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 Why people fear of MLM ?, Do you guy really understand wat is MLM?

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nshady
post Feb 19 2007, 05:28 PM

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I know someone who's doing very well in MLM , he's a retiree...

Here are his words of wisdom:

1)In this business, get as many appointments as u could. He's trying to convincing me that he gets at least 3 appointments per day.

2)Whenever there's a seminar , contact all your downlines(so your downlines could bring people). Even just to SMS, he spent rm 70+ per round.

3) You have family & friends not wanting to join you or disagree how beneficial the program is? Omit them. Life goes on, do your own part and make your money.

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post Feb 19 2007, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(nshady @ Feb 19 2007, 05:28 PM)

3) You have family & friends not wanting to join you or disagree how beneficial the program is? Omit them. Life goes on, do your own part and make your money.
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Exactly. Life goes on, and go on and make your own money instead of giving those who has made up their minds not to join all sorts of crap on how great MLM is. Once somebody had mentioned the word 'no', then just leave them alone. Fix up the recruitment approaches, cut down on the holier than thou nonsense, and you'll see the image of MLMs start to improve.
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post Feb 19 2007, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(fyire @ Feb 19 2007, 05:47 PM)
Exactly. Life goes on, and go on and make your own money instead of giving those who has made up their minds not to join all sorts of crap on how great MLM is. Once somebody had mentioned the word 'no', then just leave them alone. Fix up the recruitment approaches, cut down on the holier than thou nonsense, and you'll see the image of MLMs start to improve.
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true....

jz like every work out there...
don make ppl force to do it....
let them do it willingly....

then the comment on certain job will be better....the image oso better...

i m not to say i dislike MLM....

but dislike a lot MLMers who....

too focusing on making quick money....

talking to them....u can sense....they r hunger for ur money...than serving u...

no point anymore....

image of any group implementing MLM/direct sales damaged by these ppls

that's the drawback of MLM....easy of absorbing diff ppl....

hence even ppl who so....money hunger....
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post Feb 20 2007, 02:56 AM

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MLM is a business that can really make a confirmation of success in wealth. But because of this main reason that destroy the whole plan of MLM. Everybody join MLM because of greedy and desire to be rich. Eventually, we all end up getting bad intention of MLM. MLM means sharing and building network with those who believe and willing to join. Is totally not about recruiting for 'kongsi gelap'.

I see some youngster, join MLM and force ppl to join them. Then, they also force their relative to join MLM without their willingness. They ignore those who didn't have the same point of view with them. But they didn't really learn about sharing and caring from the plan of MLM. They become more materialistic and more abandoned the world of poor.

Some ppl work like hell in MLM just for the sake of the upline and ignoring the downline that can't work as hard as them. This is one of the bad MLM that destroy the plan of MLM. My friends is already being ignore cause he can't able to build the new member. He have already attend the meeting and join the group discussion. Now, he have been ignored by his member until he left.

Still, I meet with some uncles and aunties who really make a fortune in MLM. They just humble about their position. They are friendly and caring without forcing me to join them. We just have different PATH IN OUR LIFE.

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post Feb 20 2007, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(dewill @ Feb 20 2007, 02:56 AM)
MLM is a business that can really make a confirmation of success in wealth. But because of this main reason that destroy the whole plan of MLM. Everybody join MLM because of greedy and desire to be rich. Eventually, we all end up getting bad intention of MLM. MLM means sharing and building network with those who believe and willing to join. Is totally not about recruiting for 'kongsi gelap'.

I see some youngster, join MLM and force ppl to join them. Then, they also force their relative to join MLM without their willingness. They ignore those who didn't have the same point of view with them. But they didn't really learn about sharing and caring from the plan of MLM. They become more materialistic and more abandoned the world of poor.

Some ppl work like hell in MLM just for the sake of the upline and ignoring the downline that can't work as hard as them. This is one of the bad MLM that destroy the plan of MLM. My friends is already being ignore cause he can't able to build the new member. He have already attend the meeting and join the group discussion. Now, he have been ignored by his member until he left.

Still, I meet with some uncles and aunties who really make a fortune in MLM. They just humble about their position. They are friendly and caring without forcing me to join them. We just have different PATH IN OUR LIFE.
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yup...attitude.....
only the right attitude will succeed in MLM.....
if u r not on the right attitude....leave MLM....coz u won succeed....
succeed by chance may b.....dunno...but will u succeed for long???
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post Feb 21 2007, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Feb 18 2007, 10:53 AM)
One thing for sure, MLM products is always over priced and over rate, anyone second that? Happy Chinese New Year to all biggrin.gif
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Not all MLM products are over priced. Futhermore, if one uses the product to be very good, he/she would be willing to pay for it.
For those who are think that the product of one's MLM company is expensive, try asking them what they are paying for. For instance, many facial stuff selling in the market had the first ingredient of Water, Aqua or other names to represent water. But some MLM company had other ingredient to be the first.

If the product had been checked through FDA, the first ingredient represent 60% of the whole bottle. In other words, if you are buying a cleanser in a pharmacy, the first ingredient is aqua, it means that the cleanser consist more water than other solution. So, why waste money to buy a product made out of water? If you want to say over priced item, in my personal oppionion, NuSkin would be over priced.
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post Feb 21 2007, 09:13 PM

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MLM won't have bright future in the Information (Internet) Age.

Insurance, can be said as one kind of MLM selling guarantee to end-users. Due to this, insurance succeeds.

But, conventional MLM, most of the human mind-set is cheating people ... hence, won't succeed.

Insurance ... Manager -> Lead Agent -> Agents -> end-user (consumer)
Conventional MLM ... Diamond -> Agents -> Agents -> Agents -> end-user/consumer (?)

Insurance chain -> ends with guarantee
Conventional MLM -> ends with products, if the products are ordinary ones, can you think of better reasons which are persuasive to ask end-users/consumers to continue having them?

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post Feb 21 2007, 09:23 PM

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For me,

1. MLM is the way to self-motivate in business field because everyday you will faced many prospect and many type of people.. You will know once u do MLM with enthuthiastic...

2. MLM is not giving upline rich than downline... because, IF the MLM use the legal system, its ok.. but IF they use scheme/binary system... so upline will rich than downline... by the way, IF you say the TOP will rich first, WHY NOT you try to join one NEW company, and feel your self... is it true or not what you are saying... :-)

3. MLM is the way you to set up a GROUP of Business Partner and do Teamwork.. So together be Rich! And at that time, you can run a conventional business which need huge capital... am i rite? So why people "dead" in MLM ? simple... they do not teamwork.. and everybody show off their f**k'n EGO... hmm.. hahaha! what a SILLY POOR people...

By the way... I'm now with a new company which has been set up by my previous leaders... I teamwork them because I don't want to miss again all these 3 above.... :-)
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post Feb 22 2007, 03:29 AM

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Lets list out the MLM company that you know of which is not written here and is still active.

1) Amway (Supermarket)
2) Cosway/ecosway (Supermarket)
3) Synergy (Skin Care / Health care)
4) Forever Living Product (Skin / Health / Cosmetic / Weight management / Daily care / Facial)
5) Phhp (Fiber/health care)
6) DCHL ( LB / Estebel ) aka (Air/skin)
7) Usana (Health Care)
8) Herbalife (Slimming )
9) Nu Skin (Facial)
10) Milelia (Health care)
11) FitLine (Health care/Weight Management/Skin care)

Correct me if i am wrong with the Company base product

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post Feb 22 2007, 10:11 AM

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is DXN considered?
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post Feb 22 2007, 10:26 AM

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I think people are not hear of MLM. People hate them. Recruiting people using immoral tactic. Then using pyramid scheme. Sell product that is not useful and price which is exorbitant.
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post Feb 22 2007, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(picozoo @ Feb 21 2007, 09:23 PM)
For me,

1. MLM is the way to self-motivate in business field because everyday you will faced many prospect and many type of people.. You will know once u do MLM with enthuthiastic...
Same goes for any other business types too. A person will need to have self motivation in whatever that he or she does.

QUOTE(picozoo @ Feb 21 2007, 09:23 PM)
2. MLM is not giving upline rich than downline... because, IF the MLM use the legal system, its ok.. but IF they use scheme/binary system... so upline will rich than downline... by the way, IF you say the TOP will rich first, WHY NOT you try to join one NEW company, and feel your self... is it true or not what you are saying... :-)
Same goes for any other business types too. There's good ways of running a business, and there's bad ways of doing so.

QUOTE(picozoo @ Feb 21 2007, 09:23 PM)
3. MLM is the way you to set up a GROUP of Business Partner and do Teamwork.. So together be Rich! And at that time, you can run a conventional business which need huge capital... am i rite? So why people "dead" in MLM ? simple... they do not teamwork.. and everybody show off their f**k'n EGO... hmm.. hahaha! what a SILLY POOR people...
Right, as if MLM is the only way to set up a business group or work in teams. Similarily speaking, it is very misleading to say that running of a conventional business will always need a huge capital, it all depends on how one approaches it all. In the same way, it can be said that MLM ppl also needs huge capital in order to show off their successes in order to gain more recruits.

Which is the same as just in any other business types as well, those who do not plan well and work together well dies.

No difference there.

QUOTE(picozoo @ Feb 21 2007, 09:23 PM)
By the way... I'm now with a new company which has been set up by my previous leaders... I teamwork them because I don't want to miss again all these 3 above.... :-)
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Same goes for any other business types also. The world is full of companies that are started off by ppl who had worked together elsewhere before, and decided to come together to start their own business.

All in all, its not as if MLM is any different from other types of business, irregardless of how MLM supporters like to harp on that fact. This is the main reason why a lot of ppl tend to be offended by the holier than thou attitudes that fuels the entire MLM recruitment.
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post Feb 22 2007, 11:22 AM

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What constitutes a business?

MLM always says that they provide a business opportunity. Telling us that we can be our own boss. Is that so?

For a business that I own, I can't make decisions about it:-
I can't lower the price if I wanted too.
I can't explore other products if I wanted too.
I don't determine how much I get (fixed by MLM Co., not yourself).
Etc etc

The bottom line is, you are still working for a company, sending money upwards.

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post Feb 22 2007, 12:49 PM

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Interesting topic.

Since Cosway is mentioned here then I think my gf is a member of this MLM-concept. However, unlike what are written here, she joined bcoz she like the products (used to buy fr other members). I also buy fr her the company products not bcoz I want to support her but I really do use them. Granted some are slightly overpriced compare to similar (but not the same, diffn packaging or ingredients) but some are really cheap.

But, pls dont ask me abt the quality esp. vitamins or shampoo coz Im not an expert on these matters. Come to think, how do I know that Guardians, Watson, pharmacies or clinics similar products are not crap either??

Cant really say we 100% believe in the products but at least here she can get extra benefit -- the point coupon which enables her to redeem stuff at cheaper price. Sad?! Common la, why do u think some ppl only refill at Shell or shop at Tesco... of course, to get points fr Bonuslink.

Anyway, going back to the MLM topic.

Yes perhaps, she is a member of one but this does not really means she is a supporter or a believer. In this case, she (and me) is just a USER. Although, sometimes her frens also buy stuff using her account which means more coupons for her! That's all.

For us, recruiting more ppl to expand the downline/network, whatever you called it, in order to gain more benefit (esp. in monetary term) just doesnt feel right. Guess, we are the MLM-mentality kind of ppl!!

If not mistaken, in Bahasa they also called MLM as majlis larut malam because these teh tarik session or "recruiting" meetings normally take place until dawn. l










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i'm fine with MLM SELLING PRODUCTS, infact i believe their products are top notch.
but there are WRONG MLM that ask you recruit member more than SELLING.
that is why people are scared of MLM.


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post Feb 22 2007, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Anodize @ Feb 22 2007, 03:29 AM)
Lets list out the MLM company that you know of which is not written here and is still active.

1) Amway (Supermarket)
2) Cosway/ecosway (Supermarket)
3) Synergy (Skin Care / Health care)
4) Forever Living Product (Skin / Health / Cosmetic / Weight management / Daily care / Facial)
5) Phhp (Fiber/health care)
6) DCHL ( LB  / Estebel ) aka (Air/skin)
7) Usana (Health Care)
8) Herbalife (Slimming )
9) Nu Skin (Facial)
10) Milelia (Health care)

Correct me if i am wrong with the Company base product
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add another to the list

11) FitLine (Health care/Weight Management/Skin care)

anymore in the market?

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added Fitline... but seriously, i never heard of it... Is DXN active at all?
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post Feb 23 2007, 01:32 AM

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if someone planning to do business... any kind of business... they should have these important thing...

1. A capital.. (big or small)
2. System / strategy
3. A networking or A group of business partner

So.. step 1 and 2 maybe no problem.. but the step 3... MOST of people don't have.. and that's why they'll be loser...
Here, it's not easy to get step 3 rite.. So, if someone has understand business, he/she will know what to do, to get the step 3... How? there are many way... such as MLM... that's why doing MLM is not just for MONEY... dude.. don't be silly... make a good relationship with MLM partners... becoz one day you will see the benefits...
That's the main point of me to do MLM... not becoz of money... but for future planning...
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post Feb 23 2007, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(picozoo @ Feb 23 2007, 01:32 AM)
if someone planning to do business... any kind of business... they should have  these important thing...

1. A capital.. (big or small)
2. System / strategy
3. A networking or A group of business partner

So.. step 1 and 2 maybe no problem.. but the step 3... MOST of people don't have.. and that's why they'll be loser...
Here, it's not easy to get step 3 rite.. So, if someone has understand business, he/she will know what to do, to get the step 3... How? there are many way... such as MLM... that's why doing MLM is not just for MONEY... dude.. don't be silly... make a good relationship with MLM partners... becoz one day you will see the benefits...
Just like in any other business, the most important thing is business and industrial contacts from all over the place. Nothing unique there.

And despite that step 3 that you mentioned that's being provided by MLMs, the success rates of MLM is still very low too. Just like any other businesses. Therefore its not as if MLM is that much better.

QUOTE(picozoo @ Feb 23 2007, 01:32 AM)
That's the main point of me to do MLM... not becoz of money... but for future planning...
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Just like in any other business, the most important thing is to have a long term strategy that can carry the business forwards too. Nothing unique there about MLM either.

Basically you are correct in what you say, but you only say half of the facts, of which I am filling in the other half for you, the half that MLM ppl tend to conveniently leave out.

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post Feb 23 2007, 04:40 PM

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yeah mr fyire rclxms.gif thanks for those comments...

here, i think you are searching a different between MLM and other business... but you don't see it...aite? have you ever do MLM, sir?
If yes,
can u share an experience while running this type of business?

If no,
why?

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