Hi all,

didnt get some nice pics this round. only 2 nice ones and pls dont mind the toilet view. lol. will try my best again soon.

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hi,

btw, where is this jesstin? i am hoping for some advises or guidances.

I will post up the application letter and also content. maybe you can see your friends in there and decide to join us. this club is going to be a combination of working and show ppl. lastly, do check and ask around before making comments. We are trying to make changes and you still decide to yap and not contribute? is the ob so important in your life and you cannot accept others? i have no interest in ob trail, my game is show ring and basic ob and basic bitework. so why complicate things times and times again? why much force others to like what you like?

ok, i really have trouble uploading . i guess i will copy and paste here. read the intro and you will see the mission and vision.

54, Kampong Chedang,
Jalan Rasah,
70300 Seremban,
Negeri Seremban.

Dear Sir/ Madam,
Re: Formation of the German Shepherd Dog Club of Malaysia
As enthusiasts of the breed, we have formed a pro-tem committee with the blessing of the Malaysian Kennel Association, to set up a German Shepherd Dog Breed Club (Communication letter/s available upon request).
Our objectives:
• Improve the quality and quantity of GSDs in Malaysia;
• Educate owners and would be owners on the responsibilities of owning a GSD and their proper management and care;
• Provide the necessary programs e.g.: Specialty Shows, Breed Surveys, Obedience Training, Schutzhund Training, Educational Talks, etc for owners to recognize the full potential of their GSDs.
As such, we have nominated the following persons as the pro-tem committee to get the club started:
President : Lawrence Lee
Vice President : Mohd Azman
Secretary : Kenneth Yeoh
Assistant Secretary : Isaac Yan
Treasurer : Sugumaran
Committee Members : Dr. SR DEV
Wong Toon Mong
Adrian Tey
En. Razak
Ricky Chuah
State Representatives : Yap Peng Kok (Penang)
Ricky Chuah (Perak)
Rajaratnam (Selangor)
Ambi (Negeri Sembilan)
Yap Peng Soon (Melaka)
Isaac Yan (Johor)
** other states to be advised.
We welcome new members and interested parties to get involved and look forward to hearing from you. For more information please contact:
Lawrence Lee (leeandlee48@yahoo.com) HP: +6016-3385511
Kenneth Yeoh (kulken28@yahoo.com) HP: +6012-2848112
We will put you in touch with the relevant representatives for your area.

Thank you.

Yours Sincerely,


Lawrence Lee
Pro-tem President
GSD Club Malaysia.

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Added on April 2, 2010, 11:02 pmMEMBERSHIP APPLICATION FORM

Mr/Mrs/Miss: ______________________________________________NRIC:______________________
(Name in full Block Letter as stated in NRIC)
Address: _____________________________________________________________________________
City/ Town: _____________________ Postcode: _________________ State: ______________________
Tel (H): _______________________ HP: ______________________ Fax:________________________
Email: ________________________________
Date of Birth (If below 16 yrs of age): ______/______/__________

Fee Structure: Please √ Appropriately:
LIFE MEMBERSHIP (RM500.00) ________________________________
Including Entrance Fee
ORDINARY MEMBERSHIP (RM100.00) __________________________
One time Entrance Fee RM20.00
Annual Subscription RM80.00
JUNIOR MEMBER (RM50.00) ___________________________________
One time Entrance Fee RM20.00
Annual Subscription RM30.00

A Junior Member shall be under 16 years of age. In the case of an application for Junior Membership, the copy of the applicant’s NRIC must be produced to certify his/her age at the time. A Junior Member on reaching the age of 16 years will automatically become an Ordinary Member without the need to pay the Entrance Fee, provided that he/she has been a Junior Member for at least 12 months.

This application form is to be submitted to “The Committee, GSD Club of Malaysia” at the below address together with the amount of RM$ _____________

I hereby apply to become a *LIFE/ORDINARY/JUNIOR member of the German Shepherd Dog Club of
Malaysia.


___________________
Signature of Applicant: ______________________________________ Date: ____________________

I agree to abide by ALL RULES, REGULATIONS AND BY-LAWS of the Club which may be in force during the period of my membership.
____________________________________________________________________________

For Official Use
Payment Received

Amount: $_________
By: ______________
Date: _____________
c/o No 54, Kampong Chedang, Jalan Rasah, 70300 Seremban, Negeri Seremban, Malaysia.

Anyone interested to join, please contact me i will try to post the application to you since i cannot upload here. or anyone can here me upload? lastly, jesstin i hope you can understand the situation first.

This post has been edited by sirisaac: Apr 2 2010, 11:02 PM

Jesstin,

I guess you must really must be in your own world. Away from reality. First of all, showring is in public. So you are wrong once again. And running around in circle as you called it is the way the dogs are judges anywhere in this world. Even in Westminister show. In your workingline, they run in field that is the way it goes. You talk as if you got experience and all but it seems you got nothing to back it up. First you said training, now you say train correctly. Why all the running around the bush? Stop turning round and round as i am really tired of answering your post. But I am sure in all breed there are always so called `empty tin`. Enough of the talk and let your action counts. i can inform you the next meeting for you to voice your concern. You can do whatever you want, but plsss do something. I dont want to sound rude or anything but i have seen too much people like that. they complaint and complaint and choose to wait and see. Later when the club is successful they join the bandwagon. i hope you are not like that.

jesstin,

simple,i can answer your question very easily. Come see them yourself instead of hearing me out. Then you tell me, am i breeding better or backward? I am always open to critiques. Last time i will be explaining, my game is showring. You can enter your dog there and we can see too. ACTION SPEAKS. Since you ask me so many question that i did answer, let me ask you a simple question: dont twist and turn on this, pls.

Do you keep a dog that can sit and bark on command and etc but the dog is just downright ugly? what is the point of keeping then, might as well go adopt a mongrel from SPCA and not gsd. I think this hit the main point. Wouldl love to hear your comment.

P:S, You coming to voice your grave concern in our next meeting? or you can bring along your friend too. Action speaksssss

shankar,

i am glad we have more members that is willing to contribute. But let me get this straight for you. This is to further prove gsd is not only nice in showring but also on field. so this is really to get a 50/50 balance. it is not that show ppl dont care about training, this is the requirement for the ring so now we need to make changes. how do we make changes you might ask? first of al, it is by gathering ppl from all lines and push into breed survey, sch and ob. if we cannot work on this, then we will still be divided. look in those germany sv show, they have working line in it and the wusv also have showline. if they can work together, we not us?? is it because we are just to defensive on your lines??

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Added on April 5, 2010, 8:51 pmshankar, i pm you my number.

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Added on April 5, 2010, 8:55 pmCheck your fact. gsd is breed for herding in the first place. Maybe you can let me know some of your details then i can ask around and see if anyone knows you. Thanks


This post has been edited by sirisaac: Apr 5 2010, 08:55 PM

Jesstin,

again i will answer your questions politely but pls answer my question above. details??

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Added on April 7, 2010, 6:15 pmgid,

it is on the 24th sat. the pups is doing great. 3 weeks plus now. starting solid food now.


This post has been edited by sirisaac: Apr 7 2010, 06:15 PM

arwc,

glad to have someone that understand current showline.

wp188,

i am doing great. just busy with work and the pups. solid food is really messy so have to clean and wipe everywhere after they eat. 3 times a day. lol. i see a few potential ones. so i guess the new owners will have a hard time choosing.

gid,

for sure i will take some pics for you. too bad you cant join. our own msia judge Mr Tan Oo Hock will be judging. He is also a gsd guy. but you dont get to see many gsd in sg show. mainly small breed.

Jesstin,

Finally you are talking some sense. So i guess it is agreed that not just working line is fit for sch and ob trail, showline are equally good for it. Now we come back to quality and showline evolution in msia. First of all, we do have sg or v rated showline back in the days but not at the amount we have now. Many years ago this sg or v rated dogs belong to rich msian but now any average income ppl with passion for it can compete in shows. Studs are available here. We have their breed survey report to view due to internet german translation now. I dont know what you are used to last time but we need to move forward and quit whining. And most importantly, these showring gsd that you see are previously competing in europe before arriving here. And some are highly placed too. So this contradict your statement again. Now to answer you why no improvement previously, do you know how long this gsd chapter have been empty or inactive already?? This gsd msia only manage to gain momentum a few months ago due to a group of gsd lovers. We wants to implement breed survey, gun test, sch and etc. That is why we got working line people to sit in as well. Mr Azman is in, if you know him since you said you are working line too. If there is not sincerity, then why all the trouble?

I have been asking you for your details many times now. But you didnt pm or even post your details here. You can let me know which club you said you trained for or your name and location. This is not to belittle you or anything, this is to gather as many gsd ppl we have to move forward. With all your post above, you are really not helping but only giving out what we can read from any gsd website. So the meeting is on 17th, you can still voice out now. It seems that workingline msia went to compete in Wusv but it seems they did not complete it too. And it is not really hard to send dogs to germany sv ring, both parent must be sch and hip/elbow xray only. we want to COMPLETE in 1st ring NOT just participation. This is my opinion. Look at China now, they have Germany best dogs but yet they are NOT sending dogs to compete in sv ring. They are surely rich ppl so money is not a problem. This comes back to years of history germans have on breeding. Italy and France is slowly sending their homegrown dogs to germany now. But this is not after many trial and errors. Showring is not just running around in circle like you think. you think millions of people paid big money to watch westminister show to JUST see dogs running in circle?? I hope you will try to think for a while before posting again and not let whoever cloud your judgement on TODAY 'S CURRENT SHOWLINE GSD.

Jesstin,

also i am going to make this a final post to you. Please do not come to a public forum and start with your baseless accusasion. this is a public forum and what you are doing is really a cheap shot. this is just a low tactics. if you can identify which dogs fail the test in germany and was sold here for cheap price, please name the dog... do not make any accusation from hearsay or grandmother stories. mind you, this statement seems like a whole lot. so i will be expecting names and not your false claim. lastly which part of my posts you dont understand?? gsd club is trying to implement these test nowwwwwww. do you get it this time? and pls name the committee that is the same people?? do you even know who is the current ppl in it? And we are not trying to breed workingline to showline, mr azman is in club to provide assistance unlike that only talk but no actions.

finally, if you are going to make such crazy claim, please give you name so we can all know who is hiding behind the pc of yours. because i can also hide behind my pc and say workingline dogs are all from HD parents.. Dont cross the line here. know your fact and fiction.and why dont you enter your dogs into the showring and see who is better?? i have said many times, but you still pusing pusing.

jesstin,

and i thought you said your previous post was your final post here. well, i didnt think so too. ok, i have been replying to your every post but you on the other hand did not give me the details i want and choose to shoot your cheap shot behind a computer. before you post again, please answer my above post. unless you are just shooting blanks again. ummmmmm, ok i will just answer 1 more of your questions because i am really itchin to answer this one. showring is for balance dog like i always said. looks and wits 50/50 remember??? so why dont i ask you back, which working line is as good as showline in the ring?

p.s: i am not going to answer any of your post unless you give me details because you are just simply throwing cheap shot.

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Added on April 10, 2010, 11:02 pmand my name is Isaac Yan from JB. feel free to ask around, plsss

This post has been edited by sirisaac: Apr 10 2010, 11:02 PM

gid,

i am totally ok with someone just yapping but only an empty tin. i am really itching to answer some of his question again but this time i am going to ignore the itch until he/she can provide details because this 'empty tin' just simply throw cheat shot. the few things i need for jesstin, if this is to continue

1. name:
club you trained with:

2. as you said most imports here are rejected good from germany. no need to name so many, just name me 5 will do.
a.
b.
c.
d.
e.

3. you said most member from current gsd club or from previous gsd chapter. no need to name so many also, name me five.
a.
b.
c.
d.
e.

4. Lastly name me your breeding that is competing in germany as well. i dont need to know your friends-friends breeding because they are not in this forum throwing cheap shot. so i hope you can have info to FILL IN THE BLANKS. SOON.

jesstin,

no point calling anyone idiot here if you cant provide the infos i needed. at least gid do not hide behind computer and repost what we can read from internet. then still have the nerve to throw cheap accusation but have nothing to back up for it. i think everyone here thinks you are empty tin now. ohh, please dont use the word we in your post because you are hoping workingline ppl will come and back you in this forum? stop hiding behind others and give details and FILL IN THE BLANKS.

Lastly it was never my intention to sell pups here. this will really make my day if i say this. all my pups are prebook already and they are not even 5 weeks yet. you know why?? because of 1 simple thing. seeing is believing. and they have not even seen the pups yet. ohh, btw the pups all are sold on a good price. stop digging your own grave deeper and deeper. FILL IN THE BLANKS. actually i was just piss to see such a one-sided person but now i am really laughing at such a ignorant fool.

1. name:
club you trained with:

2. as you said most imports here are rejected good from germany. no need to name so many, just name me 5 will do.
a.
b.
c.
d.
e.

3. you said most member from current gsd club or from previous gsd chapter. no need to name so many also, name me five.
a.
b.
c.
d.
e.

4. Lastly name me your breeding that is competing in germany as well. i dont need to know your friends-friends breeding because they are not in this forum throwing cheap shot. so i hope you can have info to FILL IN THE BLANKS. SOON

p.s: i am laughing and rolling on the floor now at youuuuu. ahaahahah

jesstin,

FILL IN THE BLANKS.............. THEN WE KNOW WHO IS THE CONMAN HERE. i am lazy to even reply to a person hiding behind a pc. lol.

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Added on April 11, 2010, 11:02 pmbtw, i dont laugh too when it comes to gsd but you are really a joke to gsd ppl in msia. and pls dont use the word 'we' anymore because i dont think any workingline ppl wants to associate with you after seeing this. i think it is time to change your nick here because i really dont know how you can salvage some dignity from this.

ahahahahhaa

This post has been edited by sirisaac: Apr 11 2010, 11:02 PM

gid,

i am trying very hard to ignore this fool le. i guess the fool really trap now. cannot back off and cannot go forward. very soon the fool will come up with stories that workingline dog are all HD because workingline ppl dont want to associate with him/her anymore. lol. btw, all prebooked already. they will come and choose after the 1st jab, maybe bring home after 2 weeks when the 'dog proof' their house.

gid,

i am sorry. i will call the buyer in 2 week time and see who back out then i call you. sorry again le.

white palace,

i know you mean well and we will try to tone it down a bit.

jesstin,

after not being able to FILL IN THE BLANKS after your stupid accusation, now you say i wayang?? i told you to come see, you dont want. ask you to fill in the blanks, you cannot. ask you state your name, you scared. ask you to come meeting, you hide. haih.... i really dont know what to do with you. emptytin but still want to act.

gid,

Thanks for the wayang, man. Later i give you the bribe of 100k la. and i buy one mercedes for you tomorrow, ok?? ohh , did i type that out?? sorry sorry. ahahahhhah. this jesstin really make me laugh.

jesstin,

maybe after i sell all then i give the buyer contact number then you call one by one and ask them WHY THEY BOOK WITHOUT SEEING?? My reputation is definetely one of the answer. the dog i have is also going to be the answer. i strongly believe it is not your love for gsd, but it is your love for only workingline gsd. you have strong biased against showline but when i challenge you. you hide and hide and post nonsense. you keep using the word `we` but i think you are really standing alone in this gsd scene. i think i no need to explain myself to you because why waste my energy typing all this for a non exist person.

wp,

ok la, i had enough. i am not going to reply to this empty tin anymore. i post up pics later.

gid,

you coming to sg show? you working or schooling now, btw. or you coming to the casino in sg? lol

Jesstin,

looking at the way you hide. pls fill in the blanks first..........

i know i really dont want to reply to you anymore but i cant help but see you fill in the blankssssss

if cannot fill in the blank retract your words . very simple thing. why all the wayang? like i said, showring too tough for you?? no point you ask me go ob or sch, then i ask you go showring. this has been going on like ages. fill in the blanks then we know who is the conman and trying to mislead ppl.