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AVFAN
post Mar 29 2017, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 29 2017, 11:33 AM)
I wonder how much money is actually being pumped in for that...Many such projects just provide technical expertise...Money comes from local investors...
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if u read the bloomberg article i just posted, it says it all.
bnm basically killed NDF's, i.e. foreign investors hedging means.

who wants to bring in foreign money to invest and unable to hedge it?!

ok, bnm now says they may bring it back, somehow, some way.

call it kelam kabut or just too many holes not enough covers...



that fact is if u suck, maul or even rape an economy over decades, there is no easy way out like goons like to think.

the next couple of decades will be painful - for the young who will be burdened by debt and more debt and the old who keep losing purchasing power with their savings/pensions.

it's a zero sum game - some people took it, some will pay for it.

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post Mar 29 2017, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Mar 29 2017, 02:41 PM)
The said "Good News" are considered as standard government propoganda. Nobody believes in what those 'goons' are mentioning. They can go on yapping about how good we are doing, how well the economy is but the problem is people are not buying their shit. Talk about having zero credibility. Action must speak louder than words.
You dont expect foreign investors to bring in their money after hearing so much about here. People are just staying away. Period.
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hmm...

i m not so sure about that.

if u read other sections, other threads, there r plenty of these goons trapped in a idiotically superior mindset - can steal, suck and plunder with no consequence since the chosen ones hv a right to that.

and these r the ones who keep m01 and thieves in power.

as if the world is theirs to reap.
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post Mar 29 2017, 07:31 PM

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can't confirm but i think sgd/rm just hit a new high of 3.17153.


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post Mar 29 2017, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 29 2017, 07:32 PM)
S*it bangwall.gif  ranting.gif
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u u keep waiting... why?!!!
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post Mar 29 2017, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 29 2017, 11:21 PM)
We shall see. With GE coming, RM still got chance. After GE, then..
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ge14 can be held as late as june 2018, >1 year from now.

u or your parents may lose another 5% by then.

think again.



"i wait until xyz, then i buy" is not a good way.

if u REALLY want to buy, better "buy 1/2 now, buy 1/2 if it gets better".

unless, of course, u really do not actually want to buy, just thinking only...

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post Apr 4 2017, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Apr 4 2017, 08:16 AM)
Let's size up our currency depreciation against other developing countries. Let's compare respectable countries like BRICS as example :

5 year change in % against USD :

Brazil -70%
Russia -90%
India -25%
China -9%
South Africa -74%


Malaysia -45%

Malaysia cannot escape too. 3 out of 5 BRICS countries are worse. Don't forget BRICS were riding high and full of hope before USD surged 2-3 years ago.

What has our currency become into ? Bad. Just like many other developing countries. It will take a long time to gain back investors' confidence before they start appreciate again
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of the 5, 3 of mean little since they do not have much trade with msia.

only china and india are impt.

msia top trading partners are, according to wiki:

Singapore 13.6%
China 12.6%
Japan 11.8%
United States 8.7%
Thailand 5.4%
Hong Kong 4.3%
India 4.2%
Australia 4.1% (2012 est.)

whether 5 years or 3 years or 1 year, RM lost big time to ALL of them.


latest..

.. south african rand becoming JUNK.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/03/rand-tumble...ca-to-junk.html

.. SGD about to hit new high against RM.

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post Apr 4 2017, 10:27 AM

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after 144bil with china, another 157bil with india.

u wud think waa... we are so rich... RM sure shoot thru the roof.

but when?

where is the CASH?

is it coming in or going out? biggrin.gif

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-rm157-billion/


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post Apr 4 2017, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Apr 4 2017, 02:15 PM)
Let's see if such arguments surface in the near future or not  biggrin.gif
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u can be sure some lame menteli will say, "be happy, better than mighty russia, brazil or south africa".

but mum on the real trading partners - china, thailand, singapore, oz, etc. tongue.gif


really, with all the debt mounting and more to come, how can it ever strengthen?

even these farmers are now in huge debt. cpo hasn't been that bad, has it?

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Felda settlers owe almost RM5b in various debts
https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/377832#ixzz4dBUvxawe


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post Apr 5 2017, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 4 2017, 07:07 PM)
That is what Im still unhappy about. If our RM lose big time to SGD, USD, HKD, AUD, then I cant say anything. But losing big time to other 3rd world countries like Thailand, Indonesia, India and even Bangladesh? What the heck????
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it's been a few months now since bnm crawlpegged at 4.45 to the $.

the $ is not always as mighty as it can be.

so, as the $ softens and the peg stays, the rm will lose against others.

it appears to me bnm/gomen is quite happy with a weak rm, may even want to see it even weaker.

there isn't any earthshaking thing shaping up to strengthen the rm at all.

so, the rm stays weak all round.

over time, the full effects will be felt and entrenched with all goods and services, local or imported as the biz community start raising prices to the full to keep margins and profits intact.

imo, our standard of living has been permanently downgraded.


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post Apr 5 2017, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 5 2017, 11:05 AM)
Man are you serious?  shakehead.gif

The Biz community cant simply start raising prices. Consumers wont be able to afford and this will affect sales.
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then comes part2... Some close down, some continue. Loss of jobs, more br1m, more debt.
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post Apr 5 2017, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 5 2017, 02:53 PM)
But we will lose out even more at other areas.  shakehead.gif
You have got that right. A lot of said property investors @ "flippers" are now in trouble including my friends. The props they bought 2- 3 years ago are being VP'ed now and they are having a hard time to sell or rent it out. Because of too many properties to pay for each month, almost all of them are feeling the heat now.  whistling.gif
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U remember there was a time, flippers were screaming even foreigners are buying.

Those foreign buyers now hit with a triple combo...

... hard to sell; no profit or loss; fx loss.
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post Apr 5 2017, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 5 2017, 05:07 PM)
The beginning of the End? I like that.... Well, there are definately risks in every investment we are undertaking. Flippers just have to bit the bullets this round after all the sweets that have been reaped previously.
I dont think foreign buyers will be hit hard. They have bought these properties by cash anyway. Unless they are hard hit for cash, there is no reason for them to let go of the props right now no?
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Cannot assume all foreign buyers are filthy rich.

Some were ill informed, or simply misled, maybe greedy.

Some of them will be hit, burned even.

And nobody likes losing wealth.

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post Apr 5 2017, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 5 2017, 06:04 PM)
I notice property prices are mellowing down too. Seems like there more 'motivated' sellers on the market right now. Cash is king. Save up your money guys and wait for the opportunity. Cant invest overseas because of the low Rm? No problem.
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Only developers are still calling buy now.

Housing assocs, banks see a very weak prop sector coming.

Even menteli is telling people to rent, not buy.. well.. he knows peoples money is squeezeed like F.

NPLs, yet to see.

Anyone with a prop to,sell now will know, the rest is all hot air.
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post Apr 5 2017, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 5 2017, 03:30 PM)
Yeah,.. I'm having this thoughts too,... I think the govt is intentional in 'making the RM weak', perhaps to encourage more investors and parties to come into Msia. There is no plan for them to strengthen the RM. Those elites who have lots of foreign currencies would have escaped this 'trap'.

If just starting to convert out now,... it'll be very painful.
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A weak RM works wonders for gomen while peoples income and savings get thrashed.

So, we got to see from diff perspectives.

Which is why, at the back of my mind, letting it slide or devalue to 5.0 may be perfect for the ones in power.

Now, just my thought.., dun quote me. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 6 2017, 10:54 AM

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sdg... watch apr 13-14.

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If the "extended period" wording was dropped, Goh said that would be a hawkish signal, likely sending the Singapore dollar's nominal effective exchange rate (NEER) higher.
But he added that it was premature to expect that hawkish tilt.
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Ling also noted that markets don't appear willing to fully price in another two rate hikes from the U.S. Federal Reserve, likely keeping Singapore rates subdued as well.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/05/singapores-...-time-soon.html

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post Apr 13 2017, 10:18 AM

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MAS says no change to monetary policy, in line with expectations
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/busine...ns/3671770.html

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post Apr 13 2017, 10:42 AM

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trump comment on $ sent it falling.

the pegged RM rm follows.

so, SGD, AUD, BAHT RMB all rising against RM.

good luck! tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2017, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 13 2017, 06:46 PM)
SGD was at low 3.15 two days ago... but now back to 3.162 already.  doh.gif
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sg's mas stayed put, did nothing. so... biz as usual.

trump visiting china said "$ too strong"... markets react, $ dived.

but.. not total market think trump can drive the $ down just like that.

and there's the fed with plans to keep hiking rates.

so... opposing forces at work... we dun know how that will work out, still early days, never ending story...!

$ is not falling anymore now.

so, we'll see what we will see.

whatever it is... we know... SGD will be fine... RM will go nowhere with all the sick politics and zero excitement economy.
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post Apr 13 2017, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 13 2017, 09:10 PM)
U kept me in hope during the first few paragraphs, but in the end..  shakehead.gif
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i really do not know what is "hope" for you, but i am surprised that r u surprised by what's going on!
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post Apr 13 2017, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 13 2017, 10:18 PM)
Im not surprised by what is going on... but like all, we hope for things to turn better, even though we knownits not possible. Thought it would be wicked to wish for war, but war could drive oil prices up which will drive the RM up as well.
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that is neither a desired or permanent route for a currency to strengthen.

moreover, if oil prices return to $80 or so, inflation will go thru the roof.

more pressure on the RM.

msia is a minor net exporter, will get hammered more than benefit from it.




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