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post Jan 12 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(remy_tailo @ Jan 12 2017, 12:40 AM)
UNIFI can downgrade back to Streamyx back?im IT person..remote/VPN/high speed internet is part of my life  biggrin.gif    -->use your time to uber/grab instead of watching internet. streamyx not cheap also. dont bother. ..is not that i don't want to..but since i were working in IT Banking sector..weekend also need to standby..else any issue on transaction, people wont able to withdraw their money (i'm back-end coder)

DIGI = good suggestion..will do it  -->change to umobile. free 1gb each month. sufficient for basic use at rm30 with 214minutes of calls.
was using UMOBILE..but coverage not good since i staying at beranang..

TNB+SYABAS = can't help..baby need to have aircond else wont comfortable..fan wont help..outisde have bad weather.    -->move everyone to one room. set room temp to 27. this should lower at least rm50.
done..current 2 months able to reduce RM30-RM50

KIDS / KINDERGARDEN FOR 2 RM1,000 = its the cheapest since it cost for 2..one of it infant..market now is RM500
-->kindergarden is not compulsory. if wife not working, ask wife to teach. if die die must go, send only at final year.

wife working..if not why i should sent to kindergarten? parents? passed away already.

COWAY = will do .thanks
-->check out where they dont have service and claim you are moving there. check how much to break contract.
you will ask..why wife not helping? bcoz she had 2personal loan, 1 car loan, 2 credit card and 1 housing loan
why we got a lot of personal loan? to survive..given a best food,education,cloths all for kids and wife since we doing all at own (relatives too busy with their own business)

why too much? this loan since 2010 untill now.
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Stop being delusional.

YOU CANT AFFORD TO GIVE YOUR FAMILY THE BEST LIFE.

The way your life is heading, you're not giving your family a good life, you're giving them mountains and mountains of debt.

Go to AKPK and stop living in luxury.
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(chosenlc @ Jan 12 2017, 10:19 AM)
what make u so high debt? mind to share?
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surviving bro..
when u married..and you dont want to susahkan your parents..you move out to find new house.
when ur wife pregnant..need parents (esp her mom) but she passed away 1mon before..need to cash/hire confirment lady
when ur wife pregnant 2nd time (after 2yrs gap)..then urself been fired from job..and jobless for 3 months..monthly paymnet car etc?credit card
keep continuing.

nowdays relatives mind their own business..if do help,, they will keep repeating and told whole world about their helpling..indebt etc
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:24 AM

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if possible, dont go into bankruptcy. it affects your future everything including job and opportunities.



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post Jan 12 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Jan 12 2017, 10:24 AM)
if possible, dont go into bankruptcy. it affects your future everything including job and opportunities.
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its true..akpk is last resort..now finding some way to solve all above
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:28 AM

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Holy F I cringed hard upon reading your post.

Just here wishing you a good luck notworthy.gif
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(giorno9 @ Jan 12 2017, 12:43 AM)
Go AKPK and surrender yourself...

Then, AKPK will total up all loans (except housing and car loan if not mistaken)... give you minimum interest and up to 10 years return period....

However... for those 10 years, cannot create anymore loan/debt. Your name will be quarantine....so, can purchase house, new car, cannot use credit cards...

It helps.. trust me...
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ady meet them
but my case quite difficult.

BRRK-i islamic ..since it islamic loan, BRRK will not cooperate with AKPK..worst case the monthly will be increase more than i didint do AKPK
MBSB ..same case..monthyl will be up..or dragged more years..25 yrs currently is quite long

after roughly calculated by the akpk, the amount monthly need to pay is RM3600 including c.cards for tenure 10yrs (before AKPK RM3500 without credit card)

only the concern is akpk for 10yrs rm3600..non-akpk is rm3500 but without credit card and no tenure
both way didnt solve ahlong issue

This post has been edited by remy_tailo: Jan 12 2017, 10:30 AM
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(remy_tailo @ Jan 12 2017, 10:23 AM)
surviving bro..
when u married..and you dont want to susahkan your parents..you move out to find new house.
when ur wife pregnant..need parents (esp her mom) but she passed away 1mon before..need to cash/hire confirment lady
when ur wife pregnant 2nd time (after 2yrs gap)..then urself been fired from job..and jobless for 3 months..monthly paymnet car etc?credit card
keep continuing.

nowdays relatives mind their own business..if do help,, they will keep repeating and told whole world about their helpling..indebt etc
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I seriously think this is not the case bro. I am married too, so I understand all your problems.

But seriously, for a guy who works at banking sector, you suck so much at planning your finance. I mean, just look at your car, I can deduce you are the type of person that doesnt want to drive Malaysian car, am I right?

You should have a planning, and think for long term. You should also have saving in case anything (like you mentioned) happens. I know it is easier said than done, but hey, you dont want to keep going down this road.

My serious advise:

1) just go to AKPK. I doubt any financial institutions could help you now.
2) Seriously downgrade your life. And start saving. Just because you earn 8k, you dont have to live like you earn 8k! Learn to live like you just started working, for example? And your wife must support you in this. By support I mean she must be willing to downgrade her lifestyle too.
3) Find a financial planner who could help you to plan your finance. Search someone like Alwi Adam or Afyan Rawi on FB.


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post Jan 12 2017, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(remy_tailo @ Jan 12 2017, 10:28 AM)
ady meet them
but my case quite difficult.

BRRK-i islamic ..since it islamic loan, BRRK will not cooperate with AKPK..worst case the monthly will be increase more than i didint do AKPK
MBSB ..same case..monthyl will be up..or dragged more years..25 yrs currently is quite long

after roughly calculated by the akpk, the amount monthly need to pay is RM3600 including c.cards for tenure 10yrs (before AKPK RM3500 without credit card)

only the concern is akpk for 10yrs rm3600..non-akpk is rm3500 but without credit card and no tenure
both way didnt solve ahlong issue
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steps:
1. cut expenses
2. increase income, do part time earn usd
3. setel the along in full. never drag
4. setel the brrk since thats the lowest one
5. proceed with the next highest interest rate item.


dont skimp on payments to
house, car and insurance.

dont sell house unless really no choice. once u sell you wont be able to buy back at the same price. and i doubt bank will allow refinance since ur credit already calar

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post Jan 12 2017, 11:40 AM

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Seriously this a lifestyle problem.
Even if you can earn an extra few k a month will be pointless without changing your spending habit.

On the 2nd child part, why go for it if you are already struggling with a first child. Borrowed loan for hospital fees, confinement lady? its already a RED warning bro.
Condom is way cheaper in this case wouldn't you agree?
Its your CHOICE and now you need to HANDLE it.

My message are intended to those reading this post and yet to fall into these debt traps.
If no money/saving - go for condom.
if no money/saving - go for gomen hospital.
if no money/saving - no confinement lady or whatever. its an over-hyped and over-price luxury anyway.

I wish you all the best!

EDITED:
Sorry if in anyway i offended you.
Not adding any advice as the previous posting by fellow lyn already good and sufficient.

This post has been edited by Tokok_King: Jan 12 2017, 02:00 PM
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(remy_tailo @ Jan 12 2017, 10:16 AM)
QUOTE(remy_tailo @ Jan 12 2017, 12:40 AM)

why we got a lot of personal loan? to survive..given a best food,education,cloths all for kids and wife since we doing all at own (relatives too busy with their own business)

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bangwall.gif You should only take loan for car/house/business/tertiary education/life death situation.... full stop

Going forward, the hard part is not how you are going to pay your loan but how you are stop your high lifestyle addiction
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:20 PM

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My first advise wud be change ur lifestyle. Kids kindergarten just send to gomen kindergartenm

Phone line use umobile cheap2 wan enuf, or webe

Unifi terminate terus. Tether mobile data enuf

Coway can terminate. Just buy philips filter at senheng sufficient for drinking water


Settle your ah long first

Followed by PL

Cc can settle last

Wat the hell u spending on man loan till that much. Ita lifestyle bro.. Lifeatyle

Change it or things will repeat again


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post Jan 12 2017, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(remy_tailo @ Jan 12 2017, 10:23 AM)
surviving bro..
when u married..and you dont want to susahkan your parents..you move out to find new house.
when ur wife pregnant..need parents (esp her mom) but she passed away 1mon before..need to cash/hire confirment lady
when ur wife pregnant 2nd time (after 2yrs gap)..then urself been fired from job..and jobless for 3 months..monthly paymnet car etc?credit card
keep continuing.

nowdays relatives mind their own business..if do help,, they will keep repeating and told whole world about their helpling..indebt etc
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i got to say i am strongly disagree with your kind of mindset, relatives do help relatives, but when you can't even manage to help yourself how you expect relative to help you? Refer to my post and you can see i am a very good example of by helping a relative of mine, what do i get in return? Serious damage to my own CCRIS by helping people? This is why good people become lesser with your kind of mindset and lifestyle

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4172620
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:28 PM

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Bro, my 1st advice to you would be to settle what ever outstanding you have with Ah Long. Trust me, these guys are ruthless and for your families safety and yours, pls clear that off.

Then head over to AKPK immediately to restructure your debt.

Your debt seems to be pilling up and its a matter of time that things get messed up. not scaring you or anything but pls get things sorted out asap
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post Jan 12 2017, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Tokok_King @ Jan 12 2017, 11:40 AM)
Seriously this a lifestyle problem.
Even if you can earn an extra few k a month will be pointless without changing your spending habit.

On the 2nd child part, why go for it if you are already struggling with a first child. Borrowed loan for hospital fees, confinement lady? its already a RED warning bro.
Condom is way cheaper in this case wouldn't you agree?
Its your CHOICE and now you need to HANDLE it.

My message are intended to those reading this post and yet to fall into these debt traps.
If no money/saving - go for condom.
if no money/saving - go for gomen hospital.
if no money/saving - no confinement lady or whatever. its an over-hyped and over-price luxury anyway.

I wish you all the best!

EDITED:
Sorry if in anyway i offended you.
Not adding any advice as the previous posting by fellow lyn already good and sufficient.
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Exactly this speaks out the very true root of cause of high debt with TS...worst part is, one still giving excuses and refuse to face the facts that things are actually having much serious effects to the future of family + kids probably in decades to come...this is nothing more than a total epic failure in personal finance management.. shakehead.gif

Change your lifestyle, LIVE FRUGALLY. That's the only advice i can give.

All those lifestyle patterns and unnecessary expenditure are just commercial marketing strategies that want you to spend more, stop the addiction and dreaming!

Dun want to get too harsh, just hope that you'll wk up and realize the core problem lies in you urself..

Good luck.
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post Jan 12 2017, 03:08 PM

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bro, you really have to face up reality. Even with kids there are certain things that you can cut. Not a silver bullet but some things you can do:

1. Home cook food. Don't go for fancy restaurants.
2. Stay at home during weekends. You have high speed connection, make use of it to entertain yourself. Play with kids.
3. Cut spending on kids. Look for pre-loved stuffs. Not everything has to be brand new.
4. Take public transportation. Stay at home more often.
5. Reduce usage of aircond. Too much will be a problem for your kids as well.
6. If die die need to eat out, choose cheaper alternatives like mixed rice.
7. Got nice car, go drive uber or Grab.
8. You're an IT guy, go and contract some part time jobs (eg. develop websites)
9. Talk to company HR see if they offer financial assistance
10. Withdraw from EPF - AKPK can help with this i think.

You will know what you spent on the most. Look at your cc statement or download app to track your spending. Cut them or reduce them gradually.

Clear off the ah long debt. what were you thinking? You have family and kids ler. Don't think it is wise to drag them into the dirt with you.

This post has been edited by 3antz: Jan 12 2017, 03:10 PM
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post Jan 12 2017, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(remy_tailo @ Jan 12 2017, 12:15 AM)
hi all,

please help me manage on my below 9 product/facilities DEBT.
format ( current outstanding/total loan |  Year started loan | tenure | monthly payment )

CAR LOAN (HP)
HLB RM45,XXX / RM69,100 | 2012 | 9YRS| RM784

PERSONAL LOAN
BRRK-I RM103,XXX / RM110,000 | 2015 | 10YRS | RM1538
MBSB-I RM76,XXX / RM80,000 | 2013 | 25YRS | RM533
HLB-I RM30,XXX / RM30,000 | 2016 | 5YRS | RM715
CREDIT CARD (current outstanding / total limit | 5%)
MBB RM12,888 / RM12,000 | RM6XX
BRRK RM2,100 / RM3,300 | RM15X
RHB RM5,800 / RM7,000 | RM30X
HSBC RM6900 / RM8,000 | RM35X
AEON RM11,000 / RM12,000 | RM55X

AH LONG @ LICENSE MONEY LENDER
RM12,000 CASH OR RM3,200 FOR 6 MONTH
TOTAL = RM331,000 (exclude AHLONG)
SALARY = RM8,000 (AFTER DEDUCTION IS RM6,500 NETT)
other commitment
UNIFI RM179 + GST
DIGI RM180-RM200 (POSTPAID)
TNB+SYABAS RM150-200
AIA INSURANCE FOR FAMILY RM200
KIDS / KINDERGARDEN FOR 2 RM1,000
COWAY RM1XX

non-fixed
VEHICLE SERVICE RM100-RM150
TOUCH AND GO RM100-RM200
summarize;

BANK COMMITMENT
LOAN RM2788
HP RM784
AHLONG RM3,200
C.CARD RM2,000

FAMILY COMMITMENT / TO SURVIVE
RM2,500 (all above)

exclude toll, petrol food etc
The CHALLENGE is to reduce total product/facility going to AKPK as much as possible.
current self-approach (call banker 1 by 1)
1. MBB CREDIT CARD = willing to convert to fix term..4.95% pa.3yrs..monthly rm306 BUT need to reduce/cash paid limit below 80% (RM9,600 ) then able to convert
2. HSBC CREDIT CARD = 9-12% up to 5yrs but will approval/checking records
3. AEON CREDIT CARD = manager will call back since the facility (convert credit card to fix term) already been terminated recently (2016)
4. RHB CREDIT CARD = NO as stated by call operator
5. BRRK CREDIT CARD = no need , outstanding 2k can settle (after i cash out others credit.card available..perhaps?)
6. BRRK PERSONAL LOAN = need to meet manager at branch (will do)
7. HLB HP & HLB-I PERSONAL LOAN = call no answer, need to go branch
8. MBSB PERSONAL LOAN = call no answer, will re-try
really appreciate if someone in LYN forum able to offer some OUTSIDE 1 big loan to cover all above loan
(10-20 yrs tenure)
plan to get OUTSIDE/NON bank loan , settle all debt , get low/clear commitment as per CCRISS report, buy a house using bank loan, after 5 years refinance house, pay lump sump outside loan  :thumbsup:

FYI, this month-end i will go for AKPK. Already met then before (but not registered yet) .
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Your only hopes is AKPK or declare yourself bankruptcy.
Unless you Kena lottery.

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post Jan 12 2017, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Jan 12 2017, 10:37 AM)
steps:
1. cut expenses
2. increase income, do part time earn usd
3. setel the along in full. never drag
4. setel the brrk since thats the lowest one
5. proceed with the next highest interest rate item.
dont skimp on payments to
house, car and insurance.

dont sell house unless really no choice. once u sell you wont be able to buy back at the same price. and i doubt bank will allow refinance since ur credit already calar
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- downgrade lifestyle, like very2 downgrade as same person who got salary with 2-3k permonth.
- if own that house, and if the rental much higher than monthly loan, rent it and move to other cheaper rental house, even a flat would do. if it would save u few hundred per month, would be better
- sell the car and buy cheaper car. but might be problem to buy it again since ur credit score rosak edy. unless u buy with cash, cheap and old proton car. ( wira, waja etc)
- if dont want sell car, do uber/grab car at night and weekend.
- cook at home, bring lunch to office. stopping drinking expensive things, plain water should do.
- find anything in ur house that u dont need it, sell it. even ur furniture etc
- aircond, normally want i do to save, is to set at 29-27c, then turn on fan, this will make u feel chill since the air keep moving.. and limit the usage around 6hours per day. so far my bill around 50-70 per month with 6hours daily usage of aircond,
- phone bill, even i also using rm60 just for prepaid including data quota. seeing u as IT guys, i think ur company should able to do telephone/internet claim allowance ? since i also IT guys, and i can get phone/internet allowance.
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post Jan 12 2017, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 12 2017, 10:14 AM)
Then better go apply another 500k and bankrupt?
300k also bankrupt, 800k also bankrupt.. Might as well bankrupt with some cash lo

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In fact it is.

A few years ago I have a customer which my company supplied goods to him. Over a few months, he ordered more from us compared to previous months. Then overnight we hear his shop is taken over by another person. He was a very good paymaster before this happened. Almost all suppliers kena trapped by him. Eventually we heard he owed banks about 2m. And became a bankrupt.

1 year later, my salesman met him at a coffee shop. What you said above is what he told my salesman biggrin.gif

He planned his bankruptcy. I think he was the winner in this legal and banking system which he took advantage of the loophole
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post Jan 12 2017, 04:17 PM

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This is too much bro, stop telling your brain that you're wealthy enough to endure and pay all loan.
Go get apk for restructuring, obviously you are covering loan with loan, this won't solve your problem.

settle with loan shark first and downgrade other commitment, accept the fact that you're fail, no need to send kids to expensive kindergarten

wish you will not losing your job.. best of luck

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post Jan 12 2017, 04:34 PM

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I see. Nevertheless, I hope you find a way to get yourself out of the ah long situation. It's the only thing AKPK will not help with.

All the best!

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