QUOTE(gidlcin @ Jun 10 2009, 01:10 AM)
yup i know. the sad thing is that malaysia dont have the thingy to test DNA on GSD..unlike US where they do scan n test on the DNA..
cause i have been told by a breeder that he say he wont recommend me GSD cause he cant promise 100% that GSD will have no prob...
cause GSD is one of the dog i wanted to get for a long time..cause im looking for Big/guard dog
which now i come to conclusion is that will get doberman or rottie. at first GSD is my priority

Hello,
Let me clear up a few misunderstanding about the breed. First of all one do not need to test the dna to check on the hip and elbow. You just need the pedigree papers and xray results. PEdigree paper is to check on the parentage on the offspring that might have hip problem or not. Xray result is to prove that the parent are not the one bringing the problem. In Malaysia, one could get the hip and elbow xray by the local vet. And I have one thing to ask your breeder, which big breed he can guarantee 100% confirm will not have hip problem?? Unless he is god then i have no issues with that. hahaha. Even in dob and rott, they WILL have hip issues. The problem started in Malaysia when breeder are importing breeding stock with hip problem and nerve problem so this is the offspring you see now. So my suggestion is go for your dream and get a gsd. Before getting one, please do some research online or books or you can even PM me. I will be glad to help.
Hope this clear up some misunderstanding. Some people that do not know about the breed just simply give comment based on hearsay. This is what killing the breed. It is time for us to do our part.

Added on June 10, 2009, 1:05 pmQUOTE(Reanne @ Jun 10 2009, 08:54 AM)
German shepherds commonly have problems with their hips as show GSD are bred to have low slung hindquarters, so it increases the risk of hip problems due to that. Working line GSD are not bred with that in mind, so usually working line GSD have less problems in general.
Dogs don't really sweat, they pant. I'm guessing your GS had skin problems that's why it stunk. Cuz right now I have a lab with skin problems and you don't need to see her come into the room to know she's there cuz she stinks!
Hi Reanne,
Glad to have someone that agree with me on dog panting. lol. I agree that working line do not have so much hip problem than showline. But not mainly because of the angulation and hind. Because working line are relatively new to Malaysia, their breeding stock are xray certified and the breeder are aware of the problem now. For showline past people, they are not equip with the experience or knowledge at that time. Now it is a totally different ball game. You will see many Germany SG or V rated in Malaysia showring today. Lots of commited gsd hobbyist trying to improve the breed. We can talk all day about gsd, I am obsessed. ahahahah. By the way, i just got my FOTO URMA book from Germany, i am going to read all day.
This post has been edited by sirisaac: Jun 10 2009, 01:05 PM