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post Jan 6 2017, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Jan 6 2017, 10:39 AM)
Tax very high wor. Still can survive?

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tax is overrated , ppl often complain high tax without thinking of income/expense parity.

if you have $55k pa salary as a fresh grad, you won't survive while trying to RENT a 5 bed house in sydney.

but you can OWN a 2 bed old unit in brisbane with plenty to spare even after deducted homeloans monthly installments.

don't expect a luxury riverside inner-city 2 beds unit though.

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Jan 6 2017, 11:40 AM)
fresh food are cheap, depends on how you shop,
i only shop on weekly catalogues from coles/woolie/aldi and local market/grocers, stock them up when they're often on half price specials.

some usual prices on daily items as below,
broccoli - $1.99/kg
apples - $2.50/kg
orange - $1.50/kg
rockmelon - $0.99ea
2L fresh milk - $2.80
1L uht milk - $0.90
12 caged eggs 700g - $2.80

seasonal specials during cheapest moment,
3 avocados - $1
500g strawberries - $2.50

merlo coffee - happy hour $2/cup

cars are cheap but not parking in inner city/cbd unless workplace provides staff parking
toyota 86 only $35k driveaway here, while costing RM250k from umw

public transport not cheap either but very convenient yet still cheaper than daily paid parking.
25km radius from city by public transport costs $3.90ea way on peak hrs.

all above are based on brisbane.
$35k+-pa is min. wage for full-time adult even without any qualifications

fresh grad are higher than that and varies between industries/fields.

heck even cashier at petrol station get paid $28/hr for night shift and doubles on public holidays
au property is a joke at the moment, i'd say it has nearly peaked and one should expect the bubble to burst if timing is right for another gfc.
and it'll be ugly.

median house prices in sydney now over 1mil , with melbourne trailing up.
even the local gen-y/x can only dream of owning a house nowhere near inner-city

high-rise residentials are still growing like mushrooms with tower cranes everywhere, even though the market has cooled down and overseas buyers (china) have been clamped down on getting any loans approved resulting in oversupply of apartment units.
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They have aldi in Australia now? wow.

But interest rates in Aust are at an all time low. They planning to maintain that indefinitely, even to diminish their AAA status. Even if China buyers are clamped down, they still able to find a way into the Aussie real estate. Also the local buyers would be spurred due to low interest rates.

but I do agree 1 mil median price for an average Aussie house is extremely overpriced.

I don't think one can survive on 35k per annum. Need to survive the rental. I guess if one condo (usually one migrates with family), would cost 3k/mth for rental? Thus, income has to exceed36k per year? Not to mention, food cost, transportation, electricity n gas bills, other essentials and luxuries and Tax.

I saw some exec level jobs around 90k per annum, would be nice to get those for first time arrival migrants.
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post Jan 6 2017, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Jan 6 2017, 12:06 PM)
They have aldi in Australia now? wow.

But interest rates in Aust are at an all time low. They planning to maintain that indefinitely, even to diminish their AAA status. Even if China buyers are clamped down, they still able to find a way into the Aussie real estate. Also the local buyers would be spurred due to low interest rates.

but I do agree 1 mil median price for an average Aussie house is extremely overpriced.

I don't think one can survive on 35k per annum. Need to survive the rental. I guess if one condo (usually one migrates with family), would cost 3k/mth for rental? Thus, income has to exceed36k per year? Not to mention, food cost, transportation, electricity n gas bills, other essentials and luxuries and Tax.

I saw some exec level jobs around 90k per annum, would be nice to get those for first time arrival migrants.
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90k single can la... family with 1 kid just ok only, no luxuries like eating out, going for movies, etc
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post Jan 6 2017, 05:34 PM

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seems like us still the best choice
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post Jan 30 2017, 08:48 PM

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Hi

How hard is it to earn a PR in Australia ?
Can anyone share their experiences on the pathway to obtain a PR ?
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post Jan 31 2017, 07:46 AM

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why post in serious /k?

post in regular /k then got more replies...

I agree, it's easier for fresh (australian) grads than for older ppl like 30s to just migrate there, unless you get company transfer.

I like the high income (much higher than europe) but the distance from the rest of the world puts me off. sad.gif
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post Jan 31 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jan 6 2017, 12:29 PM)
90k single can la... family with 1 kid just ok only, no luxuries like eating out, going for movies, etc
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Not easy to get 90k a year job in Australia.

A lot of my friends been taking like 1 year or so to find jobs there.

To go migrate, need to have a lot of savings.
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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Jan 31 2017, 11:41 AM)
Not easy to get 90k a year job in Australia.

A lot of my friends been taking like 1 year or so to find jobs there.

To go migrate, need to have a lot of savings.
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It depends on what job and which part of Australia... and a bit of luck

Saving really need a lot,things are expensive in Melbourne


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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jan 31 2017, 02:06 PM)
It depends on what job and which part of Australia... and a bit of luck

Saving really need a lot,things are expensive in Melbourne
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Melbourne is the 2nd most vibrant place to find job. If its difficult to find in Melbourne, one would find it hard to find in anywhere in Oz.

I give one tip. My ex gf, she was smart, she used to be a consultant with Accenture but went on to take courses in montesorri. When she migrated, she did full time biz to open nursery. Of course there must be passion for kids as well. There's a lot of demand to open nursery in Oz due to the growing number of migrants whom both parents are working.

So if you can think out of the box rather than aim to be a salaried worker, perhaps your chances to succeed in migration would be better.
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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Feb 1 2017, 11:01 AM)
Melbourne is the 2nd most vibrant place to find job. If its difficult to find in Melbourne, one would find it hard to find in anywhere in Oz.

I give one tip. My ex gf, she was smart, she used to be a consultant with Accenture but went on to take courses in montesorri. When she migrated, she did full time biz to open nursery. Of course there must be passion for kids as well. There's a lot of demand to open nursery in Oz due to the growing number of migrants whom both parents are working.

So if you can think out of the box rather than aim to be a salaried worker, perhaps your chances to succeed in migration would be better.
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thinking out of the box is one thing... the bigger thing is having the startup modal for the business... cos you will be spending at least RM100k for that migration, where are you going to get another RM500k for a house downpayment and business start up?
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Feb 1 2017, 11:55 AM)
thinking out of the box is one thing... the bigger thing is having the startup modal for the business... cos you will be spending at least RM100k for that migration, where are you going to get another RM500k for a house downpayment and business start up?
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start small first. My ex gf started out working for established nurseries to get more experience and also volunteering in children church, spreading the word to parents about her services.

When she got the savings and build up her credentials, she set up her own biz lah.

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post Feb 1 2017, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jan 6 2017, 12:29 PM)
90k single can la... family with 1 kid just ok only, no luxuries like eating out, going for movies, etc
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one would live very comfortably with 90k, even if gross....including lots of eating outs and movies...


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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 1 2017, 02:39 PM)
one would live very comfortably with 90k, even if gross....including lots of eating outs and movies...
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Single is ok, family cannot la...

Also comfortable is subjective, my family (2adults and a toddler) spends min RM500/month on fish only and my son can go to RM160/2 hour class on Saturday... to me, this is acceptable life...

In Melbourne mostly can get cheap fish only... maybe I'm looking in the wrong places sweat.gif
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post Feb 2 2017, 03:38 AM

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Left Aussie for UK

Can't stand the flies and bugs during the summer there
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post Feb 2 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(tiffa @ Feb 2 2017, 03:38 AM)
Left Aussie for UK

Can't stand the flies and bugs during the summer there
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Actually UK better than Aust.

More better jobs and higher paying also. They more tolerant for Asian workers unlike Australia who don't appreciate Asian skilled workers.

Yes but you substitute flies and bugs for super dry weather and colder too.

Food in UK very suck la. Even their china town taste bland. I lost 10kg staying there. Weather so cold n dry until my feet skin also broke and carpet stick to my feet (within first 2 days in UK!). Have to buy moisturizer to wet my feet.

Clothes easily kena spoil by their water. No wonder clothes there so cheap la.

Reach 35 yo sure look haggard one, their water so bad for our skin. Just see all their Hollywood star in their 35 yo onwards la, all look wrinkled and haggard, not even botox can save them.

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post Feb 2 2017, 11:18 AM

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Generally, pay in Australia is 25-50% higher than UK,...For the same type and rank.... However the cost of living is also higher.... Depending on what you spend on, 10-50% higher....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 1 2017, 02:39 PM)
one would live very comfortably with 90k, even if gross....including lots of eating outs and movies...
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Also depends where.
If Tasmania or Adelaide, probably can live like a king.
If Sydney with 90k family income before tax, unless you brought a property 5-10 years ago, you will be struggling with mortgage.
Although there are lot of families with 60-70k income, they apply for cheap housing, and other gov benefits.
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Feb 2 2017, 01:21 PM)
Also depends where.
If Tasmania or Adelaide, probably can live like a king.
If Sydney with 90k family income before tax, unless you brought a property 5-10 years ago, you will be struggling with mortgage.
Although there are lot of families with 60-70k income, they apply for cheap housing, and other gov benefits.
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Tasmania harder to find jobs.
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Feb 2 2017, 01:21 PM)
Also depends where.
If Tasmania or Adelaide, probably can live like a king.
If Sydney with 90k family income before tax, unless you brought a property 5-10 years ago, you will be struggling with mortgage.
Although there are lot of families with 60-70k income, they apply for cheap housing, and other gov benefits.
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Avoid Sydney and Melbourne loh, for obvious reasons....You get very similar pays, irrespective of where you work...So obviously it's going to be much more comfortable in lower cost cities...
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•Expensive for locals to take local vacations, given our strong currency. It's cheaper to go overseas to Fiji, Bali, Vanuatu, or even Hawaii than for Aussies to explore the islands of the Great Barrier Reef.


no wonder Aussies act all rich in Bali laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif cause they are poor in their own country

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