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 O/D On or Off? - Urgent, Should I Keep my O/D on? (Overdrive)

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post Jan 11 2017, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 11 2017, 05:05 PM)
I stand correct, for normal drive >> O/D off indicator is lighted means the car overdrive function is OFF.  brows.gif
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Overdrive should stay on (light off) all the time for best fuel economy

Overdrive off (light on) means you are limiting the maximum gear to 3rd gear and it won't engage 4th gear (for old vios gearbox)

Of course you can do both for your "normal drive" vios gearbox is very hardy, you can literally throw it around and it still work

Car owners nowadays don't read the user manual or even Google? hmm.gif

This post has been edited by amduser: Jan 11 2017, 05:36 PM
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post Jan 11 2017, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jan 11 2017, 05:35 PM)
Car owners nowadays don't read the user manual or even Google? hmm.gif
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Only Vios owners.
They know nuts about cars and just buy em for the badge.
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post Jan 11 2017, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(amandawo @ Jan 11 2017, 11:23 AM)
BTW... do you know roughly what other reason that may cause high FC for vios? I change gear oil edi. Service my car too.

Mechanic said mounting rosak but will not affect anything just that the car shake badly. tyre must change, nothing else liao... no mechanic could tell what happen.. i went 2 mechanics edi/...
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When u cruise 110km/h on the highway, whats your RPM?
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post Jan 11 2017, 09:18 PM

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You are doing it right. OD should be on, no lights at the speedometer there. Only off OD when you wanna lower a gear for overtaking or engine braking.

If you have bad fuel consumption, you might as well check a few things. Spark plugs, tyre type and pressure, engine oil type just to name a few.

Worn out plugs could cause loss of power and cause you to floor even more. Tyre pressure must be ideal around 30-32psi. If too low, lead to more contact with the road which increased rolling resistance. You could also opt to use thinner oil if you're driving short distance most of the time. All oil perform differently at cold start. They are only same when they get up to working temperature. If you're driving short distance like few km, then the engine oil might not yet reach the ideal working temperature which could lead to higher fc if you're using mineral oil 20-50w. Using fully synthetic oil could bring some improvement to fc if you're a frequent short distance.

There's also the possibility of bad oxygen sensor at the exhaust system which could cause the ecu to run the mixture a bit richer.

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post Jan 11 2017, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(amandawo @ Jan 11 2017, 11:23 AM)
BTW... do you know roughly what other reason that may cause high FC for vios? I change gear oil edi. Service my car too.

Mechanic said mounting rosak but will not affect anything just that the car shake badly. tyre must change, nothing else liao... no mechanic could tell what happen.. i went 2 mechanics edi/...
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engine oil, auto transmission oil does't effect on fuel consumption. reach the milleage then just go service. normal services can do at outside more cheaper compare go to service center.

if the fuel consumption high, possibility
1. o2 sensor,
2. last owner maybe overhaul/ engine condemn before
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:21 AM

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the confusion in this thread is over 9000... lol

Rule of thumb: if there are any indicator lights (other than your headlights when at night) that remains consistently on when you are doing normal driving means you are doing something wrong or the car needs to be looked at.

its pretty simply really, any lights include O/D, ABS, Traction, 4x4, handbrake, battery sign, check engine should not be visible in normal use.

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post Jan 12 2017, 10:30 AM

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As for the actual overdrive,

the overdrive gear you can think of it as a "highway cruising gear" which is typically the highest gear on your car, so if you have a 4 speeder, the overdrive is the 4th gear.

Switching it off means that you car will not go to the 4th gear and will go up maximum 3rd.

that being said, the whole O/D thing is a relic from the past for most people. all you really need to do is to stomp on your accelerator and the gear will kick down and get you in the right gear for overtaking. if you do not have enough torque, then you gearbox will not shift into higher gear in the first place.

like turning traction control off or putting a truck in low 4x4 gearing, unless you know what you are doing with the whole O/D off thingy (ie, towing), then don't bother to touch it.
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:35 AM

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This is outrages
My 2015 Vios can clock 440km full tank
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post Jan 12 2017, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(ahchun @ Jan 11 2017, 12:20 PM)
What is the condition of traffic?, if traffic is bad then FC is bad too. 

Is it you always wait in car and let the engine run?  This will use petrol with no milage for you to track. This case mostly happen for sales person waiting for appointment and parent wait for their kid to finish school. 

Tire need to always properly inflated

And also your driving habit

For the OD,  you already doing it right.  Just let it ON (light off)
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I did on engine every weekdays for roughly an hour, without car moving.. Cause waiting waiting... So that's one of the factor that caused fc high too? Hmm... Then let me try not turning on engine while waiting and see it improves the fc
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QUOTE(Karenalvin @ Jan 12 2017, 10:21 AM)
the confusion in this thread is over 9000... lol

Rule of thumb: if there are any indicator lights (other than your headlights when at night) that remains consistently on when you are doing normal driving means you are doing something wrong or the car needs to be looked at.

its pretty simply really, any lights include O/D, ABS, Traction, 4x4, handbrake, battery sign, check engine should not be visible in normal use.
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Which means the od light shouldn't be on while driving. Which I did correctly. I think it's because I leave my engine runs while I'm waiting for an hour every weekday that cause fc high... I'll try not to do it and observe the fc again...
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post Jan 12 2017, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jan 11 2017, 11:27 AM)
find a clear open highway......
1)test 1, od button clicked (light on)
-try drive at around 80 kmh (or whatever the speed limit is, faster = more noticeable)
-maintain said speed (try maintain the same speed aka needle no move, keep it at the same speed)
*to know what speed you are driving at, check your speedometer (the one with km/h)
-take note of the rpms (remember the figure)
*to know what the rpms are, check the tachometer, the meter with the rpm
-tabulate result
example: result: at 80 km/h, od light on, rpms are at around  3000rpm/3krpm

2)test 2, od button clicked again or 'disabled'(light off) (whatever you want to call it, select the other setting)
-try drive at around the same speed as before
-again, maintain said speed (try maintain the same speed aka needle no move, keep it at the same speed)
*to know what speed you are driving at, check the same meter, your speedometer (the one with km/h)
-again take note of the rpms (remember the figure again, do not confuse it with the other figure)
*to know what the rpms are, again check the tachometer, the meter with the rpm
-tabulate result
example: result: at 80 km/h, od light off, rpms are at around  2500rpm/2.5krpm

- the mode where you achieve lower rpms for the same speed... stick with that mode....
***examples are just examples u might not get those figures, just examples..... go forth and post your findings

edit: good luck  laugh.gif  thumbup.gif

i honestly cannot make it any easier than this  sweat.gif
eik whylah i type long version doh.gif
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Thanks both sifu!! It does explained and I'll try it too hehe..

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post Jan 12 2017, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jan 11 2017, 05:35 PM)
Overdrive should stay on (light off) all the time for best fuel economy

Overdrive off (light on) means you are limiting the maximum gear to 3rd gear and it won't engage 4th gear (for old vios gearbox)

Of course you can do both for your "normal drive" vios gearbox is very hardy, you can literally throw it around and it still work

Car owners nowadays don't read the user manual or even Google? hmm.gif
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I've tried googled but the on off and light on light off abit confuse hence I posted here to have clearer answer. U may googled and the answer may confuse you too, if you are a noob like I do... 😅
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post Jan 12 2017, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(amandawo @ Jan 12 2017, 12:12 PM)
I did on engine every weekdays for roughly an hour, without car moving.. Cause waiting waiting... So that's one of the factor that caused fc high too? Hmm...  Then let me try not turning on engine while waiting and see it improves the fc
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LoL
Of course it contributes too... one hour le...
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post Jan 12 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(AmenoJaku @ Jan 11 2017, 07:54 PM)
Only Vios owners.
They know nuts about cars and just buy em for the badge.
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Ya I admit I know nuts about cars, and yes I owned a Toyota vios knowing its well known for one of the best fc car. I bought second hand for both my cars, previously kelisa which has good fc too. Does that offend you for a noob to know nothing about car and own a Toyota? Or I should get an evo or subaru being a noob and ask nonsense question that make better sense?

This is NOT kopitiam, and there's not point for you to troll here. If you feels like helping, I'll thank you millions, but if you are here just to troll, thank you very much for wasting your precious time, reading this nut that drove Toyota vios writing this post asked nonsense question, which somehow somewhat offended you.


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post Jan 12 2017, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(amandawo @ Jan 12 2017, 12:21 PM)
Thanks both sifu!! It does explained and I'll try it too hehe..
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i think some have already answered (thou you can just test it out to be sure biggrin.gif )

they basically said, you should 'enable O/D' overdrive is enabled when the O/D indicator light is off (abit confusing yeah)
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QUOTE(amandawo @ Jan 12 2017, 12:12 PM)
I did on engine every weekdays for roughly an hour, without car moving.. Cause waiting waiting... So that's one of the factor that caused fc high too? Hmm...  Then let me try not turning on engine while waiting and see it improves the fc
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wahlao engine run 1 hour without moving weh... for sure FC damn high one. try to avoid that habit, when you stop more than 5 minutes, just roll down windows and off the engine thumbsup.gif
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post Jan 12 2017, 12:47 PM

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Thank you all the sifus!! I'll cut the habit of letting the engine run for hour when waiting and observe observe!

You guys are so helpful! Thanks!!
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post Jan 12 2017, 12:50 PM

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Oh not to forget, thanks to the troller (whom I think is a super expert driver whom thinks all nuts buy car just because of branding)... Later he come shoot ppl no manners.
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Do they give u the manual book when bought the car? Please read. All explanation there. How to use also shud be there
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QUOTE(BuncitPesonawan @ Jan 12 2017, 12:42 PM)
wahlao engine run 1 hour without moving weh... for sure FC damn high one. try to avoid that habit, when you stop more than 5 minutes, just roll down windows and off the engine thumbsup.gif
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lol just read this...... why.......... owaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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