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kenji1903
post Jan 6 2017, 06:10 AM

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to be frank... its all comparing first world countries...

i do agree that its away from everything... but the daily expenses, its generally the same as KL... i eat all organic in KL, hardly can find any organic shops in Melbourne... but raw food price wise, its pretty much the same with KL... minus the variety of fishes i get though... and free range eggs and milk are dirt cheap in Australia

clothing it depends, i noticed that expensive clothes (Northface) are cheaper in Melbourne where cheaper clothes (Uniqlo, H&M) are more expensive... when i say more expensive, i meant after converting to MYR... the Northface jacket that i bought for AUD400 costs a farking RM1899 at the Gardens

job depends... if you know people, you are ahead of the game, that's all i can say...

but yeah, luxuries are rare here... hardly see any nice watches on the streets except on Asians and people in Crown laugh.gif

i haven't taken public transportation for quite a while and i think Melbourne is doing a pretty good job so far

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post Jan 6 2017, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Jan 6 2017, 08:37 AM)
Dont forget average salary for fresh grad is AUD35k per year before tax vs RM36k... a freshie would have to be spending 1/2 month of his salary on that jacket.
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But i think Europe is still cheaper when i comes to food and clothing... bought a Tommy windbreaker for EUR200... older design costs RM1700+ at 1U
coffee is on average EUR2... in Melbourne, its around AUD3.5-AUD4.5
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post Jan 6 2017, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Jan 6 2017, 08:52 AM)
Pre GST, my rental in Melbourne was AUD 1,200 per month for a decent 5 room house with 2 garage at Sydney Road. Nowadays, it bloomed to AUD 5,000 per month.

No surprise prices in Australia has shot up. Its not actually cheap to live there.

Also, expect the NZ Lord of the ring type lifestyle. Its going to be laid back, and one has to retrain oneself to be acclimate to weird odd jobs rather than the white collar ones that we experience here.

Australia is not manufacturing based, its more focus on service industry. They also would disregard your Asian experience, so expect to be working at the lowest level like restarting all over again.
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frankly i'd say in Melbourne, service industry is top notch thumbup.gif

single income will struggle in Melbourne but its not impossible like in KL

that depends on which industry... but anyway, migration is starting all over anyway...
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post Jan 6 2017, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Jan 6 2017, 09:10 AM)
What is single income?

Trust me, it is a struggle. Some of my friends in Melbourne, are struggling for the sake of their children education. They think its worth it.
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its a struggle regardless where you are... just that PRs/citizens are paying less compared to foreign students
plus with the depreciating MYR, that's definitely gonna fakap your children's education savings if you stay back

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post Jan 6 2017, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Jan 6 2017, 10:43 AM)
Recently I heard potential budget cuts for the health, education benefits in AUstralia. Actually their AAA status is in danger of downgrade due to burgeoning budget deficit.
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every now and then there are hear says... i'd focus on earning money rather on those news...
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post Jan 6 2017, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Jan 6 2017, 11:40 AM)
fresh food are cheap, depends on how you shop,
i only shop on weekly catalogues from coles/woolie/aldi and local market/grocers, stock them up when they're often on half price specials.

some usual prices on daily items as below,
broccoli - $1.99/kg
apples - $2.50/kg
orange - $1.50/kg
rockmelon - $0.99ea
2L fresh milk - $2.80
1L uht milk - $0.90
12 caged eggs 700g - $2.80

seasonal specials during cheapest moment,
3 avocados - $1
500g strawberries - $2.50

merlo coffee - happy hour $2/cup

cars are cheap but not parking in inner city/cbd unless workplace provides staff parking
toyota 86 only $35k driveaway here, while costing RM250k from umw

public transport not cheap either but very convenient yet still cheaper than daily paid parking.
25km radius from city by public transport costs $3.90ea way on peak hrs.

all above are based on brisbane.
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Brisbane's a lot cheaper then...

i'm eating good in Malaysia and i have the same expectation for Aussie...
A2 1L milk - $2.50 at IGA
free range 800gm eggs - $5 at Coles
a slice of ocean trout, a slice of cod, a slice of perch - $18 at Eastland
250gm coffee beans - $16 at seven seas
6 apples (large), 3 oranges, 4 lemons - $15 at Eastland
i'm paying $140 for 30 days zone 1 + zone 2 myKi
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post Jan 6 2017, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Jan 6 2017, 12:06 PM)
They have aldi in Australia now? wow.

But interest rates in Aust are at an all time low. They planning to maintain that indefinitely, even to diminish their AAA status. Even if China buyers are clamped down, they still able to find a way into the Aussie real estate. Also the local buyers would be spurred due to low interest rates.

but I do agree 1 mil median price for an average Aussie house is extremely overpriced.

I don't think one can survive on 35k per annum. Need to survive the rental. I guess if one condo (usually one migrates with family), would cost 3k/mth for rental? Thus, income has to exceed36k per year? Not to mention, food cost, transportation, electricity n gas bills, other essentials and luxuries and Tax.

I saw some exec level jobs around 90k per annum, would be nice to get those for first time arrival migrants.
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90k single can la... family with 1 kid just ok only, no luxuries like eating out, going for movies, etc
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post Jan 31 2017, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Jan 31 2017, 11:41 AM)
Not easy to get 90k a year job in Australia.

A lot of my friends been taking like 1 year or so to find jobs there.

To go migrate, need to have a lot of savings.
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It depends on what job and which part of Australia... and a bit of luck

Saving really need a lot,things are expensive in Melbourne


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post Feb 1 2017, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Feb 1 2017, 11:01 AM)
Melbourne is the 2nd most vibrant place to find job. If its difficult to find in Melbourne, one would find it hard to find in anywhere in Oz.

I give one tip. My ex gf, she was smart, she used to be a consultant with Accenture but went on to take courses in montesorri. When she migrated, she did full time biz to open nursery. Of course there must be passion for kids as well. There's a lot of demand to open nursery in Oz due to the growing number of migrants whom both parents are working.

So if you can think out of the box rather than aim to be a salaried worker, perhaps your chances to succeed in migration would be better.
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thinking out of the box is one thing... the bigger thing is having the startup modal for the business... cos you will be spending at least RM100k for that migration, where are you going to get another RM500k for a house downpayment and business start up?
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post Feb 1 2017, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 1 2017, 02:39 PM)
one would live very comfortably with 90k, even if gross....including lots of eating outs and movies...
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Single is ok, family cannot la...

Also comfortable is subjective, my family (2adults and a toddler) spends min RM500/month on fish only and my son can go to RM160/2 hour class on Saturday... to me, this is acceptable life...

In Melbourne mostly can get cheap fish only... maybe I'm looking in the wrong places sweat.gif
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post Feb 4 2017, 03:42 PM

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Europe food taste a lot better than Aussie... and cheaper too

by the way... isit just me that think Aussie fish from the market is pretty much tasteless as in no fishy smell and no sweetness in it?
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post Feb 5 2017, 03:34 AM

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QUOTE(ssurrey @ Feb 4 2017, 09:03 PM)
So are you living in Ringwood now? Contracting with Telstra?
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post Feb 6 2017, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Feb 6 2017, 09:28 AM)
You already in Australia? haha
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nope... just curious why he specifically mentioned that suburb and company laugh.gif
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post Feb 6 2017, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Feb 6 2017, 10:49 AM)
Hahahaha, how nice if you really got the job n lived in that suburb.
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post Feb 6 2017, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Feb 6 2017, 11:25 AM)
working for Telstra, what's not to like?  rclxms.gif
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Telstra nice meh? shouldn't be any different working in Maxis right? laugh.gif
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post Feb 6 2017, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Feb 6 2017, 11:43 AM)
To be able to even get a job in Ah Kau small co in Oz, is already a big success esp when you are in your 30s and 40s.

So many of people I know migrate there for 1 year can't even find a permanent job.

What more to get a job in big corp like Telstra. I think Telstra more like equate to Telekom.
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post Jul 11 2017, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Jul 11 2017, 03:23 PM)
eh bro you also work for big 4 bank la  sweat.gif
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post Jul 11 2017, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Jul 11 2017, 08:40 PM)
just realised you spam most of the australian threads  laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2017, 04:57 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 11 2017, 10:33 PM)
so when migrating back to tassie?... biggrin.gif
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If I have the money I'd Love to retire in Hobart... my wife love that city too, quiet and beautiful smile.gif

How r u man?

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post Jul 12 2017, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 12 2017, 08:19 AM)
Retire?....migrate over, work for 20yrs, and you will be all set for retirement....

Earning in myr and retiring in AUD sounds impossible....people are doing the reverse...earn in aud (or sgd, usd whatever) and retiring in myr.... hmm.gif
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i know people who do that... retire in aussie...

and those who migrated and found a job in aussie so far i know have already applied or is thinking of applying for citizenship so most likely won't be returning to malaysia for retirement laugh.gif

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