Just wondering how many of you already are or interested in studying in Canada. I'm currently studying in the University of Toronto and would gladly help anyone who has questions or thoughts about studying in Canada. This thread is also open for discussing experiences.

U of T is very big.

RIght now coinsidering to study in US, Australia or Canada or anywhere. Why don't you list down the afvantages of studying in Canada compared to US?

Cheaper..........No Patriot Act.

Indeed it is. And at times it will seem overwhelming. I am taking Com Science and Economics but there was an Astronomy class I took that had about 900 people in the lecture hall.

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Added on February 19, 2007, 9:50 pmHm. Here's what I think..feel free to correct me if I'm wrong?

I think it's cheaper than the US, in terms of cost of living(questionable) and tuition fees. International students are allowed to work legally both in and outside of the campus. And I believe that the Engineering faculty at U of T allows international students to join the internship program. This means you get to work for a year with a company with Canadian wages. Don't know if US allows you to do that or not?

Here's a link to the tuition fees in Canada:
Tuition Fees in Canada

I think Canada, well Toronto in particular is much more culturally diverse. You won't feel out of place here with the many Singaporeans and Malaysians all around. There are quite a few Malaysian/Singaporean restaurants. Not that they are excellent restaurants but if you really really miss it, then it's there.

Anything else I should add? Can't think at the moment.


This post has been edited by Tereno: Feb 19 2007, 09:50 PM

erm..can we apply for masters using uk degree??bcoz canada degree is 4-year but uk is 3-year...so im wondering whether they will accept or not...

Hmm, I heard that Canadian educational system is the total opposite of the Commonwealth system. If you get a Canadian degree, it's useless in Malaysia and other Commonweath countries. Is this right? Oh ya, I'm talking specifically about Pharmacy and engineering courses.

I'm interested to join UoT for a long time ago. But I am currently taking foundation course in engineering in a local private U. So what can i do if i wanna get into UoT(engineering)? And how is the duration and price like?

JPA sends students to Canada for engineering.......

The fees are like CAD20k per year. If you want to go to Canada, you should have done courses like A-level, STPM, CPU, SAM etc. The foundation course that you are taking is unlikely to be recognised.

Yes I believe that it will be accepted. The 4 year degree awarded is an Honours Degree. But I don't think you will have a problem using a 3 year degree from UK. I'm thinking you will have to take GMAT which is a graduate admissions test.

I would like to know that is U of T offers Pharmacy course? What's the requirements for A-level student? If I cant meet the requirements, is U of T offers foundation? How much for the whole course? Thanks for ur reply which I really appreciate.

U of T does offer pharmacy courses but I believe that you have to undergo an undergraduate program first and after maybe like 1 year and a half, then you can apply for pharmacy. Acceptance into pharmacy I believe is based on your standing in the undergraduate program as well as your hopes and dreams.. they will interview you.. and also might have to take a test ..not based on material..but more of logic and human thinking?

Undergrad program I think you're looking at RM 60k..Pharmacy..not too sure but I can find out for you if you want.

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This post has been edited by -shopaholic-: Aug 23 2016, 12:02 PM

i'm an SPM leaver and thinking whether to take a pre U course first before going canada or go straight to canada (University of Winnipeg) with my SPM results. which would u recommend?

International students in America are not allowed to work off campus, unless its for an work study, internship or a co-op. After you graduate from an American University one has the chance to apply for OPT or optional practical training, which can be considered a one year visa to work in an American company earning American wages.

In my opinion, I study abroad not to see more Malaysians or Singaporeans (though seeing one once in a while is nice). I study abroad to experience another countries culture, hence the reason to why I don't get Malaysians going to Australia to study (It's more expensive too -.-). However, I do miss the Malaysian food .

All depends on you really. I suggest looking up the requirements for applying to the university of your choice and see if it is entirely necessary for you to go through a pre-U course or would it suffice for you to just take a SAT like test.

This post has been edited by alxa3021: Feb 21 2008, 04:25 PM

University of Waterloo is always one that everyone seems to miss out. Indeed, it has great potential to shoot up as one of the most respected universities. You might want to check it out.

All depends on you really. I suggest looking up the requirements for applying to the university of your choice and see if it is entirely necessary for you to go through a pre-U course or would it suffice for you to just take a SAT like test.

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yea. actually i've already applied to 2 Universities - Winnipeg and New Brunswick. They just require my SPM score and TOEFL. I'm taking my TOEFL soon and i'm submitting it after i get my results. What my dad says is that taking a pre U is only waste time when you can actually go straight to Canada. According to what i heard, 1st year Uni will go through what u learnt in Pre U, only that it is deeper. hope some of u can advice.

If you don't see Malaysians going to Australia to study, then you must be blind. Australian universities are saturated with Malaysians.

If you want to go to Canada, go to good schools. Otherwise, don't bother. Even Canadians do not apply to study at Winnipeg or New Brunswick, unless they grew up and stayed there throughout their lives. The academic standard is not worth your money, the location is god forsaken.

Also, if a university accepts students with just SPM, it speaks a lot on the university's academic standards and its desperation for foreign funds. Canadians only apply to university after 12 years of schooling, 13 years for those in Quebec. When you complete your SPM, you only have 11 years of schooling, SPM stuff is not quite like grade 12 but in some ways similar to grade 12.

To put it into perspective........grade 12->U0(freshman)->U1
for those in Quebec................grade 11->CEGEP(2 years)->U1
A-level, IB STPM....................SPM(grade 11)->A-level/IB/STPM(2 years)->U1.......usually U1 if you have enough advance credits.

Going straight to university without proper foundation is risky, in a good school, you will find it overwhelming, in a lousy school, it might be easier to pull through.

I would suggest that you do A-level, get the necessary grades and gain advance standing from a Canadian school. Your foundation would be likely better than than those who did their freshman courses in university.

This post has been edited by feynman: Feb 22 2008, 05:41 AM

You are an EU citizen?

You have a malaysian origin living in Europe? Are you an EU citizen?

My plan is to go 1st year there, then hopefully get got enough grades and transfer credits to a better University. what do u guys think?

If you are an EU citizen, you don't have to worry about finance. Also, the education there is second to none and it is definitely much better than what you would get in Malaysia.

Why would you want to do that when you can get the grades locally and then apply directly to a good school?

Cos then i would save money by not going pre U since i can go canada straight. feel free to share your views. Thanks

You would end up spending more in Canada, let alone saving money.

Assuming that you can get in with just SPM, you willl need to spend 4 years in Canada. If you do A-level or STPM, you might only spend 3 years.

No, he meant that he doesn't understand WHY Malaysians go to Aus and study... since it's full of Malaysians.

But let me tell you something. Meeting so-called other people from so-called other culture ain't as great and exciting as you make it out to be.

Hmmm...my mistake.

i don think so. As far as i know i would only need 3 years for a degree

Where did you get that piece of info? Undergraduate degrees in Canada take 4 years to complete, unless you did CEGEP, A-level, IB or any other 2 year program, whereby the duration would be 3 years if you have gained sufficient advance standing.

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Which campus??? Only St George counts. Scarborough and Misssi, hmmm not too sure about those two

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Added on February 27, 2008, 12:54 amEverytime I read the alumini magazine, graduates working in UK, OZ, States, Singapore etc.
Do you know that Singapore's current Auditor General is a Canadian graduate?? My late grandma was kept in a nursing home in Singapore. One of the doctor there that treated her got his medical degree from Canada

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Added on February 27, 2008, 1:09 amOh I forgot to mention the weather in Hogtown sucks. A blizzard can shuts down the city for a day or two. During summertime smog and my goodness the humidity
The downside to studying in Canada is strict limitation on foreign students on various programs. Medicine and Dentistry are off limits to foreign students. Business and Engineering have limited places for foreign students

This post has been edited by segamatboy: Feb 27 2008, 01:09 AM

i got my degree from a local Uni and i plan to get some work experience here before leaving to canada to pursue my masters in oil and gas related courses...

i would like to ask how long are graduates allowed to stay and work there upon completion of their course? is it possible for foreigners to get a job there especially in engineering?

thanks for any advice

Does it includes UK engineering degree ? .. Erm, what is the best university in Canada? Also, Is Toronto nearby US ?@@ sorry my geography sux

Erm, I see those drawbacks which you mention are quite significant. I heard that Canada looking for engineers and IT experts in the recent years. IF so, why do they still limits palces for foreign students? what programs are you referring to which only limited to locals ? can you list out some of it ? ..
Also, does canadians practice racism ? ..

Ya, Im planning to do as you too. However, I going to get UK engineering degree ( 3 years) and plan to go for either MSc or MBA in canada. I also wouldl ike to ask the same quite as him regarding about whether we are eligible to stay and work there upon graduation.

graduate can only work 1 yr after graduation. Will depend on the employers whether they want to apply work permit for you. Canada is generally cold for at least half a yr anywhere except vancouver. For someone who likes cold weather, it's a great place..

elloo... i m in anchorage now... might drop by canada 2 check out d edu there..

any1 knows how much does the post grad cost there? might wanna do it in canada if it is cheaper as compared to the states

thinking to migrate to Canada...

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This post has been edited by ngyitkenn: Mar 7 2014, 08:08 PM

Toronto is expensive to live in but you won't get bored. Lots of universities in smaller cities/towns do offer most of the engineering degrees. If you are looking at something uncommon like petroleum engineering and the likes, you won't have much choices. Otherwise, you will find everything in all competent universities.

Consider yourself advised. If all you do is study and don't mind living in small towns then it is ok to spend the next 4 years there. Don't rush into making a decision, life in Canada is not the same as in Malaysia. Shops close early and if you want to grab something to eat at night, it will be impossible to do so if you are living in a small town. You would also need to leave for the city during the Christmas break as everything in that town will be closed. If you want a thorough mix of nightlife and all, stick to the cities.

A-levels is good enough. If you are applying for a scholarship, then you will need recommendation letters and essays.

elloo... i m in anchorage now... might drop by canada 2 check out d edu there..

Better get a visa first. Malaysia passport holders are required to have a visa to visit or transit . 3 years ago a friend went to the States for a convention. After that he decided to go to Canada for a short holiday. He was was denied entry at Vancouver

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Added on July 22, 2008, 3:20 am
TS, which pre-u program did u use to apply to canada?
kiasu fella here will submit SAT & a-levels results

Most major Canadian universities will accept STPM or the Chinese Unified Exam and prove of English competency


This post has been edited by segamatboy: Jul 22 2008, 03:23 AM

i know.. .but dont know whether there's a canadian embassy in anchorage or not.. i will try 2 drop by there... any1 staying in vancouver? or the western side? can house me for a few days?

TS, can provide advise on post grad studies- MSc in Electrical Engineering? any Teaching assistantship or research assistantship open for application ?

I grad from Uni 4 years back, currently working as an engineer, plan to further studies .

which Uni is recommended and how is the job opportunity in canada for engineers .?

I already done my IELTS get an overall band score of 7. Post grad application doesnt need GRE test score. basically i am ready with the doc required including transcript...

How about doing MBA and chances to get the international internship or scholarship?

No one's mentioned McGill?
I considered going there. It's pretty highly ranked and the programs look pretty good.
And if I remember right, their fees is considerably less than U of T's too.

TS, may i know how is the job market in Canada?

is it hard to get a part time job if further studies there?

i thought of further my master studies there but i heard from frens tht a lot of jobless people there and its hard to maintain a job there. besides, due to inflation and exchange rate, i believe i need to work part time to cover some daily expenses...
please advise

Anyone in UBC?

@teddys_t

it's quite tedious to find a part time job in all canadian cities especially montreal. But it gets alot easier if you are able to converse in french. Job opportunities are quite easily founf in Vancouver and Ttoronto but for students of UBC, it's no point to work in a city 25kms from school

It really depends on what job you're looking for. If you deal with customers, then french is required. Otherwise, not knowing french is good enough to land yourself with a job. You can work for Quiznos without knowing french, all you do is make sandwiches, don't take orders and don't handle cash.

hey i plan to go bronte college and do grade 12 there, as a pre u program..
but can i apply to any american uni aswell? after doing grade 12 there?
currently using my IGCSE results to apply

I went to visit my bro in Canada last month and it was -40 degree celcius. How can you people withstand those temperatures? Even a polar bear would run away from that fridge. I seriously thought I was gonna die.

wait till u go alaska.. -40 is ntg...

neway... are students given work visa upon graduation?

Alaska would be -50 +? Would there even be any water?

Essentially right now, yes. Of course you do need to apply but it is rather straight forward and easy to get.

A side note - you're allowed to work on campus while you're studying. But you can also apply for a work permit to work off-campus before you graduate. I believe some internships are open to international students as well.

Here's more details on vis after graduating. I believe you have some time after graduation to find a job and once you secure an offer, you merely need to submit an application for the work permit. A common mistake is that employers need to do something but no, all you need them is that they provide with an offer and you make the visa application yourself without the employer.

http://www.canadavisa.com/post-graduation-...-in-canada.html

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Added on January 25, 2009, 5:41 amNot everywhere is like that! lol.

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Added on January 25, 2009, 5:50 amSorry for my delay in replies. I did not know the thread is still around!

The best engineering schools would be University of Waterloo and University of Toronto for the most part. These are the schools that are always being talked about and could land you a job in the States if you wish. Job opportunity right now is quite tricky as Canada follows the US. But I think if you're good, there should not be any problem - I myself can find a job. So I'm sure you can. Especially with a Msc.

I know at University of Toronto, they do automatically grant you teaching assistantship. Not sure if it's everywhere in Canada but as long as you are accepted, the school is guaranteed to give you minimum hours to teach and to earn some money. There are also other research scholarships to apply for.

It's a great place to do MBA as well. Some schools do partner with the top business schools in the US. But all in all, I think you get a great education because of your peers - they are top notch. I do think there are chances of international internships or scholarships. For example, there are plenty of international students at my school that get the opportunity to go over to the States for work. These companies come to the school to recruit so networking-wise I think is very good.

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Added on January 25, 2009, 5:54 amIf you're anywhere but Quebec, you can easily forget about the French. Toronto is 50% foreign-based so it's very diverse and a lot of people are probably going to be speaking English. I don't think it's hard to get a part time job. My friend from Singapore just got one on-campus through the school's job site so it's fairly easy if you're looking for it. If not, there's plenty of places to look.

Jobless ppl are getting more because the economy now is taking a downturn. Times are slightly tough now. In general, the jobless ppl are those that don't just want to work for lowly jobs. Some of them can be quite choosy I feel so if you're not overly choosy about what job to do, I think should be ok.

This post has been edited by Tereno: Jan 25 2009, 05:54 AM

nope, all ice.. in prudhoe bay.. its -55 i think... gila

might go 2 calgary 2 do more postgrad after i m done with my 1st post grad..

is it automatic to secure a working visa upon graduation like US?

Jobless ppl are getting more because the economy now is taking a downturn. Times are slightly tough now. In general, the jobless ppl are those that don't just want to work for lowly jobs. Some of them can be quite choosy I feel so if you're not overly choosy about what job to do, I think should be ok.

My oh my. You sound like an elite living in the ivory tower and have the good fortune of having daddy or mummy paying the bills.Do you honestly believe people can pay their monthly bills(esp their monthly house mortage or car loans) by working those 'lowly jobs'. Before the financial crisis struck, if I am not mistaken a person can only receive a mortgage loan of up to 3x his/her yearly income. A person earning $30/hr will earn approx $60k a year and the max home loan he can get is around$180k provide he doesn't have any outstanding debts. With average housing price in Toronto around $400k or more, please do the math and show us how a person can pay his/her monthly mortgage by working those lowly jobs that pays around $10-12 per hour
Are you implying Malaysians should not worry about losing their jobs because they can always go and work those type of jobs currently held by abang Indo and adik Bangla and still be able to pay the monthly bills?? Hope you are not from St George campus

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Added on January 26, 2009, 2:30 amSpend some time reading Canadian news Example. CBC.ca or Canoe.ca or Canada.com or globalnational.com
Ontario is becoming part of North America rust belt. Even red hot Alberta is heading for the dumps.You can read it on today www.edmontonsun.com (sunday Jan 25 edition)
Minimum wage jobs..plenty


TS, may i know how is the job market in Canada?



This post has been edited by segamatboy: Jan 26 2009, 02:30 AM

Or you can move to Quebec where things are shittier but cheaper

Hm. I don't live in an ivory tower.. I live well far away from campus and it takes me an hour everyday. But I have had the opportunity to work in school part time. The average housing price in Toronto at $400k - where do you get that? Because I for one, am not recommending anyone to stay right at the core. There are condos and houses that cost millions. For $180k you can get a condo at the adjacent cities and commute to Toronto if you wish. While it might be something small, it is something that you can begin with and work your way up. Something like living in PJ and going to school in KL. Even houses in PJ are already RM 300k if I remember right. Those lowly jobs at $10-$12 per hour are obviously not enough to pay for a mortgage by a single person. People are talking about supplementing rent and part of their education with part time jobs. Rental in Toronto is high but there are ways that plenty of students survive just for the sake of education and a part time job is one of them.

anyone know bronte college in canada? whether its a very reputable college?
any advice?

I have a friend who study at the Canada.all i must say that is Canada is a very good place.

LOL where were you? even yellowknife rarely get temps below 30. But seriously, the world climate is going strange these days.

Lol if there's ice there's water. In Alaska, they collected ice cubes from the mountains or from the snow, heat it and purify, there goes the water.

And where where you??? Alberta Saskatchewan and Manitoba were in a deep freeze for almost a month in December. Nighttime temp were in the mid to low -30s.And yes windchill temp were in the -40s for 3 frigging weeks

if UoT is so big, wouldn't it be hard for the lecturers to control?

Huh???? Lu kong simi leh??? Control what??

Hey anyone know columbia international college? i might head there to do grade12. on august

I was in Lethbridge. And seriously, the weather there is no joke. I met a Canadian there and he even joked not to pee as it'll instantly turn to solid.

do anyone know the fee to study physiotheraphy in canada? if anyone know pls reply me as fast as possible.thk

hey all,i planned to take up econs/commerce for undergraduate.For the unis I gonna apply to toronto, western ontario and mcmaster, are these unis good on those stuff that i wanna study, need some advice and in toronto, 4 years gonna cost 400k?

oh, and we need to send the pse to every uni via courier?kinda confused on the application procedures.

thx in advance. =D

Hey. I'm going canada soon, in like 3 months. any advice? wht to bring .. or anything? n any advice on the college call columbia international college?

Hi all,
I've just received my admission letter for Simon Fraser University, I'm waiting on University of British Columbia and University of Victoria, all three West Coast universities (sent both applications late, will receive the results probably around May)

I'll probably get into UVic and maybe just maybe UBC (I reckon I've a good shot). I know in terms of international recognition, UBC wins hands down, but I'd like to seek your opinions regarding this matter. I intend to pursue a degree in Commerce and have heard good things about UBC's Sauder School of Business and SFU's co-op program. Any comments on both the programs? My student advisor's opinion was rather skewered towards SFU. She thinks UBC's a rather snotty institute

My concern would be the tuition cost, UBC's total cost is $10k more expensive compared to SFU's ($ 24k approximate). Is the school's recognition worth the extra money? (I hope to go to grad school in the future)
I'm the eldest kid with 2 more younger siblings, don't really want to use up all my mom's $$

And umm how's the weather over at Vancouver?

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Added on April 5, 2009, 10:41 amAnyone please...
the question simplified,

uni's reputation vs cost

with the intention of going to grad school
Which would you choose?

This post has been edited by Jyou: Apr 5 2009, 10:41 AM

hmmm y so slow here ya?

Cause there aren't many Malaysian peeps there ...
Btw chika138 are you studying there?

nope i'm not
though there's very slight chance i might be going there

Canada has 3 types of universities...medical-doctoral, comprehensive and strictly undergrad.. University of a Billion Chinamen wins hands down in reputation over UVic and SFU is because UBC is a medical-doctoral university. UVic and SFU are comprehensive universities, ie limited grad and post grad courses and are non medical.
You student adviser maybe a fan of X-files. If you are a fan of the old X-files series, do you know one of SFU building is used as FBI's HQ??? Google 'Xfiles+Simon Fraser university" and the truth is out there:-0

Lol thought you were cause you bumped up this dead thread...


Lol I posted the above in March... (update: just received UVic's offer yesterday)
Yeap I'm aware of that. But in terms of academic quality, is there a wide difference between a medical-doctoral institute and a comprehensive one?
I checked the Maclean's rankings (not a very good one but its one of the few that ranks Canadian universities...) and SFU & UVic are ranked quite well, both tied for first I think (or 1st & 2nd) under the comprehensive universities category. UBC is of course ranked in the medical-doctorate one.
Since I'm not planning to pursue anything medically related, would either SFU & UVic do? I spoke to a lady at the Canadian embassy and she said UBC charges exorbitant international fees ...

Btw, lol yeah read about the SFU-XFiles connection on SFU's wikipedia page, man that's cool!



This post has been edited by Jyou: May 16 2009, 11:39 PM

HAHAHAH!!! UBC-University of Billion Chinese, University of Beautiful Chicks or some of the msians call it, Untuk Budak Cina. But tbh, SFU has tonnes of asians too... arghh,.. its van city fgs, 50% of the population are fricken ASIANS!!! swear to god if u ever step foot on Richmond or Burnaby.. its like freakin beijing or hk city!!

agreed. Sometimes it's good to see azns there, but when it's Van city it becomes a lil bit ridiculous when you see those asians there, whites=minority!

It's not really ridiculous, ya i know walking in some areas like Richmond and Burnaby you see lotsa asians but still it still has a very distinct ang moh feel!



How was the results? And heck no, UBC is a way better university for Commerce.
Weather in Vancouver rocks! rain rain and rain much! haha but during summer it will get really dry, generally it's great, neither too cold nor too hot.

hmmm, i wouldn't say it's useless. my brother studied civil engineering in Canada and he graduated and came back to KL to work at a consulting firm. afaik when you are a practicing engineer in Malaysia, you will be following British codes, those BSI or something... maybe what you learn is essentially the same but codes you need to follow accordingly where you work. and these codes of practice can change and vary from time to time.

This post has been edited by sE_vIxEn: Jun 18 2009, 01:29 AM

No lah......the guy you are replying too is useless. Don't even know how to use Google. A quick search using Google and found two guys from the little red dot
Lim Soo Ping..Singapore's Auditor General
Guaning Su... NTU's president
Where did they get their eng education from?


This post has been edited by segamatboy: Jun 18 2009, 03:00 AM

This thread is kinda old.

Candian Education Centre.
http://www.studycanada.ca/malaysia/index.htm


taken this from a different forum. Other views on Canadian Uni

McGill University
Location: Montreal, Quebec
GOOD: Law, Medicine, Business, Economics

University of Alberta
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
GOOD: Engineering, Pharmacy, Life Sciences

University of British Columbia
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
GOOD: Sauder Business School (Undergrad, MBA)

University of Toronto
Location: Toronto, Ontario
GOOD: Engineering, Rotman Business School

University of Western Ontario
Location: London, Ontario
GOOD: Richard Ivey School of Business

York University
Location: Toronto, Ontario
GOOD: Schulich School of Business (Undergrad, MBA)

University of Waterloo
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
GOOD: Maths, Computer Science (Undergrad, Masters), Actuarial science
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McGill University - also good for Engineering and one of the top in the world for Business.

University of Western Ontario - also very good for Engineering, Medicine, Education and top
in Canada for Business and one of the top in the world for
Business.

York University - also top for Fine Arts, Humanities, Law and Science. They designed the
Space Shuttle Robotic Arm. Very good Business program.

McMaster University - Good in Engineering, Medicine and Business.

Queens University - Good in Engineering and Business.
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FYI: To those referring to Macleans check these link out
http://economics.ca/cgi/jab?journal=cpp&vi...PPv31n3p231.pdf
http://www.csse.ca/CJE/Articles/FullText/C...JE25-4-page.pdf
http://chronicle.com/news/article/3394/mcg...ued-by-macleans

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NEW! Work Regulations in Canada

Government of Canada introduces changes to work permits for international students, making Canada more attractive for skilled individuals

Vancouver, April 21, 2008 — The Honourable Diane Finley, Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, today announced changes to work permits for international students who graduate from eligible programs at certain Canadian post-secondary institutions, making it easier to attract foreign students to Canada.

Effective immediately, and for the first time, these international students would be able to obtain an open work permit under the Post-Graduation Work Permit Program, with no restrictions on the type of employment and no requirement for a job offer. In addition, the duration of the work permit has been extended to three years across the country. Previously, the program only allowed international students to work for one or two years, depending on location.

"The Government of Canada wants more foreign students to choose Canada and we want to help them succeed," said Minister Finley. "Open and longer work permits provide international students with more opportunities for Canadian work experience and skills development. This will, in turn, help make Canada a destination of choice, and help us keep international students already studying in Canada."

The increased flexibility offered by the expanded program will benefit graduates and employers alike as the program will help international students get important work experience while responding to Canada’s labour market needs. Canada will benefit in the long run as the professional experience gained will help graduates meet the requirements to stay permanently in Canada.

"As we move toward the implementation of the Canadian Experience Class, these changes will help create a pool of individuals who, with work experience, will find it easier to apply to immigrate to Canada," added Minister Finley. "Our ability to retain international graduates with Canadian qualifications, work experience and familiarity with Canadian society, will help increase our competitiveness and benefit Canada as a whole."

The Post-Graduation Work Permit Program allows students who have graduated from an eligible program at a post-secondary institution to gain valuable Canadian work experience. Preliminary 2007 data indicate that 63,673 international students came to Canada that year, representing a 4.6 percent increase over the previous year.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 12 2009, 09:36 PM

No. McGill is not good for business, certainly not economics. Concordia's John Molson School of Business and HEC Montreal are the better ones.

Economics at McGill is a joke, don't bother if you are thinking of an economics degree or doing anything serious in economics after that.

thanx! didn't know Desautels is that bad, those survey by FT, Bizweek, The Economist Intell only looked at their MBA program. undergrad not as good as MBA or both just as bad?

anyway, I think when ppl saw Robert Alexander Mundell 1999 Nobel prize Econ winner, he/she assumed at McGill Econ is good or maybe at research level. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mundell

Guess many missed this report.
http://www.corporateknights.ca/special-rep...hools-2009.html
Seem like U are base off in Montreal. Can share more info regarding Unis in Quebec?

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 12 2009, 10:30 PM

Hello! Thought this thread was dead a long time ago.

Yes, I heard that McGill's economics department/ B-school isn't that good, read it in a Canadian forum, students said that Concordia a nearby university has better ties to the business world, don't know how true this is, just passing on what I read.

I'm transferring to Simon Fraser's B-school this Fall, leaving end of August, how's the weather there?
I going there with some clothes and my trusty laptop, getting my winter gear as recommended by everyone, also got a US travel visa (someone told me it would be useful and I applied for it and got it) anymore pre-departure tips?

The ranking list above, I thought York's Schulich is the top B-school in Canada... the ranking seems a little off. And wow didn't know Waterloo had a B-school, it must be pretty new as they didn't have one previously.

The MBA is better off than the undergrad commerce program. But as a whole, when we compare it to other Canadian schools, it's not the best place to get your money's worth.

While there are some capable professors both then and now, it somehow doesn't translate into a good economics program. Course selection is limited, mathematics is not emphasized even in the honours program. It's just a big silly make busy program.

There are only 3 english universities in Quebec. Most would only consider 2, Concordia and McGill.

Thank you for the heads up!
No wonder the ppl I know go McGill for their Sci/Engineering program.

if 1 is going to Canada to study Biz and wish to double major. Which Uni would U recommend?
I know UBC-Sauder is extremely hard to double major due to their system.
Care to give your 2cents?

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Added on August 13, 2009, 1:50 am

if U come across that, do post a link to it!

I thought UWO-Ivy will be part of the list or UT-Rotman.


This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 13 2009, 01:50 AM

I wouldn't know.

U of T or maybe Queen's?

Came across these threads ages ago but manage to find them again through Google.

McGill vs Concordia

Concordia JMSB or McGill for B-School

Its a forum and the replies are from students there, lots of flaming going on.
But generally, the comments are consistent in that Concordia is good for undergrad but McGill has got more world recognition, but then again, McGill is the older institute and yea their sciences are pretty good, friend transferring there for engineering.

I think UWO-Ivy and UT-Rotman are in the MBA list
The list you posted are the top 10 for undergrad business programs.



This post has been edited by Jyou: Aug 13 2009, 07:47 AM

thanx for the thread, I also come across afew threads like these here. Didn't know there is Big 3 Bschool.
seem like alot of canadian here chiming in.
http://forums.studentawards.com/yaf_postst...uld-you-go.aspx

interesting thread on how students would ranking Canadian Bschool
http://forums.studentawards.com/yaf_postst...is-ranking.aspx

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 13 2009, 09:23 AM

guys,

whats the average price for MBA in a decent business school in Canada?

Not cheap. If you're looking at Queen's or Rotman. We're looking at $60 for fees. The only cheap ones that I know are McGill and Concordia, roughly around $20k+.

If you learn french and get a CSQ, you can try to become a Quebec resident. With that you pay Quebec rates. $6k inclusive is sufficient for an MBA from JMBS.

Hmm... Mcgill numbers a little off.. CND$24K+ a yr.. 2yrs (4 term or 20mth).. around CND$48K+ for fees. Cheaper by ~CND$10-20K compared to Rotman.
I know a PRC study in Quebec for a term then apply for CSQ. Got it and following yr paying Quebec rates.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 14 2009, 10:07 AM

Right. There you go.

take A levels or STPM if you want to go to University of British Columbia. It's a great university!

care to share how great?
and your experience!

Tereno how did you get to study in that university? Scholarship?

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Added on August 30, 2009, 1:11 amOkay, honestly I didn't go there but my friend did! It's a great university and Vancouver is a really nice place to live! I will want to go there for Chemistry or something.

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Added on August 30, 2009, 1:17 am
Vancouver is nice!! and trust me it's worth to go to UBC

This post has been edited by wnar: Aug 30 2009, 01:17 AM

or perhaps it's better to have your friend here to do the talking?
we need more elaboration on how good it is

what else do they require besides Alevel results? Do they need TOEFL/SAT?

Most Canadian Uni do not require SAT.
just TOEFL or IELTS, besides the usual A levels or STPM.
which Uni do U have in mind? UBC?

the req are spelled out pretty clearly here
https://you.ubc.ca/ubc/vancouver/intlpostse...pageID=1213#gar

a walk to CEC is helpful if U can access them
http://www.studycanada.ca/malaysia/index.htm
Canadian Education Centre (CEC)
Suite 18.03, 18th Floor
Wisma MCA
163 Jalan Ampang
50450 Kuala Lumpur
Malaysia
Tel: (03) 2162 2901
Fax: (03) 2162 2982
Email: ecm@tm.net.my

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 6 2009, 01:18 AM