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sms2u
post Jan 12 2017, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Jan 12 2017, 11:16 AM)
Nope, i was too kiamsiap to pay for the tiket.
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kiamsiap = kedekut (incase some one cannot understand). If kiamsiap, should find other way like free parking instead of park without ticket. cos once got saman, have to pay more.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 12 2017, 11:22 AM)
Lesson learned laugh.gif
Don't be kiamsiap on parking ticket..
Now dbkl fellows are very active.. Simply saman here & there.. They desperate needs money to feed u know who devil.gif

And banks waiting time is long after ASB is open.. Yesterday I went to cimb, 3pm they stop giving Q number for ASx transactions..
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I thought all the bank also stop give Q number after 3pm for ASNB.
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Jan 12 2017, 01:01 PM)
I thought all the bank also stop give Q number after 3pm for ASNB.
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Normally 3.30pm also can get Q number...
Because I have taken number that time before laugh.gif
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post Jan 12 2017, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 12 2017, 11:22 AM)
Lesson learned laugh.gif
Don't be kiamsiap on parking ticket..
Now dbkl fellows are very active.. Simply saman here & there.. They desperate needs money to feed u know who devil.gif

And banks waiting time is long after ASB is open.. Yesterday I went to cimb, 3pm they stop giving Q number for ASx transactions..
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now all banks practices like this? No Q number after 3pm?
I used to go at last min which is around 3.30pm++.
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post Jan 12 2017, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 9 2017, 03:54 PM)
Avoid ASN and ASG at all cost.
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+1 gg.
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post Jan 12 2017, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jan 12 2017, 06:43 PM)
now all banks practices like this? No Q number after 3pm?
I used to go at last min which is around 3.30pm++.
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no no.. normally after 3.30pm also can get Q number..

just that now ASB just open for transactions.. so the crowd is huge.. waiting time also long..

that's why 3pm already stopped giving out number cry.gif cry.gif

I expect this situation will go till end of the month.. worse till 2nd week of Feb..

then back to normal..

This post has been edited by nexona88: Jan 12 2017, 06:59 PM
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post Jan 12 2017, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 12 2017, 06:58 PM)
no no.. normally after 3.30pm also can get Q number..

just that now ASB just open for transactions.. so the crowd is huge.. waiting time also long..

that's why 3pm already stopped giving out number  cry.gif  cry.gif
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oh, thanks bro. I thought cannot go try top up at last min ad.
Nvm la, cny soon mesti ada available units.
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post Jan 12 2017, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jan 12 2017, 07:00 PM)
oh, thanks bro. I thought cannot go try top up at last min ad.
Nvm la, cny soon mesti ada available units.
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well no problem to try the very last minutes.. just that if long waiting number, they will stop issuing Q number..

if no people, even 3.45pm also can issue number biggrin.gif

I remember, went around 3.45pm at Maybank Medan Tunku.. to change passbook.. even after 4pm also still in process of printing my new passbook thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif finally 4.10pm got my passbook rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 12 2017, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 12 2017, 07:04 PM)
well no problem to try the very last minutes.. just that if long waiting number, they will stop issuing Q number..

if no people, even 3.45pm also can issue number  biggrin.gif

I remember, went around 3.45pm at Maybank Medan Tunku.. to change passbook.. even after 4pm also still in process of printing my new passbook  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup: finally 4.10pm got my passbook  rclxm9.gif
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haha Maybank staff is quite friendly and helpful compared to cimb, rhb... rhb/cimb don't even want to issue q number and keep telling system down. (Same reason use 100 times)
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post Jan 12 2017, 07:40 PM

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I think the long lines is a mixture of ASB and people withdrawing for CNY.

Just 2 more weeks to CNY, and last time when I went to update ASB, there was quite a number of Chinese people in the queue too.
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post Jan 12 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jan 12 2017, 07:27 PM)
haha Maybank staff is quite friendly and helpful compared to cimb, rhb... rhb/cimb don't even want to issue q number and keep telling system down. (Same reason use 100 times)
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What I know, cimb staff love to use offline / systems down crap excuses.. Rhb never faced it before..
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 12 2017, 08:49 PM)
What I know, cimb staff love to use offline / systems down crap excuses.. Rhb never faced it before..
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My exp is mbb the best (mainly because of the adinda teller yang sweet and willing to help) smile.gif
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jan 12 2017, 10:03 PM)
My exp is mbb the best (mainly because of the adinda teller yang sweet and willing to help) smile.gif
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Well maybank is quite good..
But still affin is still best.. Less people & more friendly staff laugh.gif
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post Jan 13 2017, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Jan 9 2017, 09:10 AM)
AWO = Abdul Wahid Omar, PNB's new chairman.

I think one would have to understand that FPs are essentially still normal unit trust products so the laws are applicable as to normal UTs ie: all unit holder funds are in the name of the trustee and NOT in the name of PNB/ASNB unlike other institutions such as LTH. So with that there's no way for unit holder funds to be used for "other purposes".

What I meant by not using reserves to prop up returns is for eg: let's say ASB's real returns for 2016 was maybe 4% or 5% but AWO would not have blown all the reserves accumulated after all these years just to keep ASB above 7% because really, given the size of ASB one could easily blow the reserves in just one distribution. So yeah PNB might have used some of the reserves to keep the returns competitive but not to maintain a "historical" track record of say always above 7%.

PNB's style have always been to accumulate reserves during good times and used it wisely when time's aren't doing so good unlike their neighbors LTH who burnt through their meager reserves for "brownie points" till it required a warning from BNM (although of course the latter can't do much but "warn" as LTH is not under the purview of BNM or SC but have their own "act").
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Indeed. And reserves are also used to support the NAV of ASB to ensure that it stays around RM1. If NAV falls too much below RM1, it's essentially a risk to PNB. As unit holders are able to withdraw at RM1 price. If NAV rises above RM1 too much, it's also a risk to PNB as unit holders can buy ASB at RM1 price. There are risks in investment, and PNB has taken care of all the risks on behalf of unit trust holders. The reserves are in place for risk management purpose. Without it, fixed price unit trust is impossible.

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Jan 13 2017, 06:17 PM)
Indeed. And reserves are also used to support the NAV of ASB to ensure that it stays around RM1. If NAV falls too much below RM1, it's essentially a risk to PNB. As unit holders are able to withdraw at RM1 price. If NAV rises above RM1 too much, it's also a risk to PNB as unit holders can buy ASB at RM1 price. There are risks in investment, and PNB has taken care of all the risks on behalf of unit trust holders. The reserves are in place for risk management purpose. Without it, fixed price unit trust is impossible.
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Thanks.

Did not realise that point till you mentioned it here. Good point. Let me know when that happens and I will buy you 1 month of kopi O. Ha.
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post Jan 15 2017, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(wu ming @ Jan 12 2017, 12:56 PM)
Maybank is packed today.

Affin bank staff was kind enough to try multiple times to help achieve my target today.
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Just curious, which affin branch ya. Most Affin branches are keen?
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post Jan 15 2017, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 15 2017, 12:00 PM)
Just curious, which affin branch ya. Most Affin branches are keen?
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Yeah. Most affin bank branch should be no problem moving the money over.
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post Jan 15 2017, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 15 2017, 12:36 PM)
Yeah. Most affin bank branch should be no problem moving the money over.
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nice gonna open an account there. any specific reason why they are more keen? the keenest
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post Jan 15 2017, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 15 2017, 12:48 PM)
nice gonna open an account there. any specific reason why they are more keen? the keenest
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Opening account don't think they are keen. But topping up yes. Opening account see first page for places to open. Only need RM100. Also, after opening, update us the location so it can be added to first page.

Maybe because they have no customers?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 15 2017, 12:53 PM)
Opening account don't think they are keen. But topping up yes. Opening account see first page for places to open. Only need RM100. Also, after opening, update us the location so it can be added to first page.

Maybe because they have no customers?
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i already have accounts...just wanna top up
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post Jan 15 2017, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 15 2017, 12:54 PM)
i already have accounts...just wanna top up
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Top up only then no issues..
Its one of my top banks to do ASx transactions..

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