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post Aug 3 2021, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Hilarion @ Aug 3 2021, 01:46 PM)
Wanna ask, AMD Radeon cards no ‘value’ in the second-hand market?

I’m trying to offload my 6800XT at the retail price that I purchased but seems like no takers 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Presume you bought it at high price (scalper price)? 6800XT launch price was RM3,899.
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post Aug 11 2021, 12:47 AM

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If HW Unboxed's Steve thinks a Radeon card is rather bad... it means it truly is quite abysmal.
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post Aug 11 2021, 03:26 PM

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6600XT really is a stupid card.

It's a PS5 GPU (mostly) that costs more than PS5 and is just as equally unavailable, yet performs worse than the console.
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post Aug 16 2021, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Aug 11 2021, 12:47 AM)


If HW Unboxed's Steve thinks a Radeon card is rather bad... it means it truly is quite abysmal.
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To be fair though, the negative reception of the 6600XT ironically becomes the best value card out there because very few people will buy it, and it'll end up as one of the few cards you can buy at non-inflated prices, at least in some markets sweat.gif
The pricing is bad that's for sure, but it will soon sell out nonetheless, because the alternatives are much more expensive or just straight up unavailable sweat.gif
Quite a few retailers are also reporting good stocks too, so there's that icon_idea.gif

Sure the 3060/Ti is better value-wise, but there's no point comparing them if getting those cards at MSRP (or close to the MSRP) is akin to finding a unicorn sweat.gif

You have things like the EU market where the 6600XT is significantly cheaper than the 3060 (or the 3060Ti), and it's faster too:
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The biggest disappointment IMHO is that AMD has crippled the memory subsystem of the card, i.e. the card only has a physical x8 link and a reduced Infinity Cache size. Had AMD didn't cripple the memory subsystem completely it would have been a decent performing card sweat.gif

Whether AMD can keep up with the demand however is another story, but I don't hold my hopes up considering the crypto market has just boomed and the chip shortage are seeing no signs of recovery sweat.gif
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post Aug 16 2021, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 11 2021, 03:26 PM)
6600XT really is a stupid card.

It's a PS5 GPU (mostly) that costs more than PS5 and is just as equally unavailable, yet performs worse than the console.
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Well even if AMD prices the card competitively, it doesn't really matter anyway because it'll end up in the retail market at vastly inflated prices sweat.gif
...and people will buy it anyway because well the GPU market is completely upended by the chip shortage and the mining boom sweat.gif

The counterintuitive thing is that the card's pricing and availability is actually decent compared to the alternatives because of low demand caused by the negative reception of the card laugh.gif

IMHO this GPU generation starts to feel like a lost generation in the GPU history because of the prolonged availability issues of the card - we could have seen some much needed competition in the GPU market, especially the high end of the spectrum (which AMD sorely needs, after they left the high end market several years ago), now it's became a battle of which company can produce enough cards to cope with the demand, no matter how bad the pricing is sweat.gif

I think those who are interested in PC gaming should come back in 2022 (optimistically), or realistically, 2023 sweat.gif

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post Aug 16 2021, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Aug 16 2021, 12:22 AM)
To be fair though, the negative reception of the 6600XT ironically becomes the best value card out there because very few people will buy it, and it'll end up as one of the few cards you can buy at non-inflated prices, at least in some markets sweat.gif
The pricing is bad that's for sure, but it will soon sell out nonetheless, because the alternatives are much more expensive or just straight up unavailable sweat.gif
Quite a few retailers are also reporting good stocks too, so there's that icon_idea.gif

Sure the 3060/Ti is better value-wise, but there's no point comparing them if getting those cards at MSRP (or close to the MSRP) is akin to finding a unicorn sweat.gif

You have things like the EU market where the 6600XT is significantly cheaper than the 3060 (or the 3060Ti), and it's faster too:
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The biggest disappointment IMHO is that AMD has crippled the memory subsystem of the card, i.e. the card only has a physical x8 link and a reduced Infinity Cache size.  Had AMD didn't cripple the memory subsystem completely it would have been a decent performing card sweat.gif

Whether AMD can keep up with the demand however is another story, but I don't hold my hopes up considering the crypto market has just boomed and the chip shortage are seeing no signs of recovery sweat.gif
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What I suspect: the 6600XT die was originally meant to be a 5500XT replacement. It shares the same x8 PCIe lane design and a 128bit memory bus, after all. Also, CU count is almost identical to the 6700XT.

It looks like AMD found that the Navi 22 die has so few defects that they probably canned any plans of releasing a cut down 32CU variant, and redesigned Navi 23 to have more CUs instead.

As for EU pricing - IIRC they always seem to have more competitive prices for Radeons there vs GeForce cards.

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post Aug 29 2021, 01:04 PM

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so would anyone trade a 6600xt for a 1080Ti?
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post Aug 31 2021, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Hilarion @ Aug 3 2021, 01:46 PM)
Wanna ask, AMD Radeon cards no ‘value’ in the second-hand market?

I’m trying to offload my 6800XT at the retail price that I purchased but seems like no takers 🤷🏻‍♂️
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They do have value in the 2nd hand market but no one going to buy 2nd hand card at retail price.
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QUOTE(Hilarion @ Aug 3 2021, 01:46 PM)
Wanna ask, AMD Radeon cards no ‘value’ in the second-hand market?

I’m trying to offload my 6800XT at the retail price that I purchased but seems like no takers 🤷🏻‍♂️
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post Sep 18 2021, 02:28 AM

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I see alot of 6900 cards going for rm7k to rm8k. Is this current price range? Like just rm100 extra compared to 6800.
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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Sep 18 2021, 02:28 AM)
I see alot of 6900 cards going for rm7k to rm8k. Is this current price range? Like just rm100 extra compared to 6800.
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You can consult the benchmark here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH7vQmitc_M

In average, the FPS difference between RX 6900XT and RX 6800 XT, is between 5-10 fps, 13 fps in Doom Eternal, all games tested at 4k resolution and maximum graphic details.
Not worth the extra MYR 1000 difference, which can be used for dating or other investment.

I have seen RX 6800 XT priced at MYR 5.3k, whereas the RX 6900 XT is being sold for MYR 7.2k.

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post Sep 21 2021, 11:22 PM

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Is AMD still making the hottest graphic cards in the market? I didn't follow for a long time.














* hottest in term of max temperature when gaming. tongue.gif
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post Sep 28 2021, 02:37 PM

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Dear sifus, i have my old rig, as such

Intel® Core™ i5-2500K Processor (6M Cache, 3.30 GHz) overclocked to 4.8 GHz | P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 with PCI Express 3.0 | 24X LG DVDRW | 80GB Intel 320 SSD | Enthusiast SeriesTX650W PSU | Cooler Master 690 II Advanced | 8GB G.Skill Sniper 1600 CL9 8GB 1.25V | 2X SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s | XSPC RASA RS240

I normally ise it for work and movies, got a new hd tv...was suddenly had the interest of playing games like the good old days.. which model of gpu that would fit my mobo to play current AAA games? Thanks in advance sifus.

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post Sep 29 2021, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(stylez jazz @ Sep 28 2021, 02:37 PM)
Dear sifus, i have my old rig, as such

Intel® Core™ i5-2500K Processor (6M Cache, 3.30 GHz) overclocked to 4.8 GHz | P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 with PCI Express 3.0 | 24X LG DVDRW | 80GB Intel 320 SSD | Enthusiast SeriesTX650W PSU | Cooler Master 690 II Advanced | 8GB G.Skill Sniper 1600 CL9 8GB 1.25V | 2X SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s | XSPC RASA RS240

I normally ise it for work and movies, got a new hd tv...was suddenly had the interest of playing games like the good old days.. which model of gpu that would fit my mobo to play current AAA games? Thanks in advance sifus.
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u got giant case, can fit anything tongue.gif
I had a 12" HG6950, then a 13" R9 290 in my Sandy Bridge i5 system and much smaller CM HAF912 case laugh.gif
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post Oct 14 2021, 09:56 AM

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wonder how much the RX6600 will retail for here...lol
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post Oct 14 2021, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Oct 14 2021, 09:56 AM)
wonder how much the RX6600 will retail for here...lol
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it's already here

https://shopee.com.my/GIGABYTE-Radeon-RX-66...831.12028137576
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post Oct 14 2021, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ Oct 14 2021, 12:55 PM)
Lol so fast sold out
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post Oct 15 2021, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Oct 14 2021, 01:45 PM)
Lol so fast sold out
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it's available now.
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post Oct 19 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(targon @ Oct 14 2021, 12:55 PM)
1080p card for RM 2XXX. Yeah, hard pass.
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