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 T8 Fluorescent LED Tube Light replacement, Retrofitting LED tube to existing casing

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post Dec 28 2017, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(mot88 @ Dec 28 2017, 09:02 PM)
The new 20w Brightboost T8 Led is available on lazada. It is priced RM80 for 5 pc (RM17/pc) which is lower than Philips recommended price of RM 17.50/ pc.
This 20w version output is 2100lm compared to 16w of only 1600lm. It also comes with LED starter or EMP. Avoid the 16w as it is dimmer than standard fluorescent.

Lazada T8 20w Philips T8
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Thanks. I found the same seller before but due to its location (not in Klang Valley) I'm hesitant to pull the trigger as shipping something so fragile from another state might be too risky. Too bad the new 20w is yet to be sold by Philips official seller on Lazada. I just bought a bunch of 16w ones but didn't know it's not that bright but will probably place it at areas where it's not necessary to be that bright biggrin.gif
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post Dec 28 2017, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(mot88 @ Dec 28 2017, 09:02 PM)
The new 20w Brightboost T8 Led is available on lazada. It is priced RM80 for 5 pc (RM17/pc) which is lower than Philips recommended price of RM 17.50/ pc.
This 20w version output is 2100lm compared to 16w of only 1600lm. It also comes with LED starter or EMP. Avoid the 16w as it is dimmer than standard fluorescent.

Lazada T8 20w Philips T8
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if current already using T8 LED tube ...so this Philip can directly plug and light up ?

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post Dec 28 2017, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Dec 28 2017, 10:29 PM)
if current already using T8 LED tube ...so this Philip can directly plug and light up ?

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Yes, plug & play if you are currently using Type B T8 led (refer to my 1st post of what is Type B).

Yes, plug and play also if you have maintain the wiring of previous Fluro tube with magnetic ballast.

However, you need to modify the wiring in the bracket if both above scenarios do not apply to you.

Mind sharing what T8 led tube you are using now?



QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Dec 28 2017, 09:45 PM)
Thanks. I found the same seller before but due to its location (not in Klang Valley) I'm hesitant to pull the trigger as shipping something so fragile from another state might be too risky. Too bad the new 20w is yet to be sold by Philips official seller on Lazada. I just bought a bunch of 16w ones but didn't know it's not that bright but will probably place it at areas where it's not necessary to be that bright  biggrin.gif
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There is an authorised Philips lighting store whom you could contact if you need it in Klang Valley. The shop is at Kuchai Lama. If you need the contact,do PM me. You could order if they don't carry it. For Philips Lighting HQ in PJ, they usually don't keep a lot of stock and hot item such as this, usually will be out of stock

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post Dec 29 2017, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(mot88 @ Dec 28 2017, 11:43 PM)
Yes, plug & play if you are currently using Type B T8 led (refer to my 1st post of what is Type B).

Yes, plug and play also if you have maintain the wiring of previous Fluro tube with magnetic ballast.

However, you need to modify the wiring in the bracket if both above scenarios do not apply to you.

Mind sharing what T8 led tube you are using now?
There is an authorised Philips lighting store whom you could contact if you need it in Klang Valley. The shop is at Kuchai Lama. If you need the contact,do PM me. You could order if they don't carry it. For Philips Lighting HQ in PJ, they usually don't keep a lot of stock and hot item such as this, usually will be out of stock
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IM using China no brand T8 LED tube daylight now ..not sure how many lm
the cover was plastic ...as Attached the light ...like not bright enough..

so its worth to buy the Philip 20w T8 tube ?
can be brightness than my current tube ?

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post Dec 29 2017, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Dec 29 2017, 01:17 PM)
IM using China no brand T8 LED tube daylight now ..not sure how many lm
the cover was plastic ...as Attached the light ...like not bright enough..

so its worth to buy the Philip 20w T8 tube ?
can be brightness than my current tube ?

thanks
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Plastic T8 cover is earlier generation led. Now, most if not all T8 is sold in glass tube. Since you are not sure brand and the wattage led, hard to advice.

China T8 led is usually Type A. If your lamp holder does not has a hole to put in starter or the wiring has been disconnected from the starter hole, you need to open and modify the wiring, i.e not plug & play for Philips T8 led.

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post Dec 29 2017, 08:25 PM

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Just plugged in, seems quite bright to me or at least bright enough biggrin.gif
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post Dec 29 2017, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(mot88 @ Dec 29 2017, 08:08 PM)
Plastic T8 cover is earlier generation led. Now, most if not all T8 is sold  in glass tube. Since you are not sure brand and the wattage led, hard to advice.

China T8 led is usually Type A. If your lamp holder does not has a hole to put in starter or the wiring has been disconnected from the starter hole, you need to open and modify the wiring, i.e not plug & play for Philips T8 led.
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my LED tube is 18w ...fixed into slim casing ...no have the starter hole...

i think the connection like below ..wiring installed by wire man
1 side to supply Live (L) and the other side Neutral (N) to power the led tube.


so the Philip T8 20w lm2100 worth to buy with that price ?
purpose to add light ..caused current not so bright and light ..

how to modify my current T8 LED tube wiring to install Philip 20w LED tube using the same slim casing ??

thanks ...

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Dec 29 2017, 08:25 PM)
Just plugged in, seems quite bright to me or at least bright enough biggrin.gif
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can shop the light photo ?

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post Dec 29 2017, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Dec 29 2017, 08:31 PM)
can shop the light photo ?

thanks ..
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quick question. do i need to peel off the sticker at the end of the tube that says where the head should be?

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post Dec 29 2017, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Dec 29 2017, 08:51 PM)
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yeah ..i plan to install like yours at outside house ..2tubes side by side ..

yes ..it look more bright than my current one ...

yours is 16w or 20w?

the lazada one selling 20w ...trusted ? seller not from official Philip..

thanks ....

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Dec 29 2017, 09:00 PM)
yeah ..i plan to install like yours at outside house ..2tubes side by side ..

yes ..it look more bright than my current one ...

yours is 16w or 20w?

the lazada one selling 20w ...trusted ? seller not from official Philip..

thanks ....
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16w

i bought from official philips merchant on lazada. i saw the one selling 20w but didn’t want to take the risk because the seller is not from klang valley so i’m afraid it will be damaged during the long distance delivery.
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post Dec 29 2017, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Dec 29 2017, 09:05 PM)
16w

i bought from official philips merchant on lazada. i saw the one selling 20w but didn’t want to take the risk because the seller is not from klang valley so i’m afraid it will be damaged during the long distance delivery.
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16w so bright...

lazada wrap nicely and safely when courier to you ?
are they using hard cover ?
how many tube you bought in 1time ?

i worried damage too during delivery ...
but think will get a try order from lazada

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post Dec 29 2017, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Dec 29 2017, 09:13 PM)
16w so bright...

lazada wrap nicely and safely when courier to you ?
are they using hard cover ?
how many tube you bought in 1time ?

i worried damage too during delivery ...
but think will get a try order from lazada

thanks ...
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wrapped in a double layer of bubble wrap. outside covered with another layer of black plastic. good enough and did the job. i ordered two times. first order is for 2x 1200mm one.

second order 2x 1200mm and 2x 600mm. both safe and sound haha
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Dec 29 2017, 09:21 PM)
wrapped in a double layer of bubble wrap. outside covered with another layer of black plastic. good enough and did the job. i ordered two times. first order is for 2x 1200mm one.

second order 2x 1200mm and 2x 600mm. both safe and sound haha
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great...

so when order 3rd time for 20w?😊

waiting for @mot88 to reply ....after that will proceed order ..

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Dec 29 2017, 09:25 PM)
great...

so when order 3rd time for 20w?😊

waiting for @mot88 to reply ....after that will proceed order ..

thanks ...
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not in a hurry to get 20w. will wait until next year when the official philips have stock on lazada.
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post Dec 29 2017, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Dec 29 2017, 09:48 PM)
not in a hurry to get 20w. will wait until next year when the official philips have stock on lazada.
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current lazada 20w seller can be trusted ?selling original Philip T8 LED tube ?

actually the wrapping by the seller itself or by lazada ?

thanks ...
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Dec 29 2017, 09:58 PM)
current lazada 20w seller can be trusted ?selling original Philip T8 LED tube ?

actually the wrapping by the seller itself or by lazada ?

thanks ...
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duno lor. never bought from the seller before.

for mine, wrapping should be done by philips warehouse.
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post Dec 29 2017, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Dec 29 2017, 10:04 PM)
duno lor. never bought from the seller before.

for mine, wrapping should be done by philips warehouse.
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alright...i try order see how ...

but found other web site selling more cheap ...

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Dec 29 2017, 10:24 PM)
alright...i try order see how ...

but found other web site selling more cheap ...

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That's the shop in Kuchai Lama that I was referring to in one of my earlier post. Comparing your China 18w T8 tube, this Philips 20w will be brighter but don't expect a lot, roughly 20 -30% but still better and close to normal fluorescent tube.

I doubt with your current wiring setup, the Philips LED tube will light up as both Live & Neutral need on 1 side of the holder but your current wiring is L&N on each side separately. Alternatively, you could go for a local brand of T8 LED with 22w of 2000 lumens. Price is much less than Philips and quality close to it.

To modify, one side of the holder need to have both wires coming out and connect to 'L' and "N' from your electrical source and the other holder side leave it as dummy (wire not connected) .

If your holder only have 1 wire coming out and another wire no where to be seen, you may need to buy 1 holder with both wiring coming out from lighting / electrical shop which is usually very cheap.

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Here is the T5 brightness comparison

http://www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/nlpip/ligh...s/lat5/pc1a.asp

Reliability, i still give the normal T5, LED just don't last long for the driver.

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