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 Why people fear of MLM ?, Do you guy really understand wat is MLM?

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jamkuwong
post Feb 16 2007, 03:32 PM

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whoa, after reading tons of idea regarding MLM, I personally hate it. I do have afren who lost contact for several years, suddently call me for yam cha. What I get from the yam cha session is another brainwashing session. SHxT !!! Well LYN is not the place for MLM to recruit ppl, rite?
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post Feb 16 2007, 03:33 PM

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ten of ten ...MLM likes to boost their image ... of driving big car and fat income ....and giving incentive trips

and those people whom into this MLM ... will evetually knows that ... the "recruiter" is telling the whole "TRUTH"

yes ... one has to be commited and work hard to the concept that one desire ... meaning how much you want to earn ... cos ... the sky is the limit in MLM ....but ... sad that MLM ... always attract people ...when one has 'NO options" in life ...... better then this MLM ...


so the company of MLM will conduct talks on how to earn the $$$$ ...with their company by saying how good is their company ... blar blar blar .. so on and so on

then rising one .."agent" up into the heaven by motivation talks ... when he or she only has qualification of primary school....

and name him or her ... the "director" or some title which has high rangking profile

so..... how one is going to measure this "rangking"

if proven that MLM is that good ... then why bother to educated our self so high .....

finish primary school ... go work for MLM Company .. let them train you to be ... The Best of MLM person ...

I hope one can see the "Actual" fantasy ... picture painted the by the MLM company


its time to wake up ...!!!!
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post Feb 16 2007, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(jamkuwong @ Feb 16 2007, 03:32 PM)
whoa, after reading tons of idea regarding MLM, I personally hate it. I do have afren who lost contact for several years, suddently call me for yam cha. What I get from the yam cha session is another brainwashing session. SHxT !!! Well LYN is not the place for MLM to recruit ppl, rite?
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aiya MLM needs to recruit members to survive, once the recruiting stops, the money also stops so have to promote here and try to brainwash again loh or not how to finance the 9 year old loan BMW to show off.

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post Feb 16 2007, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(ahwooi @ Jan 29 2007, 05:44 PM)
I still dont understand why ppl refuse to accept or either listen to MLM. It just another kind of business model or marketing model that doing tradisional business == selling things/product.
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if u dun understand, try find other business model to work on that MOST ppl will accept.

QUOTE(ahwooi @ Jan 29 2007, 05:44 PM)
There are no such thing where you can get free. Doing MLM is just like doing ordinary sales jobs. What make MLM so different is only the mindset of the person.
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then why u not do ordinary sales job?


QUOTE(ahwooi @ Jan 29 2007, 05:44 PM)
Ppl keeping complaint about MLM that cheat ppl, bullshit, scam ..... I still dont understand why? I believe if MLM company offer basic salary to it distributor and commit them to achieve target, I think it almost same like ordinary sales job. But MLM company do not do so, so ppl trend to giving excuse saying this saying that.
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ppl complain coz they have bad experience. And aren't u complaining here as well regarding the ppl that FAILED to understand "MLM" ?

its not "excuse" they r making, its real bad experience they have gotten thru b4.


QUOTE(ahwooi @ Jan 29 2007, 05:44 PM)
Hey, come on... that is the only place that you can determine how far you wan to go and how much you wan to earn. World is getting smaller due to globalization, if you have the network in your hand, you will be the one that can make tone of money and opportunity.

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Money again huh? there r many ways to achieve monetary success and happiness. JUst let them b4, u wiv ur MLM , and them wiv their ideals and aims. If u wan entice ppl to join ur MLM, please do it the polite way. Next time u fall ill and desperately finding a clinic to treat u, but u found out all the Dr's all quitted to do their MLM stuff. imagine that.



Why u using the "globalization" keywrod? Opportunites from globalization also benefits non MLM jobs.

QUOTE(ahwooi @ Jan 29 2007, 05:44 PM)
When MLM didnt control you on your sales target, you say ppl bullshit or cheating, a sales company that control you and want you to achieve salas target, you work like a dog to archieve the target and bring huge sales to company by getting a small amount of commision. Dont your guy this it is unfair compare with the effort you putting in.

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A bunch a whinings n whining. Didnt ur MLM teach u not to easily succumb to negative response and continue push on wiv your effort?


QUOTE(ahwooi @ Jan 29 2007, 05:44 PM)
After work for few year in sales company, you might be a super sale man, but imagine one day you are not able to work ... wat you will get, the boss will fire you and pay you extra two month salary else you might get your insurance claim if you have one with you.

Dont your guy ever thinking of getting passive income that will make your life better and better in the future ? I believe everyone is looking better life and hoping of getting passive income when their stop working.

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Very common MLM bait u mentioned here. Why u need bothered with that? All jobs have risks, MLMs or not.

I wan a better life. I have my ways to achieve it. Don't think only MLM provided that. boy u can be a great religious scholar!



QUOTE(ahwooi @ Jan 29 2007, 05:44 PM)

When ppl say human can flying like a bird with it own wing is cannot, when ppl say human can run like sport car with it own leg is impossible ... but their are ppl earn a lot in MLM, there is prove , so it is possible and can be done .. just how much your determination you have been giving out ... how much effort you have put in ....

For this kind of ppl, plz dont think of driving BMW, staying pent house in their young age except those with a rich dad .... they are many young ppl i meet who really work hard for their dream and achieve excellent result in their life.

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Sure there are. those r the 0.1% ppl that got damn rich at the expenses of 99.9% fallen ones. U too, can be the 0.1%, but dont expect ppl to admire or respect u that coz of ur wealth (bring 'em inside ur coffin if u will). U haven't done anything for the betterment of this world, so doesn't deserve ppl's admiration.

haiya.... driving BWM, penthouse ... its about $ again ar. ur so called excellent result = $$$$$$. earth is doomed with ppl like u.



QUOTE(ahwooi @ Jan 29 2007, 05:44 PM)

Conclusion,
those who deserve to be rich & successful= do and believe wat ever they think is right.
those who deserve poor & fail = talk and something they might not try and dont dare to try.
No heart feeling to anyone, just my opinion on nows day ppl when their meet up MLM.
Think of your life, remember .. you are the one who determine your rest of life, no one can do that for you.
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MY CONCLUSION
u think ur MLM work is right, I think my non-MLM work is right
yes... those u didnt try deserve failures... i'm trying in my NON-MLM jobs and aims.


Added on February 16, 2007, 4:21 pmI always laugh at ppl like TS.
When such ppl got frustrated of rejection, they blame those who rejected him as "dunt understand" what he's trying to "sell".

he also no go face the mirror and think. wat is wrong wiv the things he's doing. All d seminars he gone thru, as usual will tell only and ONLY 100% good bout his MLM. nothing is 100% good. I bet most of the points he put in his topic, are generic phrases and "baits" as stated in their "recruitment manual".... like "financial freedom", "driving BMW,living bungalow" bla bla bla. its not even stuff from his own mind or brain.

gud luck to him though. wish him not whine too much. just do what he thinks is right enuf la.


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post Feb 16 2007, 10:24 PM

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my opinion is dat if u think i can do well wif mlm just go for a try. from wat i had survey. more den 50 % wil face failure after they had try it. so, it just wasting their time n money. just my 2 cents. tongue.gif
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post Feb 17 2007, 12:50 AM

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hmm why everyone using LB as bad example only?
very boring already la. can give other examples or not? whistling.gif
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post Feb 17 2007, 02:14 AM

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well... there are other MLM company that uses binary system where the concept of binary system are mainly the company that earns as there is not a chance of balancing your both leg and stuff... I myself had been through ecosway with their binary system.

There is a saying that you can control how many children you have but you cannot control how many grand children you have thus if you think again, binary system is just the same. You can have 2 leg... but you cannot control your leg to have how many other legs and so on.

Why did we mention of LB is because LB had caused many to fail till down to earth as some had gone borrowing money all over and some even borrowed the loan shark and some cheating their parents that took PTPTN loan for it. And i heard that there are even some that sacrifice their own body to do it. LB just gone over the limit of the so called "Investment". I believe that there are lots of other MLM company that does not require that sum of money to start a business or "opportunity".

The reason why i am posting all this is not because recruiting people but just to let everyone that reads this thread aware of the MLM company around you and not to be cheated by it. For those that wanted to know more about any plan they come across, you can always PM me. I would gladly explain it why it would be a failure.
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post Feb 17 2007, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(xsaintx @ Feb 17 2007, 12:50 AM)
hmm why everyone using LB as bad example only?
very boring already la. can give other examples or not? whistling.gif
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i use LB as an example because it is a famous thingy that occurs around us which brought disaster to most of my friends. I heard from my friend who stayed in Banting, he told me dont ever talk about LB in Banting. People just hate it cause it brought so much disaster to people in that area with the idea of fast,easy earning money.. Think wisely before you decide to join this MLM thingy
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QUOTE(junnie87 @ Feb 17 2007, 10:44 AM)
i use LB as an example because it is a famous thingy that occurs around us which brought disaster to most of my friends. I heard from my friend who stayed in Banting, he told me dont ever talk about LB in Banting. People just hate it cause it brought so much disaster to people in that area with the idea of fast,easy earning money.. Think wisely before you decide to join this MLM thingy
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it seems like when mlm is mentioned the only thing that comes into mind is LB. i feel its unfair, becos not all mlm company r scams and not all requires rm30k. and nowadays there're new mlm concepts that actually breaks away from the ol' traditional recruit-many-many-downlines-to-earn-more-money way.
yes, i agree tat u must think wisely before joining, at the same time, CHOOOSE wisely which mlm u want to join.
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QUOTE(xsaintx @ Feb 17 2007, 11:20 AM)
it seems like when mlm is mentioned the only thing that comes into mind is LB. i feel its unfair, becos not all mlm company r scams and not all requires rm30k. and nowadays there're new mlm concepts that actually breaks away from the ol' traditional recruit-many-many-downlines-to-earn-more-money way.
yes, i agree tat u must think wisely before joining, at the same time, CHOOOSE wisely which mlm u want to join.
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I know its a bit far fetch, but there's a hitch telling me that you are in MLM. Why not tell us which MLM you joined and we'll give you the other truth, apart from all the "truth" you were brainwashed. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Feb 17 2007, 02:20 PM)
I know its a bit far fetch, but there's a hitch telling me that you are in MLM. Why not tell us which MLM you joined and we'll give you the other truth, apart from all the "truth" you  were brainwashed. whistling.gif
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ur wrong, im not in any mlm smile.gif
dont have the time and im lazy to work...
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post Feb 17 2007, 08:10 PM

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MLM system use downline to get money..if u have many downline,for sure u get the reward..u are not selling the product but u push people to join it..
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Not because they fear MLM, they just fear trap in debt biggrin.gif
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yes, MLM may earn alot of money if they have many downline. However, if we pursue people around us, asking them to invest in the MLM with an amount roughly about RM 2k, who in the world has that amount of money to invest in something that we cant see the possibility of success? I'm taking LB as an example because people around me talks about LB alot. You see, LB was active in TAR college, Setapak. Luring students to join and then they can expand. These so called upline people only think of money money and money. EVerytime they approach a person who does not have RM 2k to join them, they will pursue that person to ask money from family, borrow from friends or borrow from 'people'. They assure them of success. Well, since they can GUARANTEE them success, why dont they lend the person the money and ask him to return the money when he has earned his money in MLM. Therefore, these uplines are uncertain about the success of those people they lured in. Why take the risk then?
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My mom is currently working full time in a MLM company. She is successful and all my uni + living fees in the NZ for 4 years is fully paid by her money earned in this MLM company. I know because every month she transferred money to my account using her Taiwanese account. Taiwan is where she started her MLM career.

Most of my relatives are in MLM and so is my brother and my father. I am not. Why? Because I don't believe it is a business for everyone. Just like not every job is a one size fits all. You CAN earn a lot if you work really really hard and expand your network, just like you CAN climb up the corporate ladder if you work realy really hard and expand your network.

I myself, I HATE selling. I really don't know how to ask people to buy this and buy that, that is why I am not in this line. But if you like selling and pushing your products to people around you and you really believe in your product, I don't see anything wrong. If you don't work hard, you wont be successful, just like if you don't work hard you'll always stay as a clerk. I don't see anything wrong with MLM if it is legit, ie, not those who just come into the market, scam people, and get out of the market. Some people do use the company to scam people, but do not blame the MLM company. It's just like blaming cars for accidents, and not the people behind the wheels.

I'm not saying which MLM my family is in NOT because I have something to hide, because I foresee people flaming me and accusing me of trying to recruit people when I'm just giving my 2 cents. Thanks.
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MLM is a new type of marketing strategy. People is not fear of MLM, but don't know how to reject a friend. For me, if a stranger approach me and preach about MLM, I will listen if I'm interested, and I will ask him/her go off if I'm not interested.

Anyway, normally our closed friends always approach us to talk about MLM after him/her join it. This is the thing I fear of. I don't want to lose a friend, but sometime I'm really not interested in certain products which are sold by MLM...Personally, I feel that MLM is a good way to promote and market a product or service...
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One thing for sure, MLM products is always over priced and over rate, anyone second that? Happy Chinese New Year to all biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Feb 18 2007, 12:10 AM)
MLM is a new type of marketing strategy. People is not fear of MLM, but don't know how to reject a friend. For me, if a stranger approach me and preach about MLM, I will listen if I'm interested, and I will ask him/her go off if I'm not interested.

Anyway, normally our closed friends always approach us to talk about MLM after him/her join it. This is the thing I fear of. I don't want to lose a friend, but sometime I'm really not interested in certain products which are sold by MLM...Personally, I feel that MLM is a good way to promote and market a product or service...
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Leekk8,

Only if those people promoting MLM are honest to begin. They will usually disguise themselves as some kind of NEW and SPECIAL business. If they come right out and tell you that it is MLM, people can reject them quickly and easily without wasting a lot of effort.

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These are some of the statements MLMers make which is half truth:-

1.) Anyone can do it.
Real truth:- Anyone can do it but not everyone can succeed. The thing is even if you don't succeed, it doesn't matter to the top level as they have already gotten your membership fees. So if you don't succeed, they have already gotten the profit from you, and if you succeed , they'll make even more profit from you. It's a case of heads I win, tails you lose.

2.) Mr x has join MLM x company for 2 years, now driving 5 series and just bought a bungalow.
Real truth:- Chances of you getting to this level is probably less than 0.3%. whiich means out of 1000 people, only perhaps 3 with make to this level , the rest are all losers.

3.)Joining MLM is more secure than your day to day job.
Real truth :- How can it be more secure when the success rate is so low? You have to also remember that you must be constantly recruiting or buying stuff. Once the recruiting stops by your downline or yourself, your income will drop tremendously.










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well....TS never post anymore for so long.....

MLM is a different model from ordinary bz....
again....all these things are tools.....for ur career....
honesty in the bz......lies to the person in it....
there are also ppl doing business by cheating ppl.....
out of 100 ppl....there always ppl who do bz right way...
and success from there....
some will be moderate....
and some will fail.....

so some will do it with good ethics....
some half half.....and some don....

the reason MLM getting such response is bcoz....
it directly reveals one's personality.....

with it, u c clearly one's in beneath

i see some ppl mentioned of GoldQuest and StudioTraffics up there...
ignore those who cheating ppl and selling overpriced stuff....

i c dif ppl around me succeed or fail in MLM/direct sales...
all it relies is on ppl's attitudes.....

e.g. insurance....the agent is the key person....
bcoz agent serving the customer.....
however, some agent is money-oriented than ppl-oriented...
if u care ppl from heart, don worry....ppl will come to u...
live example there is....

jz 1 word for MLMer
don sell ur friendship for your career.....
u ll regret....and u never able to "buy" it back....

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