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Hector10
post Sep 10 2009, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(sirisaac @ Sep 10 2009, 05:20 PM)
Hi,

wow, another gsd lover. welcome. as for the food, it really depends. i am using Health Food for Dogs which is really good for me. the price is not as high as innova and the quality i think is just as good. in dog food analysis- it is rated 4 stars. lots of supplements in it. innova is also good but not good for my pocket. i have tried lots of brand and the one i am using now is more value for money. dog food issues is very subjective because if it suits me but then for you, your dog might not like it.
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hi..
where can i buy this Health Food brand?
here in melaka i never see such brand. neither Health Food nor Innova. Actually am lookin for a good pet store or pet supplies around KL-putrajaya-cyberjaya, because i am familiar with that area.

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post Sep 10 2009, 10:50 PM

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sorry la. i am from jb so i also dont know kl well. blackwood is also easily available in kl. it is also value for your money.
Hector10
post Sep 10 2009, 10:53 PM

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between these brands, which is available in malaysia?
- Wellness
- Buffalo
- James Wellbeloved



Actually im lookin for Royal Canin GS-24 (speciald made for GSD), is it available in malaysia? does anybody knows the price?

it would be a huge help if anybody knows this info..
thanks thanks..
soekma88
post Sep 10 2009, 10:55 PM

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there is range of food which better than eukanuba as in some countires eukanuba is banned as the case of animal abusement in testing its food..kibbles like blackwood or nutriedge is better as i know...u can find in kang pet shop, bt my opinion goin to holistic food or try to give BARF, bt please do research 1st before giving BARF..ok hector!!! wink.gif i think i know who r u..u know who am I...hahahahhaha brows.gif

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Hector10
post Sep 11 2009, 02:37 AM

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is it true that corn or maize can cause harm to gsd?
i had this info from other forums said that corn and meat by-products can harm gsd.
is there any scientific explanation about this?
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post Sep 11 2009, 04:57 AM

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I wouldn't go to the extent to say that it can be harmful, but corn/maize are main causes of skin allergies in dogs. So if your dog has sensitive skin, better to avoid kibbles which contain corn/maize.

The argument out there is that naturally, dogs don't eat corn/maize so it only serves as fillers in the kibbles - meaning you do not get your money's worth. Better to find products that lists chicken/lamb/fish, high quality grain (brown rice, oats, barley), potatoes/vege as the first 5 ingredients.

By-products usually mean parts of the animal not fit for human consumption, they grind everything together to get this. So we don't really know what goes into it - chicken heads, feathers, feet? So the argument here is to feed your dog food ingredients that is also safe for human consumption. "Meal" is OK - as long as they list what animal it came from, eg. chicken meal, lamb meal, etc.

I'm feeding my 8 week old GSD with Natural Balance, recently switched from Eukanuba. Too early to say if there's any difference!! smile.gif But he sure likes it better than his old food...

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post Sep 11 2009, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(GoodKat @ Sep 11 2009, 04:57 AM)
I wouldn't go to the extent to say that it can be harmful, but corn/maize are main causes of skin allergies in dogs. So if your dog has sensitive skin, better to avoid kibbles which contain corn/maize.

The argument out there is that naturally, dogs don't eat corn/maize so it only serves as fillers in the kibbles - meaning you do not get your money's worth. Better to find products that lists chicken/lamb/fish, high quality grain (brown rice, oats, barley), potatoes/vege as the first 5 ingredients.

By-products usually mean parts of the animal not fit for human consumption, they grind everything together to get this. So we don't really know what goes into it - chicken heads, feathers, feet? So the argument here is to feed your dog food ingredients that is also safe for human consumption. "Meal" is OK - as long as they list what animal it came from, eg. chicken meal, lamb meal, etc.

I'm feeding my 8 week old GSD with Natural Balance, recently switched from Eukanuba. Too early to say if there's any difference!! smile.gif But he sure likes it better than his old food...
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Hi GoodKat,
my puppie age not so different than your, my hector is 9 weeks. Thanks for the info about corn n by-products. At first the breeder told me to us eukanuba but later i did some experiment to give him a royal canin. his appetite is a lot better under RC rather than eukanuba, and the stool is also a lot better (not as smelly as eukanuba).
But in transition between eukanuba and RC his stool is a bit liquids (not so good looking) wacko.gif lol

before i decide to go for RC i was considering to take Natural Balance, but when i google NB i found that NB is recall for market in the US because it contain melamine. It causing sickness to a lot of dogs and cats, u can found the news video in youtube. So then i decide to RC.

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post Sep 11 2009, 04:05 PM

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it's preferably to feed meat instead of filler or grain or even corn..they are nt borned to eat corn or grain...infact, some of manufactures of kibbles put filler inside so less meat will equal to lower costs. Corn even some human can not consume it..me my self, i can not consume corn and doctor suggest me to stop consume it as my digestion is not able to handle corn...and if u know. kibbles is cooked with very high temperature, some ppl even argue bcos of tat most nutrition are gone during the process of cooking. Tht's fact that kibbles are harder to be digested by furkids. tht's y, they need more time to digest it compare to home cook or BARF...My maltese used to eat kibbles, but since he has a very sensitive ear and skin, i switch to BARF...now, he has a better skin, shiny coat, and his hear is nt easy to trap crap inside...any new photos??
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Ah_Chuan
post Sep 11 2009, 09:47 PM

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hi guys, act how to diff working line and show line except the hind leg is lower?
cuz i met a fren, he has a really awesome GSD. but he dunno whether it is a working line or show line. cuz the GSD is adopted from other person.
the GSD is said to hv thailand champion line in it. but no MKA. so canot prove anything. but it is really a beautiful dog. the colour is so rich and the black pigmentation is so dark and shinny. i cant c properly the leg cuz it keep on moving here and there. but i think its not as lower as show and not as straight as working. so any idea to tell whether its show or working?
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post Sep 11 2009, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(Hector10 @ Sep 11 2009, 03:21 PM)
Hi GoodKat,
my puppie age not so different than your, my hector is 9 weeks. Thanks for the info about corn n by-products. At first the breeder told me to us eukanuba but later i did some experiment to give him a royal canin. his appetite is a lot better under RC rather than eukanuba, and the stool is also a lot better (not as smelly as eukanuba).
But in transition between eukanuba and RC his stool is a bit liquids (not so good looking)  wacko.gif lol

before i decide to go for RC i was considering to take Natural Balance, but when i google NB i found that NB is recall for market in the US because it contain melamine. It causing sickness to a lot of dogs and cats, u can found the news video in youtube. So then i decide to RC.

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Interesting! I didn't know they had a recall - did some research and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_pet_food_recalls

Seems there was a massive recall 2 yrs ago which impacted many brands of pet foods, NB and RC included. There is a list there, although it may be irrelevant now since all companies would have changed their ingredient lists since then. But a good read anyway... thanks for highligthting it! rclxms.gif

I agree with soekma88 that BARF would be the best option for the dog, however due to time constraints and the complexity of balancing the correct nutrients for the dog I'm going to have to pass and do a little more research before going down that path. As for grain - the theory is that wolves in the wild feed on herbivores which may have semi-processed or processed grain/plants in their stomachs. Thus some companies trying to "replicate" what canines would eat in the wild by introducing these diets in their food!! Of course some do it just to save cost to use them as fillers!

Hector10, actually my pup will be 9 weeks this Tuesday, any chance he was born on 14 July? Could be from the same litter... biggrin.gif How loose are his stools? My pup had very bad diarrhea, which I had thought was due to the change in his food but upon inspection by the vet he was diagnosed as having Coccidia in his intestinal system. He's on antibiotics now...

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QUOTE(Ah_Chuan @ Sep 11 2009, 09:47 PM)
hi guys, act how to diff working line and show line except the hind leg is lower?
cuz i met a fren, he has a really awesome GSD. but he dunno whether it is a working line or show line. cuz the GSD is adopted from other person.
the GSD is said to hv thailand champion line in it. but no MKA. so canot prove anything. but it is really a beautiful dog. the colour is so rich and the black pigmentation is so dark and shinny. i cant c properly the leg cuz it keep on moving here and there. but i think its not as lower as show and not as straight as working. so any idea to tell whether its show or working?
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I would guess it is a showline because of the thailand champion line that you mentioned cause Thai is big on SV german imports last time. what about size, showline are a little bigger. really hard to guess without pictures. how is the color beside black? old type is usually black / tan now is moving towards reddish brown for showline. aiyo, show pics better. lol
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post Sep 11 2009, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(gidlcin @ Sep 10 2009, 09:00 AM)
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But anyway, like goodkat said, he is now eating Natural Balance. But he's a bit lazy loh. Only eat from our hands. He eats a bit from the bowl then after that don't want to eat already.

Really naughty boy lah. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2009, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(sirisaac @ Sep 11 2009, 10:54 PM)
I would guess it is a showline because of the thailand champion line that you mentioned cause Thai is big on SV german imports last time. what about size, showline are a little bigger. really hard to guess without pictures. how is the color beside black? old type is usually black / tan now is moving towards reddish brown for showline. aiyo, show pics better. lol
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ya i think its kinda very huge!!!
its a black and tan GSD. the tan very rich in color and the black is very shinny and dark.
sorry i don't have photo. mayb if i go to that person house again i will snap some photos.
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post Sep 15 2009, 04:41 AM

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Anyone knows where to buy Orijen around KL-Putrajaya-Cyberjaya region?
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post Sep 15 2009, 04:57 AM

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QUOTE(Hector10 @ Sep 15 2009, 04:41 AM)
Anyone knows where to buy Orijen around KL-Putrajaya-Cyberjaya region?
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ikano at PJ..or pets paradise at NZX...im nt sure petsmore at usj... u need to visit IKANO 1 day..ehm..or pets wonderland at mid valley..i think they have orijen
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post Sep 15 2009, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(Hector10 @ Sep 15 2009, 04:41 AM)
Anyone knows where to buy Orijen around KL-Putrajaya-Cyberjaya region?
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Hector,

Earlier Goodkat and I bought Orijen from Seapark, only to find that many people say the protein level is too high for pups. It is much better when they are grown up. That is why we switched to Natural Balance. But if you want choices, I'd recommend Seapark at PJ. They have a lot there for you to choose.

Alternatively, you can see http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/229386 for the petshop directories.

Where did you get your pup ah? By chance, is he from USJ? We just got our recently, same age as yours. This Tuesday, he will be 9 weeks! He was so thin the other day because of Coccidia but after a visit to the doc, he's much better and eating well. Now fatty bom bom already!

Show us some pictures of your doggy?
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post Sep 16 2009, 11:05 PM

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hi guys,

my male gsd pics. taken last week. please excuse the hair for now, changing hair la. show your gsd pics time again.


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are they easy to train? looking to get one soon lol
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post Sep 17 2009, 06:40 PM

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i'm from melaka,like GSD so much but cant effort 1,juz hav a golden now...any recomended breeder in melaka?with good price

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