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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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post Aug 10 2017, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Aug 10 2017, 06:22 PM)
Your calculation is wrong. Where got effective rate 4.337%?

The effective rate is in between 4.28% to 4.3% even if use Affin Gold saving rate to calculate.

Not all fund in Affin Gold saving account will get 2.15%,
First RM 4999.00 in Affin Gold will get 0.85%, then from RM 5000 to RM 99,999.99 will only get 2.15%

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Assume 90k in FD, 10k in Affin Gold saving at 2.15%.
The saving interest after two years is rm430 (non compounded) Is this calculaion wrong?
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post Aug 11 2017, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Aug 10 2017, 11:11 PM)
Just now I used total RM 120,000.00 to calculate.
RM 108000 (90%) put to FD at 4.58%, RM 12,000 (10%) put to Affin Gold, I came out with effective rate 4.28%

I saw the FD promo flyer in Affin Bank few days ago, it printed clearly the effective rate is in between 4.28% to 4.3%.
Too bad I forgot to grab it so that I can show it to you.

The Affin officer also told me that the previous pure 4.3% FD promo is slightly better.

I do not know how do you calculate RM 430?
But I am sure the effective rate is in between 4.28% to 4.3% for this current Affin promo.

A bigger fund is required in order to get a better return (max 4.3%) for this Affin FD promo, Affin bank is quite cunning in this area..

I do not think you have any other better option besides Affin Bank (2 years) since you do not like to put in Bank Muamalat..
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Assume 10k and above place in Affin Gold saving, 2.15%
It does not matter we use 100k or 120k or 200k, the effective interest rate remain at 4.337% for 12 months.
Not bigger fund size get better return.

108,000 at 4.58% for two years, interest earned 9892.80
12,000 at 2.15% for two years, interest earned 516.00
Total interest earned for 120k for two years is 10408.8

Working backwards the interest rate is 4.337%.

Did you times 2 years for your saving account interest rate ?

The key factor here is the Affin Gold saving account rate at 2.15%.
Am bank True Savers, Ocbc Easi save (?) etc all gave high saving rate when first launched but cant sustain in two years.

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post Aug 11 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Aug 11 2017, 12:27 PM)
The posts from gsc and BoomChaCha pointed to differences in the correct way to calculate. I just telephoned Affin Bank to check up what is the correct method.

1) For 10k for 2 years at 4.58% p.a., 1k in Affin Gold at 0.85% p.a
2) For 100k for 2 years at 4.58% p.a., 10k in Affin Gold at 2.15% p.a.

Did not seem to be 9k FD and 1k SA, nor 90k FD and 10k SA. Not 90%:10% but 10:1.

Affin website shows the different savings products rates displayed as "bands" instead of "tiers".
All the savings products are actually tier-type except special for Affin Gold which is different as "flat" or one rate only for a savings balance.

Banks normally have a tendency to use jargon and carelessly lump differences due to imprecise miscommunication and lack of clearcut examples. This is especially among those banks whose command of English is more confusing than clear. Some banks are outstanding for either good reasons or for the wrong reasons.

Normal size FD 10,000 x 4.58 / 100 x 2 = 916
Affin Gold 1,000 x 0.85 / 100 x 2 = 17
Total collection 916 + 17 = 933
Rate  933 / 11,000 x 100 / 2 = 4.240909... p.a.

Bigger size FD 100,000 x 4.58 /100 x 2 = 9160
Affin Gold 10,000 x 2.15 /100 x 2 = 430
Total collection 9,160 + 430 = 9,590
Rate  9,590 /110,000 x 100 / 2 = 4.35909... p.a

Affin Gold savings also provides "free" insurance up to a maximum limit. Check with bank for actual details.

Note that the 10:1 ratio is better than the 90% or 9:1 ratio.
The bank person says this explanation is for all Affin Bank and not different for different branches. So check out what is actually happening at your branch.

I was told a few days ago that the promo ends at end of this year. Affin Islamic have a different set of promos ending on 30th August which are differnt in details from the set of promos at Affin Bank don't get confused.
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Thanks for the clarification on the 10:1 ratio.
As long as the amount is rm10k and above in SA, the effective rate is 4.359 or 4.36%.

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post Aug 12 2017, 03:48 AM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Aug 12 2017, 12:00 AM)
Thanks for the two attachments. But I am still doubtful whether they are properly written (meaning being different) in English. Cannot simply believe whether written or oral.

Supposing that the correct interpretation is 90% FD and 10% Affin Gold for the best case calculation (not 10:1 ratio), and tier calculation is used for Affin Gold instead of flat rate on the savings balance in the published band.

For 10k, made up of 9k and 1k, the collection is 824.40+17=841.40 which is 4.207% p.a. only. If the minimum placement is only 10k (please confirm), then the best at the lowest placement is 4.207% p.a. whicih is lower than flat calculation which give 4.240909% p.a.  Lower than the extended promo of 4,25% at Bank Islam for 18 months. What is the meaning of 4.28% quoted in the flyer then?

For 100k, made up of 90k and 5k and 5k, the collection is 8244+85+215=8544 which is only 4.272% p.a, - still lower than 4.28% p.a! Also lower than Bank Muamalat 100k at 4.3%  for only 12 months.

For the odd figure of 120k, made up of 108k and 5k and 7k, the collection is 9898.80+85+301.00=10278.80 which gives 4.2828333% p.a.

For 200k, made up of 180k and 5k and 15k, the collection is 16488+85+645=17218 which gives 4.3045% p.a.

For 1m, made up of 900k and 5k and 95k, the collection is 82440+85+4085=86610 which gives 4.3305% p.a

For 2m, made up of 1.8m and 5k and 95k and 100k, the collection is 164880+85+4085+5600=174650 which gives 4.36625% p.a.

So is quoting 4.28% -4.3% a meaningful range when the actual range is less at the lower end and more at the top end. Especially for non-senior who cannot qualify for the better senior Affin Gold rate?

For the time being, at 100k it is still worse than Bank Muamalat. At the lower end it is worse than Bank Islam at 4.25% for only 18 months extended to 30 September. So what is the purpose of this promo - hoping nothing better shows up before or after October?
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Key points
1) is tier or flat rate is used for saving interest rate
2) lower amount deposited into SA will defintely generate lower return as the interest rate is very low.
3) bank wrote 4.28 - 4.30% could be they know SA rate will be going down not up in the next two years.
It is better write a lower effective rate than give a higher rate as the difference is quite small.
4) it may not be competitive at this moment but could be one of the best in near future. Only time can tell and the bank may change the rate before promo end just like Muamalat Bank

You are correct, this is not an attractive deal.

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post Aug 15 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Aug 14 2017, 09:50 PM)
Yes, I will open a current account to see if I can take advantage of this 5.3% interest.
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Went to Cimb bank.Was told only selected preferred customers will entitle to this 3% bonus interest.

Btw, where is Goat brother...No news from him?

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QUOTE(thirumaran @ Aug 15 2017, 11:41 AM)
Regarding the HLB monthly interest, apparently since last mth, they have changed the T&C.

I renewed on July 11th, and interest payments will only be done at the end of 6 mths or 12 mths,
so no more monthly interest.

Confirmed this at the branch today in Sri Petaling (for my certs anyway) even though I never
changed anything when i renewed.
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When a customer renew a FD cert, there will be new T and C. New interest rates, interest payments frequency etc. No change in T & C previously does not mean Bank cannot change it forever.

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QUOTE(LNYC @ Aug 17 2017, 11:55 AM)
I once encountered this. But I was told that the penalty is act on the pre-calculated interest. Means.. Suppose give u x amt of interest, but the end deducted that for the early uplift
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I personnaly encountered this as well. Early cancellation on auto renewed FD has to pay the total interests supposed to get.
Most banks only practises penalty on interest earned, not on the interest supposed to get.
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post Aug 28 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(o0o0 @ Aug 28 2017, 11:31 AM)
Bank Rakyat so quiet recently?
i tot all banks are short of cash now,
why Bank Rakyat no FD promo for so long time d ?
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Can share sources banks are short of cash flow?
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post Aug 29 2017, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Aug 28 2017, 02:22 PM)
Tqvm
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post Aug 30 2017, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(khanninah @ Aug 29 2017, 08:46 AM)
i call ambank but they dont have any info on this rate. their ongoing promo is 4% for 12 months minimum 10k.

can you please share at which branch you made the 50k placement ?
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eFD Am bank

Went to HL , was told 4.1% for 6 months. promotion period 1/9 to 7/9

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Sep 2 2017, 07:52 PM)
Thank you for your reply. Main priority is to get the certs and update them, as I can't remember when  they were last updated.

The limit of 2 certs is a letdown, as i understand there is an RM10 stamp fee, hence multiple trips mean multiple stamp fees.
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PB usually sends update to customer in those 4 sided consealed envelops
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post Sep 5 2017, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Sep 5 2017, 11:41 AM)
Ambank eFD: 6 months at 4.00%, min RM 10K, valid until 31 Oct

Hong Leong Bank OTC:
(1) 10 months at 4.1%, min RM 10K
(2) 6 months at 3.9%, valid until 31 Oct
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Am signature Priority
Min 50k
4.15% for 12 months
4% for 6 months

3.6% for 4 months entitled 20 inch trolley bag, min 200k

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post Sep 6 2017, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Sep 5 2017, 03:54 PM)
Called one Am Bank branch, a female staff said she just received this new promo, maximum is 4.1% for 1 year,
if want to get 4.15%, then she needs to call HQ for approval, but she said the chance to get 4.15% is almost
impossible since another customer wanted to put RM 20 millions also could not get 4.15%.

I was quite frustrated, then called to another AM bank branch, a female staff said yes, can get 4.15% after
call to HQ.

Thanks so much, your info just come in at a right good timing....  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
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Yes you are correct. Branch has to call HQ for approval. It is weekly rate meaning the branch may increase or lower it or no change for the following week.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 16 2017, 08:49 AM)
Thanks.

I have some Aust$ left downunder for years now. Thought of transferring that to a foreign FD here.

Thought in the past, saw really attractive foreign FD rates. But checked the web, now <2% rates!

Can transfer back to RM with higher rate. But for sentimental, I still have some Aus$ mentality, etc etc, reluctant to transfer out.

So a foreign FD will allow me to keep the Aust$ and get a higher rate (not really now).

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Local banks cannot straight away accept Aus dollar for FD when you dont have a Aus dollar account.
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post Sep 27 2017, 03:08 AM

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27 to 29 Sept
Am bank priority customer
4.3% 60 months
4.2% 12 months
4% 6 months
Min 50k
Monthly interest for senior customers, age 50 and above
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QUOTE(hwonggc @ Sep 28 2017, 12:46 PM)
Anyone heard of Manulife Manusecures Series. They offer 11% to 17% interest for duration of minimum 5-20 yrs.
Wonder if it's trust worthy.

http://www.manulife.com.my/servlet/servlet...6F0000126C9TUAU

I've never bought any of these, it seem very good. How bank can compete if this is true?
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Try to ask the 11% to 17% interest on principal or ?? They always try to trick people ....
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 2 2017, 01:00 PM)
FD promo:

OCBC, min 10k
Conventional 12 mth 4%,
Islamic 12 mth 4.1%
15 mth: Conventional 3.9%, Islamic 4.0%
Mi FD same promo but with monthly interest

MBSB:
8 mth 4.08%
60 mth 4.3%
12 mth 4.2% for 500k (can try to nego further ??)

AmBank:
For today only:
12 mth 4.2%
6 mth 4%

Muamalat: No promo for now
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Am bank Priority
2 to 9 Oct 2017
4.3% 60 months
4.2% 12 months
4% for 6 months
Min 10k.
Monthly interest for senior citizen.

Was told earlier only three days and I made the placement last Friday.

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QUOTE(ProxMatoR @ Oct 3 2017, 11:28 AM)
I got this info too, not limited to senior citizen tho.......
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Monthly interest applied to senior citizen...promo offer to Am priority customers
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post Oct 3 2017, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 3 2017, 11:37 AM)
See my updated post. AmBank 4.2% till end this week.  biggrin.gif
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Am Mgr message said from 2 to 9 Oct. Well let other members find out.
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post Oct 3 2017, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 3 2017, 05:43 PM)
Update 3/10/2017:

UOB fd promo same as last month (did not find out more details as rate not attractive to me  tongue.gif )

HL OTC 6 mth 3.9%, 18 mth 4.1%. (HL eFD 12 mth 4.2% is better)

MBSB able to give 12 mth 4.25% nego rate for >500k FD. Nego to get even better rate !!

AmBank FD promo till end of this week or Monday 9/10 as some members found out.

FD promo:

OCBC, min 10k
Conventional 12 mth 4%,
Islamic 12 mth 4.1%
15 mth: Conventional 3.9%, Islamic 4.0%
Mi FD same promo but with monthly interest

MBSB:
8 mth 4.08%
60 mth 4.3%
12 mth 4.25% for 500k, nego for better rate

AmBank:
12 mth 4.2%
6 mth 4%

Muamalat: No promo for now
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Am bank promo applies to everyone. It was for priority customers last week, minimum 50k.
But the promo now is for everyone and minimum only rm10k. May be Am bank didn't hit its target last week.

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