The only problem with government hospitals the process to detect the cancer is slow.

If you don't have much money, my suggestion is go to Private Hospital first to check whether it's cancer or not.

If it's cancer go get the first chemo at the private hospital and transfer to government hospital.

title is : CANCER TREATMENT

Do you sure you wait there? Seriously?

Imagine you have cancer, you walk in there and wait the hospital to assign doctor for you?

Usually cancer cases, doctor consultation assign by appointment , they give you DATE and TIME. You don't just go in there and wait.

If it is your first time, then you will call up and make appointment with the particular doctor that you prefer, you can search and browse their expertise before you select them.

if you are only sick (fever), of course go where also need to wait lar...aiyo

If got the money/insurance, of course la private

my uncle has metastatic colon cancer, currently in a govt hospital in Selangor.

I really pity him on the inconveniences he's had to go through in the whole time of him being there since he was first diagnosed a couple of years ago.

Keeps getting turfed around, operating theatre always full and not enough doctors available (specialists)

heck, he's at a very urgent stage now for a CT scan, the earlier the better, been trying to get him to CT scan since Monday, hospital say no slot, need to wait until Friday (hopefully no more further delays after that)

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Like all illnesses, not just cancers, msians are very lucky as you will get treatment no matter if you got money or not... Unlike some neighbours, you die if no money...

Having said that, everybody knows the pros and cons of both the public and private healthcare system...And since the main difference is money, therefore decided based on your financial means....

The worst is families selling their assets and going into debt to pay for treatments they cannot afford....When they can get similar care free in gov hospitals....

Learn to differentiate between the EFFECT and COMFORT of care....Money often have no impact on the former...

as you know, gov hosp will prioritize gov servant. the higher the grade, the higher priority they will get in the queue.

my sister gred is 50++, yet she still have to go to private because of the queue. lucky for her, since she's high ranking official all expenses at private are claimable giving the reason gov hosp can't cater for treatment.

imagine if you gred is in the 40s or in kumpulan C or B, or you are just factory worker.

that is not true....

however, like all things msians, if you know people, you can find jalan....nothing to do with your grade....

private definitely. It's not the illness that kills in public hosp, it's the waiting games that kill. But this statement is only true if you're insured or you're really wealthy.

my dad is undergoing treatment for leukemia at private hosp and until today, cost has come up to about 100k +-. But thank god he's insured. Though there's still waiting games at private hosp, it's much more bearable compared to gov hosp IMO.

And yes, service. Private hospital is able to provide you with comfort. it certainly helps in the patient's morale aspect.


But it's a shame really, where private hospitals in malaysia only cater to middle - high income citizens. Gov should make insurance policies more affordable for lower income people.

This post has been edited by Johannlo: Jan 13 2017, 01:52 AM

Depends as there are 3 types of hospitals in msia, each with their pros and cons

Private, Government, Semi Gov

Private:

Pros:-
1. Fast, in 1-2 weeks get dy
2. Service
3. Very good at "common" bread and butter cases.

Cons:
1. Expensive, a mid range op can hit 20k , major ones heh
2. Not very good at "uncommon" non-bread and butter cases
3. Private dirty habits, make you stay longer to earn more monies.

Government

Pros:-

1. Cheap, probably the cheapest healthcare in the world
2. Doctors can escalate depending on need, say they open you up and found something another doctor is good at, they can call out for help and get that specialist to come in.
3. non-bread and butter cases, hence the term "experiment". these cases private wont touch coz too hard, too rare, too whatever.

cons:-

1. doctor choice is like them lucky draw, OT day can be anyone of the large doctor team they have
2. LOOOOONG wait (not all)
3. Basic treatment, you go in, their goal is to get you up and running asap, how good u feel with the service is no fuck given.


Semi Government

Pros:

1. Fast , 2 week wait and cheaper at 50% lower than market rate
2. Doctors are often senior government practitioners who are as good as outside
3. Basically any positive government thing la,

Cons:

1. Appts are always after working hours
2. Its still a government hospital, so no hotel class service


Basically its not to say one is better than the other, they are all good for their own things, i go government for some stuff and get treated faster than private but not for cancer la. so erm ya

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ok let me smoke some weed first. ok here goes...

Do you even consider Public Hospital as Hospital in the first place??
Im a very demanding person and when i heard people said Malaysia Public Hospital is World Class and Cheapest in the world, ok i agree that it's the biggest white mouse lab for human but to call it a hospital?? not yet.

The only hospital i think is world class standard is Prince Court hospital.

Please do not go to Public Hospital for early diagnostic and treatment if you have cancer. two of my dearest relatives had died of cancer because of the fault of public hospital doctors. They think they were smart but they were the cause of the indecisive decision and one of them actually make it even worst . first injection cost rm 9K , goes well, second injection, the whole leg swell and quickly transfer to private hospital. But a bit too late also lah. he's a public servant and he thought he is in the WORLD CLASS PUBLIC HOSPITAL . there you go.. World Class and affordable.

ok, ok.. u guys always boast about Public hospitals have the best Equipment. In my early days working with american co, I have visited some of the Public sectors and i do agree the govt always have the best equipments as compare to other countries. I still remember when i visited a factory with world class tyre making equipment cost probably about 30 millions abandoned at the premises. My manager and i were shocked when one of their supervisors told us that it's a white elephant there. We asked why , he told us that not many of his staffs are capable to proceed because they lack the training and there's no one able to do it. Moral of the story, u can have the best equipment but you don't have good training or even if u have someone provides training but your learning culture like shit ( doesn't take notes, poor listening, irregular practice etc) all these will have no effect at all. you know what i mean?

And one of my friends wife also a public servant , went to the hospital and get cured for breast cancer. Everybody must have thought it's a good work by the public hospital. She died 5 yrs later. Why?

1) doctor in public don't stay there for long. they always changed or transfer. sometimes you have another doctors attend to you without knowing your circumstances fr beginning.
2) they don't have a sense of emergency, they will not have courtesy to call you to do check up , so forget about someone like american doctors sent you reminder every year to do check up.

a bit too long already. cut it short, beware of some of the private hospital as well. now there are many of them from public hospital . they were hired because of their experience and exposure. honestly , they are good but at the same time they also may provide false decision and working habits or work culture is still inhabited in them .

So if you ask me what and how Malaysia can be a great hospital again. No apprentice should be in public hospitals . This is human lives we are talking about , not some guinea pig. u want to study , go India and deal with dead corpse and africa for medicine studies.
public hospital must be clear of all these first hurdle. then only i call it a true hospital like in grey anatomy.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Jan 14 2017, 09:25 PM

cancer is a very long battle... initial treatment and diagnosis i will say go private.. but subsequent once stable follow up in Goverment Hospital... go for the slightly famous government/semi private hospitals.

There are 3 aspects of healthcare that we all want....

We want it good quality...
We want it fast
And we want it cheap...

No country in the would can give all 3 to you. At best you can have 2....Most times you have 1.... Sometimes you have non....

Choose which you want....

i have visited many good and worst hospitals in overseas before. if u read my last statement in between the line, i think it's not that bad in malaysia but the point is that there's lack of emotional parts and psychological parts in the malaysian doctors and nursing, the whole eco system and how they use database for treatment to work from pre to post treatment. you ought to understand this, are they prepare to serve the patient ? are the docs doing it for their living or to save people? and what's the point of having world class equipment if the people are not good at it and what about post treatment, follow ups etc. Of course at some point they are still better than some third world countries but we are not going to that stories isn't it. Well to accept the fact that we are lucky here than more mortality rate will be jeopardize here.

If you live in malaysia long enough, im not sure if you are a malaysia, most malaysian had probably change more hospitals than ever from one to another. jumping from public to private and vice versa. if you think this is good , im not sure what to say more. What good FORTUNE. if outpatient treatment you are talking about, many have died lah due to cancer treatment

Visiting other peoples country doesn't mean that you learn something already , don't tell me you don't have relatives or siblings residing overseas who experience any trauma before telling you some good and bad stories?

This post has been edited by hackwire: Jan 15 2017, 08:27 AM

are you implying that these people die of cancers due to negligence?....if so, please go sue the doctors...

and therein lies the problem with uninformed and uneducated public opinion....people view any bad outcome as "negligence"....

the fact is, we are talking about cancers, and anywhere in the world, people die of cancers...even with the "best" and most expensive care....steve job, for all his wealth, died...and intrinsically, treatment for cancers involves often very toxic drugs and dangerous methods, which all have their potential side effects and failures...

therefore when cancer patients die, it is often either due to the disease, or side effects of the treatments...and that side effects are the same where ever you are in the world...

but unfortunately, people see this as "doctors mistake, incompetence" and blame them....

1. medical students and interns/housemans in ALL countries in the world (including...YES grey anatomy) are trained in public hospitals....

2. Sorry to burst your bubble, but "grey anatomy" tv drama is....exactly that...drama...NOT real world....only the romanticised thinks it real!!