so u dead and can carry all the money to grave? should spend it well in private treatment

heyy there .

Your post caught my attention .

From my pov , private serves better than most public hospital did .

Inarguably there's where our money were spend on . The service .

My sis suffering from breast cancer ,and another complication in her bladder makes the treatment delayed a while back .

FYI,just for the bladder operation we need to wait around 4 month in public hospital ,which at that time my sis almost cant consume any solid anymore .

So , we went on for private ,spend like nearly 15k for that operation + checkup , which settled less than a week .

And from there on , we decided to do the cancer treatment at that private hospital .

Might be it is burning the pocket,but it is my sister we're talking here .

Money can deficit/devalued/depreciate ,money I can find but my sister just irreplacable.

And I don't know situation in public hospital in another state , but that is how it is in borneo .

Hope this helps ts .

Thanks,

So the question would be, if you are rich / have insurance , how you decide either to go private OR gov for cancer treatment?
if no insurance and no money, don't talk about private, you don't even able to pay deposit.

Why private?
1) no need to wait
2) specialist treatment
3) greater consultation, more option
4) lower risk of failure

the only disadvantage that private might have is their equipment

why government?
1) better equipment

Disadvantage?
1) you need to queue and wait everytime you walk in
2) you need to make appointment (in and out) very frequently
3) those doctors treat you like white mouse
4) lousy consultation, less option
5) high risk of failure

Hmm, this is just too general a question to make a choice. It all boils down to a few circumstances :-

- What type of cancer? (you'd be surprised that some government hospitals are more experienced at treating certain types of cancer than private. Likewise private will also be better at other types. Not only that, even within the sub-govt or sub-private, certain "brand" hospitals will be better at certain cancer treatment types than others. Go research, go ask around, etc)

- Which doctor is where? (some doctors are both in private and govt, so if you trust a particular one, then by all means follow him/her wherever they are at) *i will follow youuuu...follow you wherever you may goooo*

- How much money do you have? (obviously if you are dirt rich, might as well open your scope to international treatments. If you are dirt poor, then no choice but govt. If you are in between, then only this question arises and I cannot choose for you, because only you know your own circumstances)

- Hospital location (somewhat tied down to the above. If you are rich enough your scope just expands. But if you are tied down, or do not have the time or resources to travel to a far hospital, then what choice do we have?)

That aside, there are also other form of treatments apart from hospitals, such as alternative medicine or TCM. I am certainly not endorsing them but what I am sharing is just to give you options and expand your mind to the choices available. Living a healthy, holistic lifestyle will also do good to your body. Cancer treatment also entails your emotions, interpersonal relationships and support. All the best!

You sure? I have been to private and the waiting can be just as long =p

Sorry but I do not want to badmouth hospitals in your report lol

I'll add in my 2 cents. My dad passed away from cancer, specifically in his lungs and nasal cavity. My grandmother passed away from stomach cancer. My other grandmother passed away from colon cancer. My uncle died of bone cancer. So maybe my words have some merits.

My opinion is that the treatment is more or less equal. The edge private hospitals have over public is the luxury of speedy services and private rooms.

If you can't afford it, public hospital is the way to go. Be prepared to wait. Sometimes cancer can't wait and in those cases like my father's he got priority so that's good too. But you won't be as comfortable as you'd be in a private hospital.

If you can afford it or if you're insured against cancer, then by all means go for private. You'll get more attention and more comfort, which sometimes can mean the difference between life and death.

As for me, I took up a personal insurance against cancer, get checked up often and lead as healthy a lifestyle as I can. If I get diagnosed with cancer, I know I will go for private hospitals.

What kind of help would you need?

my uncle has metastatic colon cancer, currently in a govt hospital in Selangor.

I really pity him on the inconveniences he's had to go through in the whole time of him being there since he was first diagnosed a couple of years ago.

Keeps getting turfed around, operating theatre always full and not enough doctors available (specialists)

heck, he's at a very urgent stage now for a CT scan, the earlier the better, been trying to get him to CT scan since Monday, hospital say no slot, need to wait until Friday (hopefully no more further delays after that)

Like all illnesses, not just cancers, msians are very lucky as you will get treatment no matter if you got money or not... Unlike some neighbours, you die if no money...

Having said that, everybody knows the pros and cons of both the public and private healthcare system...And since the main difference is money, therefore decided based on your financial means....

The worst is families selling their assets and going into debt to pay for treatments they cannot afford....When they can get similar care free in gov hospitals....

Learn to differentiate between the EFFECT and COMFORT of care....Money often have no impact on the former...

private definitely. It's not the illness that kills in public hosp, it's the waiting games that kill. But this statement is only true if you're insured or you're really wealthy.

my dad is undergoing treatment for leukemia at private hosp and until today, cost has come up to about 100k +-. But thank god he's insured. Though there's still waiting games at private hosp, it's much more bearable compared to gov hosp IMO.

And yes, service. Private hospital is able to provide you with comfort. it certainly helps in the patient's morale aspect.
But it's a shame really, where private hospitals in malaysia only cater to middle - high income citizens. Gov should make insurance policies more affordable for lower income people.

Depends as there are 3 types of hospitals in msia, each with their pros and cons

Private, Government, Semi Gov

Private:

Pros:-
1. Fast, in 1-2 weeks get dy
2. Service
3.  Very good at "common" bread and butter cases.

Cons:
1. Expensive, a mid range op can hit 20k , major ones heh
2. Not very good at "uncommon" non-bread and butter cases
3. Private dirty habits, make you stay longer to earn more monies.

Government

Pros:-

1. Cheap, probably the cheapest healthcare in the world
2. Doctors can escalate depending on need, say they open you up and found something another doctor is good at, they can call out for help and get that specialist to come in.
3. non-bread and butter cases, hence the term "experiment". these cases private wont touch coz too hard, too rare, too whatever.

cons:-

1. doctor choice is like them lucky draw, OT day can be anyone of the large doctor team they have
2. LOOOOONG wait (not all)
3. Basic treatment, you go in, their goal is to get you up and running asap, how good u feel with the service is no fuck given.
Semi Government

Pros:

1. Fast , 2 week wait and cheaper at 50% lower than market rate
2. Doctors are often senior government practitioners who are as good as outside
3. Basically any positive government thing la,

Cons:

1. Appts are always after working hours
2. Its still a government hospital, so no hotel class service
Basically its not to say one is better than the other, they are all good for their own things, i go government for some stuff and get treated faster than private but not for cancer la. so erm ya

Well...Just go talk to your friends or relatives who are doctors lah....Not depend on fiction and "fabric of good and evil"...Lol

You don't have to argue for the sake of arguing you know...

My home got 2 cancer patients. both of them went to government hospital for treatments. thank god. everything ok - for now.

Government hospital is not as bad as most of us perceived though. Government hospitals have improved tremendously over the years.

What kind of help would you need?