Wah until 100-300mm might be overkill liao. I am not planning to shoot bird or wildlife.

tats wat all of us here said.

It is normal to feel that the zoom that you carry in your hand is "not long enough", it is normal to feel like "what if I want to shoot something interesting, but the max zoom also can't get the tight frame I want". Trust me, I have Sigma 100-400mm fitted on Nikon D500, that's 600mm, for start, I do feel "not long enough", the question is how OFTEN you have that "not long enough" situation? If it is 99% of the time in your photowalk, then yes, you need that longest zoom 4/3 system can give you, you want it, you NEED it, you love it, go ahead and buy.

For now, I don't feel the need for 800mm, or 2000mm (Nikon P900, for example), I zoom with my leg, if it is so far and I die die must get that image, I crop!

"If your pictures aren't good enough, you aren't close enough” ~Robert Capa

Food for thought.

The A380 was shot by accident, I was aiming on the dragonfly at lakeside with 40-150mm Pro, heard the loud aeroplane ahead, look up, click (150mm), turn back to dragonfly.

This post has been edited by MBC270cdi: Oct 30 2019, 11:27 AM

How many kg is a typical lens like this one weighs?

this is m43. we are talking grams not kg.

the pana 100-300mm weighs 520g.

m43 lenses rarely weights over 900g, only 3 lenses weight more than that.

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Oct 30 2019, 12:07 PM

"If your pictures aren't good enough, you aren't close enough” ~Robert Capa
bad advice if your photographing lions or tigers.

anyway you are right zoom, macro and fisheye lenses are considered specialized and rarely get used.
but when you find situations tat you need it you start to regret...

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Oct 30 2019, 12:08 PM

haha…that quote best to apply on street photography. i believe that.

Hahaha. Bulk sometimes project the image of 'pro'ness. Thanks for the explanation.

cukur my 10-25mm is only 690g although it looks like a brick

here are the top 3 heavyweights

3) Panasonic Leica 100-400mm F4-6.3 985g
2) Panasonic Leica 200mm F2.8 1245g

and the winner is...
1) Olympus 300mm F4 Pro 1270g



makes the OMD looks puny in comparison

for full frame lens comparison...
Canon EF 600mm f/4.0L IS II USM 3920g

or maybe get the original version
Canon EF 600mm f/4.0L IS USM Lens 5366g

Seems like I might just get a 40-150R to see if I use that zoom range often or not

Remove the tripod collar, reduce lots of weight.
40-150 f2.8 pro used to be two handed operation, until I removed tripod collar and now I can comfortably single handed it.

U came to the right place

the weight given is without tripod collar.

with tripod collar the 300mm f4 pro weighs a total of 1475 g

come to think of it the collar alone weigh as much as some lenses.

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Oct 31 2019, 08:17 AM

a good telephoto zoom lens to start with if you ask me.
also you wont hurt your wallet until you upgrade.

Wo, heavy already with tripod collar removed. I only used once, as got 40-150 pro with MC14

Just don't go join those bird park outing, very poisonous

Ummmm why compare FF equivalent? To get similar light performance u need f2 lens on m43 which actually brings the weight on par with FF f4 lens.

We are comparing physical lens properties not light performance.

We know better not to compare light performance between format systems

If we did, we will not stop at FF and go all the way to MF.

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Nov 1 2019, 05:48 PM

Adui. F4 lens on m43 is like F8 on FF (if exist) of which the physical size of both lens will be almost the same. If u don't compare apple to apple images I.E. factoring Light and physical performance to make similar images, u might as well claim mobile phone camera is the king. There is a reason why when apple shoot commercial, they often have to attach giant a$$ lens in front of ipon.

Yes m43 overall do have smaller components overall especially the body but when u factor in equivalent light performance, bokeh, field of view, etc. then u will see "physical lens" won't be that much different than those of FF. There is a reason why some uses speedboosters with FF lens.

This post has been edited by TrialGone: Nov 1 2019, 05:59 PM

Yet you couldn’t find a nice FF lens as small and light as m43.