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 FundSuperMart v17 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Jan 6 2017, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Jan 6 2017, 05:58 PM)
IRR-to-date 8.40%
ROI-to-date 4.72%

still in accumulating phase

disclaimer:
I have RHB Gold and General fund. It's been having a good run over Xmas, pushing up my IRR
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While we are talking, RHB gold clocked in 4.98% increase for 5 jan nav.
puchongite
post Jan 7 2017, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 7 2017, 08:44 AM)
Actually it's hard to pin point when to top up China HK region. No correlation between the region and Ponzi 2.0

China and HK is the same level as 1 year ago and 5 year chart.
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Obviously people who top up china are definitely thinking that China will be higher some time in the future.
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post Jan 7 2017, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(GTA5 @ Jan 7 2017, 07:55 AM)
Is it wise to top up US Equity Fund at the moment? Thanks.
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Trump is not in the office yet and no policy has come out todate, so people will continue to speculate and during this speculation, the trend seems to go up ....

Did I say anything useful ? sweat.gif
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post Jan 7 2017, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 7 2017, 09:22 AM)
I have a gut feeling China will be a power house that can rival US one day so now I'm placing investment 50:50 to Manulife us and Dragon Fund. one tips the other goes up and vice versa.

China is too big to fail and you will be missing on all the excitement not riding a dragon and if it plummets to the ground the whole world will feel the impact.
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I also have some allocation in China funds. But it's China own large % of retail investors who are too near term focus which could spoil their own stock market.
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post Jan 7 2017, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 7 2017, 03:10 PM)
US exposed equity fund for me is purely a MYR/USD forex play. Yes, S&P is now trading at around 20 times PER. This is above average. Meaning the index is expensive. But, USD is expected to strengthen against MYR in the short to mid term it is an opportunity to grab some action. Personally I am capping my US exposure to 15% of my portfolio only.

Xuzen
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Small clarification needed. Do you include global fund (such as TAGTF) as part of the 15% or you exclude it?
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post Jan 7 2017, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(fense @ Jan 7 2017, 03:59 PM)
wrongly type. both i switch today also 0.5% sales charge.
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Sorry now what is the conclusion on sc for switching ?

Is it that inter switching gets 0.5% while intra switching gets 2% ?

This is then very funny. Sounds like a bug. LoL.

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post Jan 8 2017, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 8 2017, 01:37 PM)
I'm a noob yes (for now), but I am NOT talking about speculation. I am talking about concrete market trends.

Anyway if/when I do such a tactic, I will be sure to update everyone here with regards to its success or failure. I personally think there is margin to eke out even higher returns by doing some minimal informed tactical switching/redemption/re-allocation from time to time - but I guess I will have to put this hypothesis to test myself.
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Yes. I am supportive of it. Please update here your prediction. All of us here can testify or witness if the predict is good.
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post Jan 8 2017, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(fense @ Jan 8 2017, 03:58 PM)
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I did actively manage all the Funds one first year of investment, keep topping up and switching. but the gain is not much. I was so busy last year, forgot about active management. and 2016 was the best performance in my profolio. tongue.gif
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Market timing has the major deciding factor, for example the first week of 2017, almost all funds increased several percent.
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post Jan 8 2017, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(fense @ Jan 8 2017, 04:08 PM)
Timing is the hardest things to catch.
like xuzen said unless u have the crystal ball.

few percent is not the aim of growth, for me I aim higher return.

Who know suddenly someone Tembak Trump, world be crazy again. Or suddenly Jib Gor got a stroke and into coma. who knw?

* In US history, Leader being shoot to death was happened
* In Msia, Leader sudden death due to medical reason was happened every years.
In SG, the leader all so difficult to die, President Lee had brain tumor and prostate ca, also settled healthy after surgery.
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I think Malaysian leader sudden death might help boost ringgit. LOL.
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post Jan 8 2017, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 8 2017, 06:48 PM)
My portfolio, on average, barely 4 months old  blush.gif

Total portfolio value less than 8k  blush.gif
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Is the cut off the current date or last year end ?




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post Jan 8 2017, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 8 2017, 07:28 PM)
These value taken directly from account holding page (except kap chai need to manually include distribution sweat.gif), so is latest date tongue.gif
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Some of the funds that I have for about the same duration perform slightly better, so i am trying to find out why. Maybe it is due to you doing DCA, meaning the money was effectively shorter than 4 months ?

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post Jan 8 2017, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 8 2017, 07:39 PM)
May I know which fund are those? smile.gif

Because DCA will also incur SC, may be those SC havent recover  laugh.gif

And I said average 4 months because I started some funds earlier, some funds only added few months later, hence the average tongue.gif
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Yeah you are right, there are many other factors such as SC and also top up dates.
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post Jan 9 2017, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 9 2017, 08:17 AM)
Think e is thinking about shifting his portfolio from cimb clicks to FSM bro.
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If shifting based on sell-and-then-buy then it is not really worth it, particularly when this time when the market is on a upward trend.
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post Jan 9 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jan 9 2017, 10:30 AM)

If you really plan to do that, you should ask FSM to transfer the holdings over instead of selling in CIMB clicks and re-purchase in FSM. Not only you lose out on SC, you'd also lose out on timing which you emphasis so much of
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And that can take about 2 months. But the good thing is that there is no break in investment timing.
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post Jan 9 2017, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Jan 9 2017, 11:12 AM)
Interesting that FSM takes into account of the fund transfer for their reward program
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Time or patient is the only price you have to pay, everything else is a gain.

After submission of forms via snail mail, you are not supposed to trade it anymore and I don't know what will happen if you trade it further and the no of units does not tally with that in the your submitted form .....
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post Jan 9 2017, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 9 2017, 12:11 PM)
My port is up again. Asia - Pac has awaken from its slumber. Yay!  rclxms.gif

But this post let me take you down memory lane for 2016.

Early 2016, we all woke up to a shitty start. China circuit breaker fiasco... remember? All mkt was down, none was spared. It was a sea of red everywhere. Where can you go?

It took about four to five mths to reverse that carnage. Then it was Brexit. But it was not a big issue really except Europe focus fund. This shows really Europe as a world player has diminished role. It did not do any f3cking much.

And the market continue to rally and up and up and up.

I remember in one particular month, my port gave me a return equivalent to my one month salary. Imagine getting an early bonus.

Then f3cking h3ll, Trump won POTUS and my port went south coz I was in the view that Clinton will win the POTUS.I think if Clinton won, my port would have given me a fat fat CNY angpow.

But notwithstanding that issue,  I was cash heavy at that time and my port bounce up and down and did nothing much in the rest of Q4. It just moved sideways. As of 31/12/2016, my port gained 3% (4 mths tracking). Oh, well... such is the excitement that comes from investing in risky assets.

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What is the take home message ? Just ride it through and spring will come eventually ? sweat.gif
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post Jan 9 2017, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Jan 9 2017, 01:50 PM)
+1

was suprised to find out that too but yes, that bro is a sis.
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post Jan 9 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 9 2017, 01:58 PM)
agree with dasecret Diy unit trust investment can be a double edge sword and if you do not understand the basic fundamentals of it and how it works, you may be making big returns only to see most of the returns go into service charges, frequent switching fees and timing the market wrongly.

the way I see it,  every ripple be it brexit, trump and wars are just small ripples made in a vast ocean. think far and long term. have a diversified portfolio and ride out the waves, gain experience from it.

contestchris you are very new and very young, it explains the way you are investing. a fire brand. some of the guys and gals here have been at it for years so don't take it personally when they offer their advise. it may seem harsh but we gain nothing from helping each other so patience. I see you diving into stocks in the sub forum and you opened multiple threads.

you are playing a very dangerous game there buddy. just take a breather. you have many years ahead. room to grow. don't rush.
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My view is slightly different. I think what he said make sense, at least theoretically. Now he needs to demonstrate to us that his theory works. contestchris Please post more about your specific plans and actions. I don't know about others, I am all ears. But of course, everyone is responsible for his own portfolio, standard disclaimer applied !

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post Jan 9 2017, 07:41 PM

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There is a big discrepancy in Manulife US Equity fund price between FSM and Manulife website. Please tell me I read the figures wrongly !
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post Jan 9 2017, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 9 2017, 07:53 PM)
FSM = ?
Manulife site = ?
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FSM 0% Manulife 0.83%. I expect it be positive.

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