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post Oct 23 2016, 05:23 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 23 2016, 02:09 AM)
The only shipyard capable of building aircraft carrier is located in what now known as Ukraine. deswai they had to buy mistral from france(b4 america via germoney blocked the transfer)

nowadays russian shipyard could only build smaller ship like gepard.
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also Russia lost all marine engine capability because the manufacture located in Mykolaiv, Ukraine too.
other reason is after USSR separation, Russia or Ukraine has 30 year never built large ship (no money) all ship expertise & engineer already retire or dead.
so now they have to buy Mistraal to learn the modem construction of large navy ship. only advantage is Russia still have very good steel industry can produce high hardness steel to built Submarine, SPH and aircraft carrier. but without engine still problem for russia. that why Russia keen take back Ukraine, specially Mykolaiv city
as results Crimea join Russia, and Crimea capital Sevastopol is very important ship industry city like ship school, design, material, ship machinery, few shipyard built ship/Landing Craft. also aircraft & helicopter industry。

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post Oct 23 2016, 05:54 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Oct 23 2016, 02:23 AM)
Actually wats the criteria to hv a shipyard capable of building large vessels like carriers?
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hardware 。。
- Dry dock 380 meter x 70 meter for 100,000 tons aircraft carrier (depend carriers size)
- Dry dock Gantry Crane minimum 900 tons
- Heavy industry capability to produce high hardness steel (aircraft carrier spec steel)
- worker Welding capability + robot welding capability。
- shipyard capability to Integration all equipment, module & system
- other assume radar, engine, propulsion, landing arrester, catapult。can be source/import
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post Oct 23 2016, 05:58 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 23 2016, 02:16 AM)
china frigate? SAM?
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2 year ago PM vsit china have memorandum on china made SAM,not sure how is progress.
if LMS than should be ok.
i like shocking news like Malaysia buy+take part of FC31 project....hahaha... (dream)

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post Oct 25 2016, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 25 2016, 09:05 PM)
klu itu matchiam baik guna design gagsh samudera je
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gagsh samuder design not suitable as current generation navy ship operation..
for training ship is ok.。。。

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post Oct 25 2016, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 25 2016, 08:23 PM)
Prolly if we're getting a token number (like, 3 or 4) I wouldn't have much issue with china made LMS

Problem is we're getting 18. considering budget cap of usd50mil per ship, rmn oso has less room to wiggle around for tailor-made electronic suite abd weapon system.

and then there's the concern that china wiill install backdoor to these ship that will compromise the entire defence network, something we have painstakingly developed for the last 20 years.

operating this ship in isolation (independent of C4I) is also not practical due to sheer number of LMS to ne procured.
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i don't think is china is worry so small ship make to Malaysia. even they not worry at all to sell as 4000 tons navy ship
consider there size and capability of there fleet.
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post Oct 25 2016, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 25 2016, 08:34 PM)
There aren't much weapon suite.
It only have main guns.
For now we still do not know if it using western system or chinese system.
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i believe standard item just like usually navy use, like Navigation system by OSI WECDIS & 3D chat, Kelvin Hughes Navigation radar, MTU engine etc ....
and no issue integrate western surveillance radar. bcos new generation China made navy ship is compatible to Europian system, specially France radar. hopefully Thales NS100 radar will use. maybe about too much for USD 50mil ship.
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post Oct 25 2016, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 25 2016, 10:26 PM)
fukken loled!  laugh.gif
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can explain more easy understanding english ... too complex word never sea.
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post Oct 25 2016, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 25 2016, 09:27 PM)
the gagah samudera is perfect to train sailors that later will go on to the kedah and gowind class
but not a really suitable candidate for future lms
it has double the tonnage (1200t) compared to the projected size of the lms (600t)
it has a heli-op capability which the lms does not need

it would take a massive redesign to convert it to the projected lms design
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agree,
also newest generation warship design towards stealth design and full seal hull ...


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post Oct 25 2016, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(mcnoodle @ Oct 25 2016, 10:49 PM)
Better buy everything from the Chinese, US sanction is a real possibility.
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my view is only suitable asset buy from china, no need all from China. except US, we still got Euro asset can buy.

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post Oct 26 2016, 01:18 PM

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Bangladesh Navy Durjoy class is a class of large patrol craft (LPC)。made by china wuchang shipyard。。。close to LMS spec。 64.2 meter。
still wish new design & more large tonne LMS.

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post Oct 26 2016, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 26 2016, 03:54 PM)
TUDM aircraft ground crew: The unmentioned ones.

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Thank you all ground crews, who keep our planes flying!  notworthy.gif
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no hanger to service aircraft ?
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post Oct 28 2016, 10:13 AM

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#Zhuhai Airshow 16"

first show ...

CH-5 rainbow drone ....look insane .killer drone.. can mount 16 missile. 40hrs endurance. 6500km range, 900kg payload, 3.3ton weight. operation altitude 10 km.。can call mini UAV bomber laugh.gif laugh.gif buy few unit enough to bomb those sulu.


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post Oct 28 2016, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 28 2016, 12:08 PM)
Abang sniper....

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the gun look nice ..... rclxms.gif
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post Oct 28 2016, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 28 2016, 12:44 PM)
Accuracy International AX .338 cal

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is a good sniper gun ? not really familiar with gun.
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post Oct 30 2016, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(mcnoodle @ Oct 29 2016, 11:39 PM)
Looks like zerg nests. biggrin.gif
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ICBM ....... hahaha.... laugh.gif
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post Oct 31 2016, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Oct 31 2016, 08:40 AM)
Wah seem pirate everywhere and this is not even strait of Melaka
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Geographic environment & thousands of islands make pirate easy to escape and hide in South East Asia, Melaka Strait, SCS, Java Sea. Celebes sea.
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Oct 31 2016, 09:43 AM)
Somali pirate completely lost? hmm.gif
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Somali pirate already make enough money pass few year, now with tide security & navy escort they will hard/stop to attack those commercial ship.
but if all country let off those escort,i believe those somali pirate will come back in 1-2 year.
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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 31 2016, 04:27 PM)
Launching of Indonesian Navy new PC-40 Class Patrol Boat KRI Lepu (861) built by PT Karimun Anugrah Sejati Shipyard. Credit to original uploaders.
Our shipyard not capable to built such size of Patrol boat for Navy/APMM ?

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post Oct 31 2016, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 31 2016, 05:39 PM)
the type pc-40 ship is 40m & 100ton ship and destini msia is building 44m & 297ton ship for mmea
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this APMM ship is getting Germany Fassmer shipyard as partner.
What is means our shipyard own design and construction on such small ship.

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# zhuhai airshow ..china new riffle ... 7.62mm become trend riffle ? laugh.gif

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