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 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20

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Jliew168
post May 27 2017, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Battlefield1942 @ May 26 2017, 11:26 PM)
BearbearWong must be dam busy right now with so many workload coming his way.....same as my friend working in jabatan insolvesi.....young, old, middle age all go by bus load to them thank to the banks credit card.
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bearbearwong bz with something else now..
Mostly kena credit card now is gen y n gen x.. Good to serve them a lesson don't spend future money
. Credit card debt no big deal la, they credit limit normally won't that high and bank can't sue them for bankruptcy. They should contact akpk or bank to restructure the payment to keep a good record
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post May 27 2017, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ May 27 2017, 09:47 AM)
I actually like Zeti's initiative to control the credit - mortgages, credit cards, etc. Now there is a limit to the maximum cc limit you can get, about 2x of your gross perhaps?
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I don't know coz not in banking line.. I only use those cc that have cash back or special discount
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post Jul 2 2017, 05:45 PM

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Market is flooded with new low quality launching.. Buy sub sale is good kekeke
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post Jul 2 2017, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 2 2017, 06:02 PM)
Datuk liew.. my prop here oso drop price leh.. zzz
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Own stay no worry la... After cheap units sold then price go up again.. Property all time game la
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post Jul 2 2017, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 2 2017, 08:32 PM)
Affordable exclude unnecessary facility like gym, swimming pool, etc doesn't mean low quality. However, expect price of those condo mostly bought for investment to converge to affordable apartment level.
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New launching with fancy facilities and sell at premium price is crap..now new launching super high density really can't imagine how to stay
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post Jul 3 2017, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 3 2017, 06:14 AM)
Haizz,own stay paid the price... still there will be rich ppl ard
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GVH not good stay meh? That area seem sibeh far away from city.. Every morning fuxking jam towards jalan ampang

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post Jul 3 2017, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 3 2017, 11:07 AM)
Property is illiquid, price takes years to bottom.

poor workmanship is not limited to new launch or cheaper price unit e.g.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...97&id=753417896

residential title couldn't have higher density than commercial e.g. soho, soxo, which were popular during the property bull run. given practicality and stagnant income, those units launched during the bull run is likely to converge to affordable units.
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After many years u still same old story leh.... So buy or no buy
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post Jul 3 2017, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 3 2017, 12:21 PM)
As predicted many years ago, price is still on down trend.
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U are so passive.. Now is good time to buy value subsale

Election is coming, If BN win, gov will have another round of sucking people money and everything will go higher due to inflation..

If pakatan win, u will see another penang model n price will UUUUU
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post Jul 4 2017, 08:29 PM

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History will repeat itself.. After next few years people will complaint why never bought now while price is low... Those who wait will forever wait like missed the opportunity in 2008 when everyone claim crash but that is best time to enter market

By 2020 my Bro bearbearwong will laugh kau kau claim his right decision

Buy a good subsale now if found a dead chicken..
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post Jul 7 2017, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 7 2017, 08:53 AM)
R u ready for a rate hike. More selling pressing to flippers

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...or-a-rate-hike/
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Don't worry just don't overstretch yourself n keep a healthy margin..

Bad news always good for investment... People will panic and there is opportunity lol

When u see good news, u already missed the boat and the rich is enjoying the fruit to ripe

This post has been edited by Jliew168: Jul 7 2017, 02:21 PM
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post Jul 7 2017, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 7 2017, 02:39 PM)
Isn't this a bit too late to those flippers and wannabe that jumped on the bull run 2011-2015?

remember those uuu/bbb laugh at those who sold during the bull run? guess who has the last laugh.
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Of coz those who still holding have the last laugh.. Property all about time game .
Opportunity in bad time only last about 1-2 years then UUUUU again..
Now everyone is talking property slow down.. If u not action now don't expect u will join the bull 1-2 years later

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post Jul 7 2017, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 7 2017, 03:37 PM)
Developer net price is cheaper near vp than when launched.
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Property is time game... After 5-10 years this not a significant value at all
Those who think bought at bottom only should not invest in property at all
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post Jul 7 2017, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 7 2017, 03:15 PM)
Given over supply is increasing, interest rate on uptrend, likely credit squeeze, npl on residential is rising, property is more likely on down trend for next 2 years. even after price bottomed, expect price to remain stagnant or at best rise at inflation rate for the extended period. conditions for 2011 to 2013 cheap and easy credit is unlikely to occur in the foreseeable future. also the kangkong land will become aging nation by 2030, property price is likely on long term decline.

property is not the only investment opportunity available.
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Since many years ago u already claim downtrend but fact is property UUUUU 100% n down 20% from peak.. Many investor already make first and second round of profit..
Expecting another super bull coming beginning 2019..

After election foresee another blood sucking plan by gov..
Fuel up, tax up, construction material up, inflation kau kau

All this factor combine will push price increase kau kau like Hong-Kong and Singapore...

We are still lucky if still able to bough at current price
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post Jul 7 2017, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 7 2017, 08:08 PM)
kv property bull run 2011 to 2014 was fuelled by cheap and easy credit, a fallout of u.s fed qe. hence, the bull run started and ended with qe. in the foreseeable future, another u.s. fed qe is unlikely. in the contrary, u.s fed is to rise interest rate and likely to shrink its balance sheet, effectively a reversal of qe which may lead to credit crunch in emerging markets.

old age pensioners ability to buy property is limited by availability of bank loan. In ageing nation, there will be more old people selling than young people to buy. hence, property price is likely to remain stagnant.

beside gut feeling, there isn't any data to support the property will turn positive by 2020. in contrary, with mounting oversupply and rising interest rate, 2020 is more likely near the bottom of current down trend and remain stagnant thereafter.
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If I it mistaken on newspaper last few days mention that more than 50% people on klang Valley still unaforford to own house...

Malaysia only will become aging nation by 2035,
Still have 18 sweet time

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post Jul 7 2017, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 7 2017, 11:17 PM)
With more affordable housing is coming, demand for non-affordable will be depressed and price is expected to converge to affordable range.

Those who bought during the last bull run 2011-2015 were with 30 years loan tenure mean by the time they finished paying the bank, their house value could be below water.
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Don't silly... Affordable housing not really affordable..
300k for 800 Sq ft not cheap based on material that offer

2011-2015 have many new launching that cater many segment

Price stagnant now but it wil not last long... Another round bull is coming after election.. Good location still indicate UUUUU, medium upper property still in high demand and another 5% cut easily sold off

After 100% increase and drop 15% from top is not crash haha
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post Sep 16 2017, 12:31 PM

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Market is good.. Price already slow down and it is time to bbbbb lol
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post Sep 16 2017, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 16 2017, 12:44 PM)
This is only the beginning of price down trend, wait til bank interest rate rise and liquidity squeeze.
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Subsale drop little... Good location like bandar utama almost no drop at all.. New launch sell cheaper than previous year but quality is reducing and super high density



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post Jan 2 2018, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 2 2018, 04:17 PM)
Bought than announce else talk no action i.e. tin kosong.
Penthouse in mk is available at about 80% of 5 years ago price.

https://www.lelong.com.my/penthouse-11-mont...7-01-Sale-I.htm

https://www.iproperty.com.my/property/mont-...1/sale-5163350/
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This I agree. . Recently see some penthouse there with agent although cheap but not tempted as I not going to stay there..
Any advise?
Not good option for investment as people who have budget to rent a penthouse will go for 8 star condo like mk10
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post Jan 29 2018, 03:22 PM

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bearbearwong interest going up soon.. Your GVH apa macam
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post Jan 31 2018, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 31 2018, 12:12 PM)
Invite uuu/bbb to give their opinions.
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Erm wrong calculation.. Did not factor in that investor only took 10% on capital and the keyword is leverage..

Return should based on capital u folk out

Buy property 685k does not mean he using 685k as capital and the fact he just using 68.5k as capital..

Pls give your opinion if u think wrong

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