of graphited engine oil in Elf Molygraphite 15W50 .

24 hour blotter :



48 hour blotter :


..... and going ..

That oil looks very dark. How you determine it is still okay?

You are indeed absolutely right in suggesting the oil looks very dark , judging from the wide spread area of grayish dark diffusion zone in relation to all other blotter samples in this thread of 10,000 km and below usage .

Now, why do I feel the oil is still okay ?

First the centre zone of 8 mm ( out of 28 mm minor diameter of right hand side lobe ) has not formed yet . It is not dark black and opaque , I see it as dark gray but still retains some semblance of transparency .

Before the first scenario occurs , the second condition of darkened aureole zone or perimeter ring of diameters between 8 mm and say, 10 mm zone or annulus has not formed at all on the right hand lobe , although it is emerging on the left hand side lobe .

This means agglomeration of excessively high levels of dirt/combustion contaminants has not yet occurred .

Next the annulus between diameters 24 mm and 28 mm is clean and quite clear, transparent and yellowish in colour indicating absence of dirt contaminants within the said annulus .

This means there exist some part of diffusion zone which are free of dirts and ready to absorb more, if and when more of contaminants quantity are introduced into the used oil through further usage .

Hence, my optimism in this 18,031 km blotter .

Having said this , I'm tempted to replace this 18k km oil if not because of the CMCO restrictions on my travel to Pandamaran workshop .

Note:Presence of water moisture as reflected by darkened jagged edge at the outermost zone that promotes corrosion wear does not worry me at the moment with 'spare capacity' to absorb further dirt in the transparent centre zone, aureole zone/perimeter ring and diffusion zone .

Also note there isn't any translucent halo zone beyond outermost zone to indicate fuel dilution phenomenon .

This post has been edited by zeng: Oct 27 2020, 02:25 PM

Hi bro Zeng, pls help to review.

72 hours blotter
Car model: Crv 2.4l
EO: Mobil 1 full synth 5w30 ESP (green)
ODO: 86k
Oil mileage: 7.8k


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Hi Bro ,

This M1 ESP 5W30 is a mid-SaPS oil of rather powerful specs in ACEA C3 MB 229.51, 229.52 ; VW 50400 VW 50700 etc .

In Europe , OEMs' MB and VW recommend this oil for 30,000 km oil change intervals in appropriate MB/VW engines .

There is absence of darkened centre zone in this 7800 km used oil , which is good news .

There is also absence of darkened aureole zone/perimeter ring indicating absence of agglomeration of combustion contanminants and top form detergency and dispersancy performance .

I consider the whole of diffusion zone as lightly contaminated with dirts with huge capacity for further absorbing additional amount of dirts during further usage .

Generally the amount of water moisture present is very mild and on the low side , judging by the not so obvious jagged external edge which is not darkened anyway .

However , there is some slight indication of fuel dilution from the very slight translucent halo annulus external to the outermost zone which is harmless for now .

Overall , this used ESP is fit for further service IMHO beyond 7800 km .

This post has been edited by zeng: Oct 27 2020, 10:15 PM