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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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joeblow
post Jun 8 2024, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jun 8 2024, 11:03 AM)
My Ambank 4.5% 18m placed on 8-Dec-22 matures on 10-Jun-24 due to 8-June-2024 being a weekend. However, the final monthly interest is credited today. I would have thought it will be credited together on maturing date 10-Jun-24.
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They credit you the interest rate based on full 4.5% including the extra 2 days over weekend? Never know Ambank 1.5 years ago had the 4.5%, I thought only PB and BI...

For PB, same as you mature on 8th June. They will give the 2 weekend days (need to request) based on board rate instead of promotional rate.
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post Jun 10 2024, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jun 10 2024, 12:05 PM)
I get 4% negotiated rate. Given chance, i rather go for BR for it’s monthly interest. Now I am asking BI to grant the same too, see if can or not.
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I don't think BI can give monthly, but do keep us updated.
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post Jun 10 2024, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 10 2024, 06:18 PM)
can confirm i had the same experience as well.

when went to BI they say no any promotions, the rate 2%++ only.. so i say wanna withdraw my FD out..
then they process it to savings account and ask me wait and duduk dulu cause they check what new rate they can give me..

after a while told me can get 3.9% only, then i say ok nvm not interested, i wanna withdraw out since i can get higher elsewhere.

then again say ok duduk dulu, let us check with HQ again see can get what rate.. finally returned with 4% 12months upon maturity. So i decided to stay with BI instead of going over to MBSB to go through the whole opening account process yada yada.

But the manager or asst. manager keep saying this is the only time i can get this rate, after this in future no more dy cannot do like this anymore and this is a one-time thing..
I also dont know what marketing or sales pitch is this kek. As if i should be indebted or grateful to them cause they able to match MBSB lol.. Or like im the one asking BI for a huuuge favour to give me a rate that i can already get elsewhere.. Was just a weird exchange overall with the manager/asst. manager.. The front desk clerk was alright..
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LOL you summed up my experience in BI. Seriously funny how BI and MBSB operate. This special 4% sometimes can get, sometimes cannot. Sometimes need fresh fund, sometimes don't need. I suspect depends on the mood of the people in HQ.

But BI confirm for me is better than MBSB. MBSB doesn't give full 4% plus if FD matures over weekend no carry over.
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post Jun 13 2024, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Jun 12 2024, 02:47 PM)
yeah it does mean that.

can show further details on the calculation of 3.99 instead of 4? i couldn't find it. would like to understand it for my consideration on placemrnt.
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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Jun 12 2024, 06:16 PM)
well some other principal amounts may yield more than 20, may be 200 or much more

this has to be clear. i really thought mbsb will give 0.01% less than advertised.
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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Jun 13 2024, 09:58 AM)
thanks for confirming. my first fd with mbsb not yet matured so cant be sure. got confused earlier with the messages.
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Initially I thought you are trolling, now I realize you really want to know. Kind of strange. Your MBSB FD Cert should have the profit amount, aka interest accured at maturity. Use that to divide against your principle and you will get 3.99xx%, unless your old MBSB cert doesn't have that.
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post Jun 13 2024, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Jun 13 2024, 01:50 PM)
i think i have the cert but mine even more complicated. some 70% 30% thingy and i think no numbers on expected profit.

yeah, i was considering mbsb. well less than 200k and will yield only less than rm20. but it is important principally.

the distance from myplace of stay and daily transfer limit of 30k were the two bigger factors though.

so for your fd certs, expected interest amount / principal = 3.99 %?
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Yes. Since the 4% promotion is direct full FD.


QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 13 2024, 02:05 PM)
bro we dont troll lah, we are serious to get to the truth nothing but the truth.

i advise you to  use divisor 366 for 2024 and recheck again.

see  the post  by 1mr3tard3d
the correct way to calculate the interest

dont make the same mistake sexyguy did.

why not you try my cert  to reconfirm
is that 4.4% or not?
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Why do I need to calculate again? I accept the fact 3.99% is based on the leap year 366 days. And what mistake did I make? I never reply to your post but to cclim because he wants to know why it is 3.99%. The fact is MBSB for this promotion gives only 3.99% nett and if their calculation is correct so be it. Most people would assume to get the full 4% since the placement date is after Feb 29th. I don't see why this thread has to be so argumentative.

And why do I have to use your cert to make a point? I don't care if you get 4.4% or whatever.

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post Jun 13 2024, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 13 2024, 02:37 PM)
bro if MBSB is paying you exact 4.000% and you dont know how  to calculate

and  you come tell those having same FD like you

hey, you are not getting 4.0% as stated do you know?

is that a favour you bring them?
to ccclim  i think you guys bring him distress.

here we are trying to correct that wrong  message.
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What are you talking about? What favour I bring them. Initially I find it funny cclim doesn't know how to calculate that's why I thought he is trolling. So I am telling him how to calculate why people got the 3.99% that's based on 365 days. Clearly MBSB is using 366 days hence only 3.99% (based on 365 days). Why is it such a big issue?

Bank Islam offers 4.0% to those who successfully requested like myself, they pay me the FULL 4.0% based on 365 days and even paying me the weekend days if maturity falls on a weekend. Thus all my money now goes to Bank Islam. In case you don't understand the logic, if I place on FD with BI and MBSB (both 4% same amount same maturity date), I will get more money back with BI.

QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Jun 13 2024, 02:42 PM)
i want to know it's 3.99 or 4 based on actual numbers and dates.

i did not say it is 3.99 and wanted to know why.

i am not arguing. i just want to know if mbsb pay me 399 or 400 next year this date, if i placed 10k today.
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So now do you understand or in more distress after my post? Or still confused due to the lengthy arguments in this thread? If you still do not understand, let me help you. If Bank Islam can offer you 4.0% then go for it. Because you get the full 4.0% based on 365 days calculation plus additional weekend days if maturity falls on them. BI will make the maturity date to the next working day, MBSB for this promotion will just credit everything to your CASA on maturity day.

Still don't understand or in more "distress" like what the guy3288 is saying, then I stop posting and let other experts explain.

Seriously toxic.




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post Jun 13 2024, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Jun 13 2024, 04:02 PM)
i dont want to get into this weird argument. i just want to know if mbsb pay me 399 or 400 next year this date if i place 10k today. if you dont have the answer it is really fine.
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Answer is 399.xx. If you place in BI you will get 400.
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post Jun 13 2024, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ Apr 18 2024, 06:07 PM)
Just placed more FD at MBSB 4% 12 months. Now they accept personal cheques with effective date the day FD placed. But this 4% promotion is strange, the actual rate given is 3.9925 instead of 4%... But I guess this place still highest at the moment.

Bond and FD market getting shameful... hope OPR goes up. Our ringgit too weak.
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Hmm... I had to dig out my very post on MBSB rate. I noticed it is 3.9925% instead of 4% based on taking the interest given divide by the principle. I believe some folks after that explained why it is only effective 3.9925% based on leap year calculation and I never comment after that since I understood why effective only 3.9925%. As I said then, the highest at the moment was that. Take it or leave it. Not sure why a good gesture reply to cclim can turn into something this toxic.
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post Jun 13 2024, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 13 2024, 06:19 PM)
just to show you  if you follow TnC MBSB 366 divisor , interest rate 4.4% is exact, not short
you just calculate and see.

It is irresponsible for some to make a big hoo ha that MBSB
misled, shortchanged, underpaid depositor with 3.99% for a 4.0% FD.

you get less because  of 366 divisor
not because bank paid you 3.99% instead of 4.0%
different implication bro
the former bank follows rule, the latter bank cheating.

totally refused to accept the 366 divisor then dont deposit lah
go to BI as you said fair enough.

the responsible way  to tell others is

MBSB use 366 divisor so be prepared  you would get less

Mind you
using 366 divisor in Leap year is the rule rather than the exception.
(which bank dont want to squeeze more from us?)

Bank Islam is the exception maybe  stupid lah. see PBB, Ambank, MBB, Rize etc.
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Seriously dude, it is either you are a troll or you have issue with that sexandiknowit guy and took it out on my post. I don't need you to explain to me why i am getting effective 3.9925% based on what my FD Cert states. I already replied I know why. If you have a beef with someone else I appreciate you reply that someone instead of me.

This is a FD thread where we try to help each other to get the best deal. I really wanted to help cclim (if he is not trolling) to understand this 3.99% and how we got it. What's wrong with me saying I get only 3.99% based on my cert information? Why do I need to be responsible to explain for MBSB? A lot of guys already put in their analysis on the 366, not enough? I have no beef with that. The effective rate we get is indeed 3.9925%. Nothing wrong with that. Effective rate you understand right?

Seriously I am a bit fed up. You seem to want to have the last word yet you don't understand the logic of your rambling should be to someone else and not to my post. Don't you think your argumentative nature is becoming a toxic to this thread? And to make matter interesting, it is someone else who first explained the 366 days calculation. Not you. And you are only unhappy because someone says/infer MBSB is cheating.

Enough already man. You don't have to tell me how FD works. Let's keep this FD thread informative and not argumentative please.



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post Jun 13 2024, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 13 2024, 08:14 PM)
to be fair.. you cant say you getting 3.99% or whatever also what..

cause their tnc clearly stated they use either 365 or 366 divisor.
and as 2024 is leap year, so they follow 366 divisor..

Whether you want to argue if placement after 29th Feb to the next year is no longer "leap" days cause it will be 365 total days only.. Well too bad, as a whole we still under 2024, which is designated as a leap year already.. So any placements made this year, the bank can still say we are in leap year, thus follow leap year formula..

So if follow 366 divisor, they really give you 4% right.. If you want to say you get 3.99% then clearly its misleading and can even be looked as slander, cause you refuse to acknowledge the calculation stated in TNC..
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You seem to be objective and speaks from TnC. Yes I am never disputing the fact that MBSB if they use 366 divisor give me 4%. No question about that. I am speaking from the immediately reaction I get when I see the expected interest rate divided by principle which gives me 3.9925% effective. Have you guys recently placed FD with MBSB and BI?

Now why can't I say that? I am not saying MBSB cheated me or whatever. Effective rate based on 365 days return is 3.9925%. Or is it because I omitted the "effective" word?

I give you a real life example but I am not going to spend more time on this topic by posting my FDs.

I placed both MBSB and Bank Islam in May period, both same 365 days period 1 year. Based on rm10000. MBSB gives me effective only rm399.25 after 1 year (365 days). Real example. So I can't say MBSB give me only 3.9925%? Is it ok to you and guy9288 I say effective rate 3.9925%? Or I must say MBSB give me 4%? If MBSB give me 4% but only give me rm399.25. BI give me the full rm400, so BI give me 4.xx%?

Using the example above I disagree it is slandar and I do acknowledge based on the TnC the effective rate of 3.9925% is calculative based on the 4% on a leap year.

Why you guys need to get so technical about that? So next time I want to share information in this forum, I must be so technical? Tell people I get MBSB 4% and BI also 4% but MBSB follows 366 days? Is that it? I might as well don't post. People want to know the effective return over the same 1 year period right?

OK even though I get rm399.25 from MBSB, they give me also 4%. Now BI gives me rm400, also 4%. Next time write like this happy?

Wow I never expect something so trivial can turn into such laborious discussion. Again don't confuse me with others who might infer MBSB is wrong or cheating. That's not my purpose.

The notion effective rate is gone and I feel my points are being twisted. Would it be ok to put effective rate 3.9925?

Whatever lah. Let's move on and stop here.

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