Well not sure about the WRX (coz they're still produced) but Evo of course can only live off its legendary reputation as it's not made anymore. And btw it's one hell of a reputation too as it literally can still humiliate majority of new cars today even those so called fast sports cars ya, not to mention those wannabes like GTI etc2.

Sure ALL German cars can go fast/perform well in Autobahn meh??? Sure Japanese cars tend to feel out of breath also? Have you tried real powerful Japanese cars or not? Sure on average there are more powerful German cars than Japanese but not true for all ya.

literally, conti means 'continental europe' or 'continent' or 'mainland europe'

This post has been edited by patt_sue: Nov 2 2016, 06:09 PM

Yeah that's what I've suspected, so does it mean no cars made in Asia will be considered Conti cars? But then how about recent car brands from mainland China , shouldn't they also be called Conti cars as China is the main body of land in Asia continent? I honestly don't see the point of this Malaysian term of 'Continental car' coz within that category there are too many different brands from different origins with very different characteristics as well, why group it as 1 "Continental car"?

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Nov 2 2016, 06:24 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments...anmade_cars_as/

for malaysian, everything non-asian car is conti.... even ford...

As if Asia is not a continent itself!

forget about this guy la, talking from his arse 1...

to him, his renault kangoo is the best car, his golf in europe is the bestest of the bestest

The favorite conti car of Malaysians who want to act high class

Oops

Hahaha, it's ok, I know he tends to exaggerate often so I'm just trying to straighten the facts.

Same sentiment! Exactly what I thought of!

It's not about powerful. It's about a typical B segment hatchback with 90 hp having no problem doing 180 (if the engine can reach that speed), and feeling relatively planted at that, where a STOCK Japanese car of that segment won't be doing so well. They weren't designed for that, they were designed to be easy to drive through towns, with minimum effort.

I'm saying that most contis are capable of driving way beyond the speed limit (in terms of engine power any car is, but not in terms of handling etc.). My 75 hp Citroen Xsara, despite having a comfy setup, easily does 170 (downhill). I don't even need to hold the steering wheel, that's how planted it is. And no, no exaggeration. Through towns or when parking the Xsara takes a lot more effort, the power steering exists but is very weak, you need to work hard. Japanese cars are better in those situations.

Anyway, I consider Mazda more conti then Japanese in terms of feel etc., they may be 100% Japanese, but they are quite European in feel.

As for the Kangoo... no, it's not the best car, but it is vastly underrated and better than the Avanza, its main rival back in the day.

Oh man...what is going on here babbling about conti car stability doing 180kmh on the perfectly flat autobahn.

Our country more geng... Wira doing 200kmh on the wavy highway and all live to tell the tale. It's not the car, it's the driver.

you nailed it.

Didn't know u got 'hurt' so easily! Poor fellow! No need to cry.....come to daddy! Btw, jerking is quite common among male! Wwhahahahah ..........

i guess the main contributor for the hammering is because they compare it with the multi-linked Honda Civic. If Civic could provide a reasonable rear space, they cant see why Mazda cant. Anyhow both Honda and Mazda has different directions when making their cars. All boils down to preference.

See your your first post earlier and then next one above kinda contradict themselves. In your first post you mentioned that all German cars will do well in high speeds while Japanese will be out of breath, so it's implying that all German cars have good power for high speeds while Japanese don't as they run out of breath. But then in the first paragraph above you said it's not about power but about handling or more exact stability. So which one is it? If you want to say about stability then don't say Japanese cars will tend feel out of breath coz stability has nothing to do with out of breath (unless you have different English understanding of the term 'out of breath'). And even though I agree that smaller size Japanese or Korean cars tend to feel more unstable/floating at high speeds, I also emphasize again that not all Japanese cars will be out of breath or not stable at high speeds. See, you may have valid points in your posts but the way you mentioned them often not accurate, look exaggerated, and mislead people hence that's why some here already said you're just talking nonsense.

Four legs good, two legs bad!
Suddenly conti = German. French cars these days are completely different from Italians which in turn are completely different from Germans. Barely anyone brought up British cars and nobody even cared to mention the Russians and eastern block. If all lump together then might as well include Japan and Korea then all one big happy family.
Conclusion is belilah barangan buatan Malaysia!

New drinking game: Everytime someone mentioned double wishbone, everyone takes a shot.

Mine is a 2002 Xsara, and yeah, it still exists. Barely gets driven anymore, but it's fine. Currently it resides in Spain.

I suppose Peugeot expanded too fast, had bad SCs, couple of issues that weren't rectified swiftly and without fuzz by the SCs, so the brand got a bad rep.

And yeah, I think VW also made the same mistake, and they ruined their reputation. Now it doesn't matter anymore if the cars are good, if the problems are gone, if the SCs have been improved. The reputation is gone, and it will be very, very hard for them to get it back.

@djtong: Obviously every brand has a different focus... IMHO Peugeot is trying hard to copy VW, but with more flair, while Citroen is going their own completely bonkers ways. You can't even put all the French into one basket. However most European cars have a certain flair... a certain feeling. It may come in different ways, but there's something special about them. Obsessive attention to detail in VW and the desire to appeal to any driver, no matter what they want (even though that means compromises). Quirky out of the box thinking (Citroen). Driving pleasure (Ford). Quirky thinking + aspirations to be like VW (Peugeot). Aspirations to be like VW, but more comfortable and more stylish (Renault). And on and on.

British cars? Which British cars? There's Aston Martin, Jaguar, Rolls Royce and Bentley. Some smaller brands like Lotus too, sure. But nothing mainstream is left.

Russians? Terrible cars, and Russia isn't exactly part of Europe IMHO. They are doing their own thing.

You are joking. Perfectly flat? I wish it was. AFAIK it took them up to 80 years to replace the highways built in the 1930s.

I don't have the balls to drive 80 in a Rusa, but the same road in another car at 130? Sure. No problem. It IS the car. I drove the same road in my 2013 Golf, in a 2016 Peugeot 208 and an 2016 Opel Corsa. Did 210 in the Golf, no issues, not tiring. Did 180 in the Peugeot, no issues, a bit more tiring, but it's fine. Did 170 in the Opel, was absolutely exhausted when I got out of the car, and quite terrified while driving (unfortunately I was in a hurry, otherwise I would have driven much slower in that car). The Opel is IMHO designed as a city car first and foremost, and for driving around towns it is good. Really good. But don't drive fast in it.

Likewise I just think that most Japanese cars, because it isn't necessary for them to drive fast (it only really happens in Germany anyway), aren't good at it. Different priorities.

I meant out of breath in the sense that they are out of their comfort zone. Might have mixed something up, apologies. And yes, I am generalizing, and I am talking about mainstream cars. Performance cars are an entirely different story. I am also excluding Japanese (and Korean) cars designed for Europe. Those tend to behave much more like European cars. And Mazda.