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Hardware Lenovo Miix 510 Review and AMA, Coz there's no actual thread for it lol

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post Jul 28 2017, 06:08 PM

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BTW, as promised, this is how my standalone HDMI adapter looks like:

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post Jul 28 2017, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 28 2017, 06:08 PM)
BTW, as promised, this is how my standalone HDMI adapter looks like:

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works well? i just placed an order for this:

http://www.lazada.com.my/dodocool-7-in-1-m...c=MVxC&rb=16988

hopefully it works.

by the way, i need an extra charger. where can I get? what type of it?
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post Jul 28 2017, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 27 2017, 03:03 PM)
Unfortunately I don't have a direct VGA adapter either, as I'm primarily using HDMI output. Later I'll take a picture for you if I can find it.

Also, I have one of those Dodocool 7-in-1 Type-C adapters incoming to test (as the multi-adapter I DO have right now is kinda built like crap and I'm entirely not satisfied with it - even if it does work well).

As for the "resolution can't support thing", sounds like a lot of flying BS to me, as Type-C DisplayPort Alternate Mode specs SEEMS to support everything INCLUDING VGA.

That said, the FULL spec for DP Alternate Mode is a load of flying BS on its own. See below:

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Of particular interest is the last part before the diagram: Adapters need to be "active" aka chipped and not just dumb direct adapters/cables.

And how the eff do we know which display adapters are chipped and which are "dumb"? Welcome to the Type-C adapter Wild Wild West, where we actually don't.

So maybe, the direct VGA adapter you have is actually not chipped, when the HDMI one IS.

BTW, the Switch Alpha 12 Type-C is actually a bit different from ours, as it seems to be made NEARLY to Thunderbolt 3 spec (it supports PD when ours don't, so God knows what else it supports even if it's NOT TB3 certified).

And, yes, TB3 supports dumb, unchipped adapters PULAK.

So yeah, the Type-C standard is a total clusterfucuk, I know. So much for "one port to rule them all".
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ahh, i just read your post ... seems you have dodocool the one that i ordered yesterday ... works well right? not sure how long it will reach here .. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jul 28 2017, 07:13 PM)
ahh, i just read your post ... seems you have dodocool the one that i ordered yesterday ... works well right? not sure how long it will reach here .. sad.gif
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Mine was ordered a few hours before I posted that lol. I had the non-HDMI version of the Hootoo Shuttle multi-hub before (sold it off due to not having the HDMI), so I expect the Dodocool to work about the same as that one (only a bit bigger in size).

Later when mine arrives I'll post my impressions here (if yours don't arrive first lol).

As for charger, it's a bit complicated. The Miix uses a non-standard Lenovo charging tip, so even if you see "Lenovo" written on a universal adapter box, it might not be the one for us.

For me, I got myself the Innergie ICE 65 AND THEN contacted Innergie to get the right tip (Tip-"i" to be exact).

You can also ask the staff at a few shops for that particular tip when buying any Energie universal adapters because Innergie actually provides them a box of spare extra adapters (and if you're in luck they should have an extra "i" Tip).

As for specs, our ori one is a 45W adapter so anything 45W+ should work fine (as long as the Voltage/Amperage is within spec, and most Innergie adapters are at least, AFAIK).

Also, you can try contacting Lenovo directly to purchase a spare adapter if you don't want to bother with a universal one. Or you can just punch the adapter model number into eBay and get a spare that way.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 28 2017, 10:20 PM)
Mine was ordered a few hours before I posted that lol. I had the non-HDMI version of the Hootoo Shuttle multi-hub before  (sold it off due to not having the HDMI), so I expect the Dodocool to work about the same as that one (only a bit bigger in size).

Later when mine arrives I'll post my impressions here (if yours don't arrive first lol).

As for charger, it's a bit complicated. The Miix uses a non-standard Lenovo charging tip, so even if you see "Lenovo" written on a universal adapter box, it might not be the one for us.

For me, I got myself the Innergie ICE 65 AND THEN contacted Innergie to get the right tip (Tip-"i" to be exact).

You can also ask the staff at a few shops for that particular tip when buying any Energie universal adapters because Innergie actually provides them a box of spare extra adapters (and if you're in luck they should have an extra "i" Tip).

As for specs, our ori one is a 45W adapter so anything 45W+ should work fine (as long as the Voltage/Amperage is within spec, and most Innergie adapters are at least, AFAIK).

Also, you can try contacting Lenovo directly to purchase a spare adapter if you don't want to bother with a universal one. Or you can just punch the adapter model number into eBay and get a spare that way.
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haha .. i placed almost the same time as yours for dodocool .. haha .. biggrin.gif .. Can't wait connect Miix to 29 monitor!

by the way, Innergie ICE 65 looks nice... how about the size? smaller than original given in the box? free tips program need to pay any postage, etc? Thanks for very helpful in this thread! ..

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jul 28 2017, 11:19 PM)
haha .. i placed almost the same time as yours for dodocool .. haha .. biggrin.gif .. Can't wait connect Miix to 29 monitor!

by the way,  Innergie ICE 65 looks nice... free tips program need to pay any postage, etc? Thanks for very helpful in this thread! ..
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As I was in direct contact with the local Energie rep though the Energie Malaysia FB (rather than through the website), they posted me the tips (I actually asked for a spare lol) for free... Or at least I don't remember having to pay any postage for it.

And yeah, the ICE is nice, especially with a WizardTip to charge other USB stuff with (considering the Miix only really uses 45W out of the 65). Plus, with the tips included you can use it with other laptops too (at least the ones that needs 65W and below). It's small as well, marginally so than the ori adapter (which is pretty compact to begin with - but it's "only" 45w after all).

Get the "International" version for best value, as then you can use it all over the world by just swapping the plug adapters.

You can see more pics and my full thoughts on the ICE on my site if you're interested: https://goo.gl/hDbN9s

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post Jul 30 2017, 12:12 AM

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can someone confirm if gen-7 version has micro SD slot?

some review say got, some say no, so which is which?
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post Aug 3 2017, 05:32 AM

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Thanks for sharing Eiraku.
After going to multiple shops and testing various various usb-c to vga adapters (including ones that looked like yours) , bought this one from All IT. Worked like a charm. Price is reasonable and comes with 1 year warranty.



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Confirmed i7 has MicroSD slot, but I havent test that out. Just got mine i7 last week for RM4380.

Accesories for Miix is rather hard to get in Msia, so I bought all of my accessories from Taobao. Already received my Tempered Glass(free back protection sticker) for RMB48 , and 8 in 1 type c adapter for RMB299, delivery charge is like RMB22 each.

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QUOTE(jow @ Aug 3 2017, 09:18 AM)
Confirmed i7 has MicroSD slot, but I havent test that out. Just got mine i7 last week for RM4380.

Accesories for Miix is rather hard to get in Msia, so I bought all of my accessories from Taobao. Already received my Tempered Glass(free back protection sticker) for RMB48 , and 8 in 1 type c adapter for RMB299, delivery charge is like RMB22 each.
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That's cheap. I got mine for RM4450.
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 3 2017, 08:19 PM)
That's cheap. I got mine for RM4450.
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Hey Bro, your Dodocool arrived yet? Mine is already at my Homebase so I should be able to play-play with it tomorrow (still at Workbase now).
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 3 2017, 08:57 PM)
Hey Bro, your Dodocool arrived yet? Mine is already at my Homebase so I should be able to play-play with it tomorrow (still at Workbase now).
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Really? Mine not yet. Probably tomorrow. Hopefully.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 3 2017, 08:57 PM)
Hey Bro, your Dodocool arrived yet? Mine is already at my Homebase so I should be able to play-play with it tomorrow (still at Workbase now).
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hey bro .. update us on the Dodocool. biggrin.gif .. mine have not arrive yet.. hopefully today given we ordered on the same day. biggrin.gif.
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RMB299 All in One Type C adapter works fine with external monitor. I think taobao a good place to get Miix accessories
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QUOTE(jow @ Aug 4 2017, 10:37 PM)
RMB299 All in One Type C adapter works fine with external monitor. I think taobao a good place to get Miix accessories
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The Dodocool wasn't actually THAT expensive either, it's only RM105 off Lazada. That said, yeah, most Type-C stuff is overpriced in shops, due to it mostly being targeted to Mac folks lol.

Anyway, the semi-metal Dodocool is surprisingly compact for what it is, here it is compared to my (even cheaper, but entirety cheapo plastic) eBay hub.

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And so far it works very well indeed.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 5 2017, 01:14 PM)
The Dodocool wasn't actually THAT expensive either, it's only RM105 off Lazada. That said, yeah, most Type-C stuff is overpriced in shops, due to it mostly being targeted to Mac folks lol.

Anyway, the semi-metal Dodocool is surprisingly compact for what it is, here it is compared to my (even cheaper, but entirety cheapo plastic) eBay hub.

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And so far it works very well indeed.
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bro,
seems we are getting different Dodocool model. mine one is 7in1 which is a bit longer than yours .. i got mine for RM119 .. but there is some issue when connect to external monitor, the external monitor keeps blinking where i tested 2 monitors with different hdmi cable, both the same. aiyaaa!
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by the way, once i change to VGA port, it works fine .. so i think im good using VGA instead of HDMI ..
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cons of Miix 510:

1) some of the type-c to HDMI adapter doesn't work
2) Type-c do not support Power Delivery
3) wrong design of Right Shift key (very annoying)

Why 720 still not in Msia yet, since it has been launched in some other countries
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QUOTE(jow @ Aug 7 2017, 09:29 PM)
cons of Miix 510:

1) some of the type-c to HDMI adapter doesn't work
2) Type-c do not support Power Delivery
3) wrong design of Right Shift key (very annoying)

Why 720 still not in Msia yet, since it has been launched in some other countries
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Switch 5 I think is here already IINM, if you can stand the wonky stand. The power button fingerprint scanner is genius though.

Otherwise it looks like Lenovo Malaysia doesn't really plan to bring the 720 in - as we're like the only folks who got the 510 "refresh" to Kaby Lake. I've searched high and low and seems like the Internets aren't even aware that the 510 was refreshed.

Also, maybe I'm lucky but all my 3 Type-C HDMI adapters have worked fine so far (including the cheapo plastic God knows what in the pic above next to the Dodocool)... funnily enough.

Seng_Kiat That's sad to hear. Any chance you can try with another device to confirm that it's not the hub that's the problem?

Also, any pics of your Dodocool? Is it the one with Ethernet + VGA?

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 7 2017, 11:25 PM)
Switch 5 I think is here already IINM, if you can stand the wonky stand. The power button fingerprint scanner is genius though.

Otherwise it looks like Lenovo Malaysia doesn't really plan to bring the 720 in - as we're like the only folks who got the 510 "refresh" to Kaby Lake. I've searched high and low and seems like the Internets aren't even aware that the 510 was refreshed.

Also, maybe I'm lucky but all my 3 Type-C HDMI adapters have worked fine so far (including the cheapo plastic God knows what in the pic above next to the Dodocool)... funnily enough.

Seng_Kiat That's sad to hear. Any chance you can try with another device to confirm that it's not the hub that's the problem?

Also, any pics of your Dodocool? Is it the one with Ethernet + VGA?
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yeah that's kinda sad but luckily it works fine with VGA. I guess it is just the same. no different in terms of video and i am not transmit any audio. Am I correct. I have no other device currently that has usb type C to test.

yes, my dodocool with ethernet and VGA but no memory reader. i dont know either it not support the hdmi or my usb c port has problem. what do you think?

i am thinking to buy cable, 1 side is hdmi and another end is type C. i saw it is available but seems no different than my current setup with dodocool with VGA.

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