Melilia and DXN sucks

hehehe..TS since not replying ady....maybe he dont want to tell us wat mlm he wokring for. or he joined.

check TS last active 28th February 2007 - 11:21 PM, just wait and see.

Well, the entire thing smells more of a MLM promoting attempt to me. Even the very first post reaks of that. If you're to notice the wordings when he talks about success and riches and so forth? There's the usual implied crap that MLM's the only way for one to accomplish that.

Somehow, i think it is wise to respect each and everyone's decision on what to do with their life... one might disagree with the MLM marketing strategy but one might not. There is actually no right or wrong doing MLM.... just that one must really look into the MLM company before really start pursuing in their sales...

whoaa.. today i read the KOSMO... damn it... the ******* people out there has use the wrong way to do MLM then make it as scheme... so everybody point it to MLM..!! i really argue with the KOSMO statement that alway use the word "MLM" as the main point to attack... there was a thousand scheme programme out there, most of in the internet... then, the true MLM company with no scheme got mark now as CHEATING people or mostly student...... really2 angry with this news... please stop use the word "MLM" if there is a scheme... it 'is exactly not the same!

btw, some of them (KOSMO staff) oso join some scheme, like "bla bla" and "bla bla bla"... hehe cannot write here lor.... and one of them are the big leader oso.... what the hell....

Exactly what I'm saying. But do keep in mind that the respect that you speak of needs to be both ways, unlike the kind of attitude taken by the MLM companies and supporters in their promotions.

Fix that messed up attitude, and you'll see the image of MLM start to improve. Until then, it'll forever be that whack here and whack there won't it?

Basically that's one of the hypocritical things I find here. Talk about the need to respect those who had chosen MLM, but the MLM recruitment system itself does not respect those who chosed not to go for it.

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Added on March 6, 2007, 9:57 amNow, here's some reality check for you. Since MLM campaigns and promotion methods tend to tell everybody that anybody who's not involved in MLM is forever stuck in a rat race and is doomed to face a life without any goals and all that crap irregardless of whatever reasons a person has got for not wanting to go into MLM, its kinda ironic now isnt it? That those who are supporting MLM is now grumbling about the blanket blame places upon MLM.

I'm not saying that such is right or wrong, but just a different perspective for you to consider your views on.

This post has been edited by fyire: Mar 6 2007, 09:57 AM

kekeke~
mr fyire.. i think it's not an ironic... for me, even i'm angry with that news, but i'm oso laughing coz people in country now, sorry to say lah, can't think about it... becoz of what? becoz, they always looking for money, so then they will involve in money scheme oso... no matter what they said NO NO NO to MLM.. that's why almost 80% of people does not have a luxury life till now, even they said they had joined this field for a long time and give up... why? coz do no how the right way to do maaa...~ if u know how to eat, and what to eat, so u will kenyang lorr... if not? hahaha~ this is the situation laa...

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Added on March 6, 2007, 5:47 pmwhahaha... why u said suck bro?

This post has been edited by picozoo: Mar 6 2007, 05:47 PM

Well, you being angry with the bad publicity that's been tagged to MLM does show that its ironic.

Does not mean that those who believe in MLM does not get involved in such schemes either. So nothing unique about MLM there either.

Does not mean that those who had joined MLM for a long time and have not given up r successful either. Nothing unique there about MLM either.

Does not mean that MLM is the only way to success here either. Nothing unique about MLM either in that aspect.

You see, that's the hypocritical thing here about the MLM thingy. Its just another business model, that's all, unlike what a lot of MLM supporters like to claim otherwise. Nothing unique about it in terms of its success ratio, also unlike what a lot of MLM supporters like to claim otherwise, when the truth is the success ratio is pretty low too. And just like other business types, just 'cause you know how to do it right does not guratantee success either, unlike what a lot of MLM supporters tries to claim.

the fact of MLM.

1 people rise, 10 people die. the winner step on 10 loser corpse and shine.

More than 10 for 1 actually. The actual statistics r far lower than a 10% success ratio.

I know lar, make it sounds rhyme abit mar

hehe, quote my own post again..hope you guys dont mind. just shows how low is the success rate..

last time i aso join mlm company call exkxx...it really hard to clamb so i quit ..
but currently i join another mlm .. but this is not involve and buying prodcut .. this mlm is provide lifestyle package like spa, gym, pub .. the most attract me is got medical card with highest protection about 800k
and if find ppl join this package i aso can earn more then 1k per person..
since i have own full time job .. i not active person in this company just enjoy the membership ..
but this company is grow very rapidly within 1 year .....
so last time i join mlm i know how feel how hard to find ppl buy product form u ....
so now i very happy to join this membership even i not to find ppl ...

Right.... I missed out MGM.... lol... but if you come to realise it,

The company is making the money.
To ask someone to join, That person must have a Credit card
They will lock your credit limit for the amount to be paid to the company. (similiar to loan)
Their so called no ending commision is sort of fake. It will be cut of until certain lvl down.
If the person you reffered to join, and he had an accident, you are not the expert to do the claims and stuff.
To have a medical claim of up to 800k, it means that the person have no reason to live after an accident.
Having partnership with Pathlab for 2 year, meaning that if within the 2 years and the sales are not good, Pathlab would actually discontinue the partnership.

The good thing about it maybe the lifestyle you are looking for... but how many spa there is? if every single member goes to the spa, what will happen? And if you have a full time job, you can hardly find time to go for those lifestyle stuff.

pathlab and MGM is from same big boss u know ? so how pathlab can discontinue the partnership????
my currently work hour is just until 6pm.. so after this i can go to enjoy spa after work or other lifestyle thing ...

I know that... But i guess you are not a business lady... when i said about discontinuing the partnership, i mean it in business terms...

What is the definition of success in MLM?

I would like to requote an old post ie TS's first post, and do some anotomy on it..

Its long winded like an old lady.

I still dont understand why ppl refuse to accept or either listen to MLM. It just another kind of business model or marketing model that doing tradisional business == selling things/product.
The reality is we can't force people to follow your enthusiasm, or force people to listen to things that they do not interested. And the structure of your sentence, just like any other MLM'er, is half true and half fiction, is misleading people to think that "people hate MLM coz its selling things/products"

There are no such thing where you can get free. Doing MLM is just like doing ordinary sales jobs. What make MLM so different is only the mindset of the person.
The keyword is mindset here, naturally people tends to have negative mindset, and your mindset determine the outcome you getting, just like an MLM'er like yourself, your mindset is at the point where "MLM is the only way to earn $$$", then there is no way you can success in your ACCA, engineering, doctorate... etc.

Imagine one day you join a sales company, you still need to sell your company product no matter you like the product or not, or whether the product good or bad. You do that just because your boss paying you a small amount of money and you are giving him your time and effort.
Your statement is not true due to unreal assumption, which is based on your mindset of "everything else is bad other then MLM". A saleman who unable to make sales will be retired after a testing period, a MLM'er who unable to make sales/get new member will disappear after sometime.

Ppl keeping complaint about MLM that cheat ppl, bullshit, scam ..... I still dont understand why? I believe if MLM company offer basic salary to it distributor and commit them to achieve target, I think it almost same like ordinary sales job. But MLM company do not do so, so ppl trend to giving excuse saying this saying that.
There are many reason ppl keep complaining about MLM, but generally: ppl had bad experience with it. And whats more, it is MLM operators themselves who worsen the name, they will say "MLM is bad because its a pyramid scheme and etc etc, our system is better becoz its fair due to etc etc". They do it because they can get attention by following people interest: MLM r bad.

Hey, come on... that is the only place that you can determine how far you wan to go and how much you wan to earn. World is getting smaller due to globalization, if you have the network in your hand, you will be the one that can make tone of money and opportunity.
Another generalization which only works for some fresh youngsters, which is half true and half wrong, people can easily confused and then believe in it and fallen into it. World getting smaller: true; network = money: true; MLM is the only place that you can determine how far you can go: wrong -> you can determine how far you can go in ANY CAREER.

When MLM didnt control you on your sales target, you say ppl bullshit or cheating, a sales company that control you and want you to achieve salas target, you work like a dog to archieve the target and bring huge sales to company by getting a small amount of commision. Dont your guy this it is unfair compare with the effort you putting in.
This is baseless arguement, many people complain come with full reference and proof. No matter what, you make the best use of your effort. And you structured your sentence as if one need to work like a dog in outside sales, and give people impression that its heaven in MLM.

After work for few year in sales company, you might be a super sale man, but imagine one day you are not able to work ... wat you will get, the boss will fire you and pay you extra two month salary else you might get your insurance claim if you have one with you.
It is known as financial planning for retirement. And very important to not to rely on a salary from your boss as an ultimate goal. Being a super salesman give you the ability to acquire properties, perform investment, etc.

Dont your guy ever thinking of getting passive income that will make your life better and better in the future ? I believe everyone is looking better life and hoping of getting passive income when their stop working.
Who doesn't? And the next thing you will try to do is give people impression that MLM is the only way to generate passive income.

But, ppl trend to oni thinking but not action .... saying this cannot, that one cheating , this impossible ... Have you ever think of wat is impossible and wat is cannot?
You contra yourself in this sentence, first you say ppl only think no action, then in the end you ask ppl to think of wat is impossible wat is cannot. No matter MLM or sales or even planting chili, you need action to make it happen.

When ppl say human can flying like a bird with it own wing is cannot, when ppl say human can run like sport car with it own leg is impossible ... but their are ppl earn a lot in MLM, there is prove , so it is possible and can be done .. just how much your determination you have been giving out ... how much effort you have put in ....
Nearly all of the oil palm planters gained a wealthy profit at the recent palm oil price hike, how many % of MLM'er earned a handsome income? Of course it is possible to success in MLM, just how likely one could success is another thing. PS: its also possible to win big sweep jack pot, RM9mil next draw.

There are ppl keep on say bad to MLM because they cant do it not others can not do. when you ask them "Have you try it with your full force ?" ... I believe they might not able to answer you. This is because they oni join in and have a look, hoping getting good money in short period, after that jump out when they cant make it in short period .. then they will keep saying MLM cannot do and bullshit .... walau ... this is very unfair to those who putting effort in this business ....
There are a couple of generalization again in this sentense, lets go thru it one by one:
- ppl say MLM ba becoz they cant do not others cant do: if this is the case, that ppl at least tried it and now sharing pass experience with friends. Actually there are more who "I heard that MLM bad, my uncles's bro in law's wife's colleagues ah..."
- "Have you try it with your full force?": many didn't, and even more not even trying, as you said, believe in it, these are people who believe in other things, and when you nailing on people who disbelieve MLM, should you disbelieve on things that other people believe as well? If so, aren't you just an anti-antiMLM who thinks that the rest of the population are wrong? Yes, this is a very important point to success, but rather then disbelieving things, you believe in what you believe, be positive to success, coz you never success by being negative to anything.
- hoping getting good money in short period: well this is the impression that ALL MLM'er gave to new prospect, for eg, MLM'er vs CEO thingy, the first one only required 5 years to achieve wat the latter can achieve in 10 years.
- unfair to those who putting effort: what unfair of? You expect everyone open arm and welcome you? This is reality. And effort doesn't mean equal return. You yourself also keep attacking regular salesmen cannot, isn't this is also unfair to them?!

For this kind of ppl, plz dont think of driving BMW, staying pent house in their young age except those with a rich dad .... they are many young ppl i meet who really work hard for their dream and achieve excellent result in their life.
Hold on, its just a car, and a BMW doesn't give u passive income. And there are so many ways to own a BMW, not just MLM'er. Furthermore, not everybody want a BMW, pent house, etc.

I myself just want a 4x4 for example. And I want a farm side house. And can you say that I am just another idiot who unable to realized wawasan MLM?

Conclusion,

those who deserve to be rich & successful= do and believe wat ever they think is right.
True, believing in yourself first before make others to believe in you. Remember, self believing doesn't mean disproving others.

those who deserve poor & fail = talk and something they might not try and dont dare to try.
Nobody deserve to be poor & fail. Nobody deserve to have an empty stomach. You claimed people being unfair to your MLM, why did you make this conclusion??

No heart feeling to anyone, just my opinion on nows day ppl when their meet up MLM.
Indeed, very indeed, the previous sentence is indeed a "no-heart feeling".

Think of your life, remember .. you are the one who determine your rest of life, no one can do that for you.
This is a great conclusion line, the difference is just whether you saying this to a drug addicts or someone you think who doesn't understand MLM.

According to TS, the definition of success in MLM means
- passive income in early age
- drive BMW
- stay pent house

Well, my definition of success is
- you no need to fear that your income will be taken away
- your business will run itself even if you are not there
- income from your business will give you all the basic needs and with more to spare
- you have time to enjoy your spare income with your family

This post has been edited by rexis: Apr 28 2008, 11:17 AM

good article ...