U of T is very big.

Cheaper..........No Patriot Act.

JPA sends students to Canada for engineering.......

The fees are like CAD20k per year. If you want to go to Canada, you should have done courses like A-level, STPM, CPU, SAM etc. The foundation course that you are taking is unlikely to be recognised.

If you don't see Malaysians going to Australia to study, then you must be blind. Australian universities are saturated with Malaysians.

If you want to go to Canada, go to good schools. Otherwise, don't bother. Even Canadians do not apply to study at Winnipeg or New Brunswick, unless they grew up and stayed there throughout their lives. The academic standard is not worth your money, the location is god forsaken.

Also, if a university accepts students with just SPM, it speaks a lot on the university's academic standards and its desperation for foreign funds. Canadians only apply to university after 12 years of schooling, 13 years for those in Quebec. When you complete your SPM, you only have 11 years of schooling, SPM stuff is not quite like grade 12 but in some ways similar to grade 12.

To put it into perspective........grade 12->U0(freshman)->U1
for those in Quebec................grade 11->CEGEP(2 years)->U1
A-level, IB STPM....................SPM(grade 11)->A-level/IB/STPM(2 years)->U1.......usually U1 if you have enough advance credits.

Going straight to university without proper foundation is risky, in a good school, you will find it overwhelming, in a lousy school, it might be easier to pull through.

I would suggest that you do A-level, get the necessary grades and gain advance standing from a Canadian school. Your foundation would be likely better than than those who did their freshman courses in university.

This post has been edited by feynman: Feb 22 2008, 05:41 AM

You are an EU citizen?

You have a malaysian origin living in Europe? Are you an EU citizen?

If you are an EU citizen, you don't have to worry about finance. Also, the education there is second to none and it is definitely much better than what you would get in Malaysia.

Why would you want to do that when you can get the grades locally and then apply directly to a good school?

You would end up spending more in Canada, let alone saving money.

Assuming that you can get in with just SPM, you willl need to spend 4 years in Canada. If you do A-level or STPM, you might only spend 3 years.

Hmmm...my mistake.

Where did you get that piece of info? Undergraduate degrees in Canada take 4 years to complete, unless you did CEGEP, A-level, IB or any other 2 year program, whereby the duration would be 3 years if you have gained sufficient advance standing.

Toronto is expensive to live in but you won't get bored. Lots of universities in smaller cities/towns do offer most of the engineering degrees. If you are looking at something uncommon like petroleum engineering and the likes, you won't have much choices. Otherwise, you will find everything in all competent universities.

Consider yourself advised. If all you do is study and don't mind living in small towns then it is ok to spend the next 4 years there. Don't rush into making a decision, life in Canada is not the same as in Malaysia. Shops close early and if you want to grab something to eat at night, it will be impossible to do so if you are living in a small town. You would also need to leave for the city during the Christmas break as everything in that town will be closed. If you want a thorough mix of nightlife and all, stick to the cities.

A-levels is good enough. If you are applying for a scholarship, then you will need recommendation letters and essays.

It really depends on what job you're looking for. If you deal with customers, then french is required. Otherwise, not knowing french is good enough to land yourself with a job. You can work for Quiznos without knowing french, all you do is make sandwiches, don't take orders and don't handle cash.

Or you can move to Quebec where things are shittier but cheaper

No. McGill is not good for business, certainly not economics. Concordia's John Molson School of Business and HEC Montreal are the better ones.

Economics at McGill is a joke, don't bother if you are thinking of an economics degree or doing anything serious in economics after that.

The MBA is better off than the undergrad commerce program. But as a whole, when we compare it to other Canadian schools, it's not the best place to get your money's worth.

While there are some capable professors both then and now, it somehow doesn't translate into a good economics program. Course selection is limited, mathematics is not emphasized even in the honours program. It's just a big silly make busy program.

There are only 3 english universities in Quebec. Most would only consider 2, Concordia and McGill.

I wouldn't know.

U of T or maybe Queen's?

Not cheap. If you're looking at Queen's or Rotman. We're looking at $60 for fees. The only cheap ones that I know are McGill and Concordia, roughly around $20k+.

If you learn french and get a CSQ, you can try to become a Quebec resident. With that you pay Quebec rates. $6k inclusive is sufficient for an MBA from JMBS.

Right. There you go.

You can if you claim your birthright. Who said you can't return? All you need is pre-u.

Just do a pre-u.....CPU, SAM, A-level.