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Rusty Nail
post Dec 25 2016, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 25 2016, 08:09 PM)
1HP aircon only 3A lo.. (700W or so)

your house is 60 or 100A

5 1HP aircon also no problem lo.
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Forgot to add fridge, washing machine, 700w mustard race pc 24/7
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post Dec 25 2016, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 25 2016, 08:48 PM)
yes your remark very useful,
might as well say wow its a white plastic box.
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I can't help it if you can't read
Whether it's useful or not is not my problem

Another person was asking how many phase TS has
TS asked how to check
I'm just telling him how

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post Dec 25 2016, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Dec 25 2016, 08:49 PM)
Forgot to add fridge, washing machine, 700w mustard race pc 24/7
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if the house electrical cant take those loads mention and 3 aircons, better sell of the useless house. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 25 2016, 08:53 PM

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I think Can. Just make sure the source is from different circuit breaker that other airconds are connected to
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post Dec 25 2016, 08:55 PM

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My house 1 phase, 5 ac. No problem
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post Dec 25 2016, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Dec 25 2016, 08:49 PM)
Forgot to add fridge, washing machine, 700w mustard race pc 24/7
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2 refrigerators, 1 washing machine, 3 units pc
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post Dec 25 2016, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(dapfanbodo @ Dec 25 2016, 08:57 PM)
What's the total HP of all the 3 units ? The 4th unit what HP ? Are you going on all 4 at the same time ?

If living hall one is 1.5hp while the other 2 are 1hp then no issue to have a 4th 1hp unit.

But I doubt your living hall one operating whole night ?
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living hall one is 1.5hp, my room 1hp, another room 1.5hp, plan to get another 2hp aircond, normally 2~3 units at the same time, but if got relatives come, will on 4 units at the same time hmm.gif
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post Dec 25 2016, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(dapfanbodo @ Dec 25 2016, 08:54 PM)
You install 3phase electric when you need 3phase power equipment not because you need to increase max load of electrical appliances.

Don't simply teach if you donno.
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adding aircond is not increasing the load?

maybe you are an expert, where else i'm just someone who have design and start up a few Cogen plants. Yeah, so please go ahead and explain to me the whole electrical loading concept again.
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QUOTE(dapfanbodo @ Dec 25 2016, 09:00 PM)
Some Bodo simply wanna act smart talking about 3phase electric.

Household appliances where need 3phase.
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so we are suppose to listen to some school dropped out like you then?
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post Dec 25 2016, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(dapfanbodo @ Dec 25 2016, 09:00 PM)
Some Bodo simply wanna act smart talking about 3phase electric.

Household appliances where need 3phase.
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unless he have a lift in his house whistling.gif
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post Dec 25 2016, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(dapfanbodo @ Dec 25 2016, 09:00 PM)
Household appliances where need 3phase.
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It's about balancing the load
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post Dec 25 2016, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Dec 25 2016, 08:05 PM)
Call certified electrician. Those aircon technicians will always say can can. They just split wires ok done.
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post Dec 25 2016, 09:40 PM

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make sure the cable at switch breaker can sustain the max load. if not, the cable will heat and maybe burn or short and faiya.. but dont worry the breaker will trip before that unless the breaker already change to high load.. and still using old small cable
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post Dec 25 2016, 09:49 PM

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You do have 3 phase equipment maybe those needing those 400 plus volt eq in factory. But in house if TNB just give single phase means we only have certain Max amount of load depending on the Max current through that single phase. Additional phase is just like adding a parallel load sharing thing. Right?


From tnb website:
Single-phase vs. Three-phase Supply
A single-phase meter measures usage from a 230 volt supply through two (2) wires, while a 3-phase meter measures usage from a 415 volt supply through four (4) wires.

You are advised to change from a single-phase supply to a 3-phase supply when your household electricity load exceeds 10kW or 50A. Generally, you should change to a 3-phase supply if you have three (3) or more air-conditioners in your home.

Upgrading to a 3-phase supply will increase stability and reliability of electricity supply to your premises.

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post Dec 25 2016, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Xcal @ Dec 25 2016, 09:49 PM)
You do have 3 phase equipment maybe those needing those 400 plus volt eq in factory. But in house if TNB just give single phase means we only have certain Max amount of load depending on the Max current through that single phase. Additional phase is just like adding a parallel load sharing thing. Right?
From tnb website:
Single-phase vs. Three-phase Supply
A single-phase meter measures usage from a 230 volt supply through two (2) wires, while a 3-phase meter measures usage from a 415 volt supply through four (4) wires.

You are advised to change from a single-phase supply to a 3-phase supply when your household electricity load exceeds 10kW or 50A. Generally, you should change to a 3-phase supply if you have three (3) or more air-conditioners in your home.

Upgrading to a 3-phase supply will increase stability and reliability of electricity supply to your premises.
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Agreed, we talking about power efficiency no doubt u can run 5 ac on single phase cabling, but your usage may be metered with error. my old house use to run 2 x 2hp, 1x 1.5 and another 1 hp unit but just for few hrs its still ok on single phase. But no doubt 3 phase is way forward for any future upgrade. Jus a humble opinion
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post Dec 25 2016, 10:21 PM

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Circuit breaker can tahan

But cables can or not

Later bakar
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post Dec 25 2016, 10:23 PM

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Take a photo of the meter, see how many cables are going in.

To tell whether one phase or three phase.
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post Dec 25 2016, 10:34 PM

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my friend house run 4 (2 2hp 2 1hp) on a single phase with almost 24/7 operation. the whole DB box on fire.
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Sorry this question may be out of topic...how much to upgrade from single phase to 3 phase?need to call tnb to do that?

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