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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) Se7en, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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Ramjade
post Nov 2 2016, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 2 2016, 06:59 PM)
How on earth did u get 100%? I am going to write to ANSB why they paid me so much less when I bought the funds since launched in 2009. vmad.gif
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Buy, hold, don't sell. Compounding interest at work.

QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 07:03 PM)
Typo maybe laugh.gif

7/8 years raise 100% not bad wo  brows.gif
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Nope. Not typo. Saw it with my own eyes. RM10k > RM20k
Ramjade
post Nov 2 2016, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 2 2016, 07:14 PM)
walao seriously bro..

double with just dividend only  icon_idea.gif  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

for me, I cannot actually see, because in between I top up.. so in the end, the balance up up multiple times from initial amount invested devil.gif  laugh.gif  blush.gif  dry.gif
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Welk she buy and didn't think can topup. So every year just update book. Lookup at the record I was shocked. That's when I learn can actually topup some more.
Ramjade
post Nov 2 2016, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 2 2016, 07:22 PM)
No way 100% even u add chemical to the compound: tongue.gif, it is only 55.0763%.
Year Dividend (sen)
2010 6.38 106.38
2011 6.5 113.2947
2012 6.6 120.7721502
2013 6.7 128.8638843
2014 6.6 137.3689006
2015 6.4 146.1605103
2016 6.1 155.0763014

Even at average of 7% it will take 10 years to double the investment.

In btw your mum must have top up lah.
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Don't know wei. But I remembered it sort of doubled. She brought when it first launched. Anyway just forget it. laugh.gif
Ramjade
post Nov 3 2016, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(yanhuafu @ Nov 3 2016, 06:35 AM)
Are you able to top up? Can top up 4 or 5 figure?
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Of course can topup. Up to you want to topup how much and depend on unit availability.
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post Nov 3 2016, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(kpfun @ Nov 3 2016, 09:15 AM)
You are right. However, ASNx are political funds, otherwise, I won't even put a cent there.
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Me too. If it's not RM1/unit and not owned by government, I will stay far away. If they switch to VP, I will withdraw all. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 3 2016, 09:24 AM)
What do u mean by a political fund?

How does that determine your investment decision? smile.gif
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ASNB was created to help bumis. ASB and ASB2 are held by bumis. So if that's not political, I don't know about you.

If it's not fixed price and not GLC, I won't put money with them.

QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 3 2016, 09:42 AM)
So if these FP funds are instead offered by conventional fund houses like Kenanga or PM, it will not be attractive anymore?  laugh.gif tongue.gif
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Yup. It won't be attractive.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 3 2016, 09:50 AM
Ramjade
post Nov 3 2016, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 3 2016, 02:33 PM)
thanks for sharing, is both capital and divined 6.x% with PIDM? is eligibility open for all race/nationality?
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Hahaha... Only FD and SA is protected by PIDM. PIDM don't have enough money to pay all also if a bank bankrupt.

Buying and selling at RM1.00/unit + a fund with "national interest" + track record of > 10 years should indicate it's safety.

Non bumi can only buy ASW2020, ASM, AS1M. Forget the other fund like ASG, ASN3 if bank worker ask you to open that instead.
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post Nov 3 2016, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 3 2016, 04:18 PM)
where is best place and timing to buy ASW2020, ASM, AS1M and what dividen structure and risk are we looking at?
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See first page. What's with dividend structure? You will get dividend once a year and the NAV won't drop thumbup.gif

Think of it as FD (it works like FD-buy sell RM1/unit and dividend is given once a year except no lock in period and it's a UT)
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post Nov 3 2016, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 3 2016, 04:31 PM)
so means must open account and deposit the fund on 1st of the month to be entitled for that month's dividend else zero am i right?
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Just no dividend for that month but you will get dividend next month provided the next month you don't touch the money. Dividend is based on lowest amount of the month.
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post Nov 3 2016, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 3 2016, 04:44 PM)
QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 3 2016, 04:42 PM)


thank you all for such a kind, speedy and concise explanation.
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To open account for kid, bring his/her Mykid. You can open only if someone sell their unit. If units not available just wait there. Try with min rm100 to open.

For places with higher chance to open, check put first page.
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post Nov 4 2016, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 4 2016, 09:54 PM)
sorry late comer here, what is FP means?
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For non bumi, can only buy ASW2020, ASM, AS1M.
Forget about ASN3, ASG. Not worth time and money.
Ramjade
post Nov 5 2016, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 5 2016, 09:19 AM)
any review/compare ASW2020 vs ASM vs AS1M?
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Check first page for previous year return. Better to open all 3. Why?
(i) returns are more or less the same
(ii) one book no unit, try the other 2 books.

Of course ASW2020 is the most popular and hardest to get.
AS1M is the easiest to get.
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post Nov 5 2016, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 5 2016, 12:57 PM)
in the event of not available, is it possible to transfer between 2 persons supposing someone wants to sell and another want to buy?
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Yes. If done on a Sunday (in a state where banks, asnb are opened). Otherwise if done on normal days, it will be grabbed up instantly.
Even doing on sunday is not a guaranteed you will get it. But it improve your chance. Previously, it was reported someone here managed to do it on a Sunday. 100% successful transfer without losing any units.
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post Nov 5 2016, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Nov 5 2016, 07:01 PM)
Yes, have been doing that last month. In MBB GIA-i, on hunting days, stop the GIA-i, then end of day, place new GIA-i. Then repeat until habis.

Now also doing the same thing. Parked some dough in MBB GIA-i.  biggrin.gif
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You hunt at affin bank or maybank?
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post Nov 5 2016, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Nov 5 2016, 09:21 PM)
Look like need to go to east coast to do the transaction .
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Yeah or Johor.
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post Nov 7 2016, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 7 2016, 09:08 AM)
Sure boh... as cost & time have outweight the benefits
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If 6 figure and want to save on will/Pengisytiharan, is worth it.
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post Nov 7 2016, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 7 2016, 09:19 AM)
Just b pratical as it's tough to get 4 or 5 digits in normal day  doh.gif
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Er, I was talking about transfering 6 figure la. Not topping up.
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post Nov 7 2016, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Nov 7 2016, 09:34 AM)
How to save on will/PA?
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Transfer now while you are alive. Then the amount lawyer/asnb earn from your will be decrease when the time comes.
Just ask guy3288 how he go about it to save cost.
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post Nov 7 2016, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Nov 7 2016, 10:19 AM)
How to transfer?
Sell from the account and immediate buy it back?
It is too risky.

There is a form to fill in to transfer?
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Not if you do it on a Sunday 8am in the morning. Just fill up the buying and withdrawal form. Both person must be there as it must be executed simultaneously.

Yes the risk is there. But it's significantly reduced if performed at that time and day. Most states are not open.

It have been done before with a 100% success rate.

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post Nov 7 2016, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 7 2016, 12:15 PM)
The risk of other Ppl buy is still there
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True. But chances of that happening is lesser than on normal days.
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post Nov 7 2016, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Nov 7 2016, 05:25 PM)
wow its that easy? last time i try maybank always say dont have units... sweat.gif
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Yes. It's hard before affin bank. That I admit. But since affin bank came into play, can ask people here. For me personally, affin bank worker will ask berapa you mahu? 5 figure one shot also no problem. If don't have, just take a seat at affin bank and let the worker work his/her magic.

Maybank bluff you.



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