Lol 2 camps, BITOG no less

Looks good but how about the engine?

Why not? My engine is currently at 26000 km without oil change. Next oil change is in 3000 km.

The intervals in Malaysia are a bit excessive. Then again, better safe than sorry I guess? Maybe I should check my oil before I send the car for service... see how it looks like.

Well the engine is normal ok typically Japanese ..... am very happy with it.
No leaks. No smokes.



Huuh....... intending OCI at 29000 km ??
Yeah, better safe than sorry if in doubt. ....... one really has got to know with confidence what's going on to 'breach' kopitiam talk or pays a price.
Anyway regular oil monitoring helps, more so with Blotter Spot Tests.

if driving not aggresive. can tahan longer than usual oil change mileage.

last time i very poor use cheap mineral oil also go over 10k

Very good. What car btw?
Do you often encounter traffic jams and are you an aggressive driver who likes to rev harder?

Last time my automotive trainer told me
If the engine oil easily change to black colour
The engine oil had better cleaning agent than other engine oil.

Thank you for your valuable comments, folks.

This is a 2007 Toyota Avanza K3VE 1.3L (same as Myvi 1.3L engine).

It has been on minerals Shell 15W40 and 20W50 (SL) for 5000 to 6500 km OCI till around 2010.
From 2010 to 2014 , I switched to better minerals ( ...... I bellieve) in Diesel Engine Oil i.e Petronas Supremo 15W40 CI4/SL/A3B4/MB etc approvals for 6000 to 8500 km OCI.
From 2014 it has been on semi synthetic Quartz 7000 Energy 10W40 till todate.

Driving style ..... I would say it's gentle and smooth gear-change for components protection ...
But morning start never wait for warm up and drive away from stationary within half a minute or so and touching 3000 to 3500 rpm in top gear within say, 1 km travel.
Whenever engine is hot enough, sometimes push to 4500/4700 rpm.
Never drive below 3000 rpm though !
To and fro USJ/KL Sentral about 20-25 minutes or thereabout one way, with short internal travels within Subang Jaya.
Back to Malacca on average 4 to 5 trips in about every 3 months.
Do you consider this as aggressive ? IDK.

Yes, I heard Mobil 1 full synthetic turns dark/black a bit faster as they claim it cleans better than other oils ........ Is that true ?

Hope it helps...

This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 8 2017, 01:10 PM

wow. your oil at 12kkm still look so clean , same like mine at 1kkm.
using same oil like you but at 6kkm the color is almost black .
oci at 6.5kkm. total quartz 7000 semi from tesco. 3rd round already on my saga blm auto.

same color goes to my naza ria using same oil.at 5kkm..

Hard to say as colour hue on dipstick probably is not comparable against colour on Blotter Spots.
I have a feeling your Total could go at least 8000-10000 km no sweat assuming typical history of local oil replacement.
Why not share with us here your Blotter spot test sample.
You need a chromatograhy paper or white coloured name card ...... but I use a letter head ........other people say coarser paper and thinner paper maybe slightly different. IDK.
Mine is a bit coarse type paper and the sample above is about 48 hours after putting the blot, though shorter hours one looks marginally 'better' than this sample.
Refer to my links above in BITOG for some basics if you can.

Edit: My history of oil replacement above would suggest that my sample should be dirtier than others here.
Edit2: This Tesco Quartz Energy 10W40 is fourth round here.

This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 8 2017, 03:05 PM

Just changed my oil last month .
Just snap the oil on both vehicles @1000km
Color almost same..
Top naza ria
Bottom saga blm
Left new (cannot see) above the 500ms mark


Attached thumbnail(s)

Kudos for having taken the first step ....... and it's free and easy ..... keep 'playing' around with Blotter Spot Tests further ...... and along the way , take some 'guessing' out of equation....... enabling quite equal comparison of USA sunkist oranges against Australian sunkist oranges.

You may want to use separate 'paper' of say, A4 size for differrent engine/vehicle/auto transmisssion etc for trending (at a glance without fumbling around with different images while comparing..... ) ....
recording times/km travelled progressively.

Edit: if you are sharing images, may be good to write up oil brand/viscosity grade etc and vehicle brand/model/Turbo/engine or auto transmission etc.

This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 8 2017, 04:19 PM

Hmm maybe I'll give it a try sometime later but I doubt it'll come as clean as yours. Now is already about 9k km so normally I'd change at 10k.

If your targeted OCI is 10k km, then it's best to take Blotter Spot Test sample around 8500-9000 km and/or 9500 km sample with a view of ascertaining whether :
a )You must replace said oil at 10000 km as planned/scheduled if sample shows bad/lousy signs, or
b ) You may have option to extend OCI further if 9000 km sample or 9500 km shows that oil sample still looks nice and promising.

My previous OCI was 11000 km in Aug 2016.
So I took Blotter Spot sample at 10441 km (and at earlier mileage), which I felt OCI could be extended further to either 12000 or 13000 km.
Then at 11700 km and 12200 km , I took another two samples separately (showing far better result than previous Aug 2016 sample of 11000 km ) giving me confidence to possibly push to 13000 km OCI.
Hence my current posting here and on Bitog soliciting for comments .......which you could do the same!

This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 9 2017, 12:54 AM

Where can I get chromatography paper, Sir?

In Malaysia ? Honestly I don't know, mate.
You may have better luck with US online stores like Amazon/Ebay though.
Alternatively business card and coarse texture company correspondence letter head should be easily available.
In times to come, I may try Blotter Spot Tests (BST) on fine texture computer printer paper for comparisons.

Goohtj, do you have 48 hours( or thereabout ) pictures for sharing ?
Appreciate that.

u mean leave the oil sample for 48 hrs?

I mean taking pictures 48 hours or thereabout AFTER depositing the above Blotter Spots of yours ...... as is my picture in post #1.
There is usually minor variations against those taken say, 2 hours after depositing the Blotter BST.

Curious..Did you change the oil filter in between the oil changes? If yes on what mileage?