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post Oct 14 2016, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 14 2016, 03:21 PM)
Looks small...At first look like normal-sized tank, but suddenly see MG so big...
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more photo.。。just come。。。。

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post Oct 14 2016, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 14 2016, 08:03 PM)
aww~ it does looks like a cute mini version of the abrams lol  wub.gif
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i believe it not more than 3meter wide... around 30+- tonne ....
news said it use type96 MBT engine ...
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post Oct 17 2016, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Oct 16 2016, 09:41 PM)
So...how 6 Aegis-based DDG can withstand about 20 Type 052D and Type 052C?
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plus type 055 Destroyer soon .。。。
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post Oct 18 2016, 09:39 AM

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construction of type 055 destroyer (12000 tonne), the front section of exposure in shanghai jiangnan shipyard.... this ship will be launch 1st quarter next year

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post Oct 18 2016, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pork Chop the 3rd @ Oct 18 2016, 04:10 PM)
i jst watched Last Ship season 2...can someone share, why would a DDG arleigh-burke be afraid of an Astute-class submarine? i always thought DDG are sub hunter nowadays.....

at least in all movies i saw submarines are afraid of destroyer..only in this TV Series The Last Ship is a DDG afraid of submarine....

knowledge sharing anyone? Apart from it's a tv-show...

sekian
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already finish watch the last ship season 3 ...
anti submarine is not DDG arleigh-burke primary role.
if 1 DDG arleigh-burke ship vs 1 astute class nucklear submarine ... 60% win rate belong to submarine.
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post Oct 19 2016, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 19 2016, 03:49 PM)
No big deal, Malaysian police have retained a lot of earlier 7.62mm rifles like FN FAL and HK11 light machine guns.

There are stories from Lahad Datu where the sulu gunmen are still moving after being shot by 5.56mm M16 and M4 rifles. After being shot by these 7.62mm weapons however, they immediately dropped dead on the spot.
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can use more easy understanding word ..? not really understand the high level english .。。。

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post Oct 19 2016, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 19 2016, 04:55 PM)
Haha like that ka....

Basically saying some stories say when police and soldiers sometimes shoot at the sulu gunmen with M16 or M4 with 5.56mm bullet, sometimes they can still run away. Maybe died later or something, but when hit can still move when they are hit.

But when they were hit with 7.62mm bullet from SLR or HK11 machine gun, usually they drop dead instantly.
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ok, understand .... laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 19 2016, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Strike @ Oct 19 2016, 05:09 PM)
like murican 5.56 not effective against taliban in iraq afghan laugh.gif

now developing new round to replace 5.56

cant remember the caliber..
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will use china standard 5.80 ammunition ?
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post Oct 20 2016, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Oct 19 2016, 09:13 PM)
muricans experimenting with 6.5 grendel and 6.5 spc.
they found it as best of both worlds more effective as it has higher stopping power than 5.56 yet lighter than 7.62 NATO battle rifle calibre. but, with millions and millions of M885 green tip ammo in stock, the muricans aren't yet goin to introduce any of the 6.5mm rounds into the normal army. even Spec Ops types who use them are limited to a small number.
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6.5 bullet will more heavy to carry, even Chinese also experience 5.8 also little more heavy.
for US body size maybe ok。
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post Oct 20 2016, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Oct 20 2016, 12:29 AM)
heavier than 5.56 but lighter then 7.62 but with equivalent stopping and killing power of 7.62. a compromise really as m4's short barrels didn't generate enough energy to outright killing the opponent. no wonder USMC sticks to M16A4 that has longer barrel than m4
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agree, got pro and cons, our asean more small size, if a army personal carry 6.5mm in 6xCartridge than alot heavy already.
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 21 2016, 10:10 AM)
I already mention if not buying this year, means only able to buy in 2020 .... since next year is close to election, almost not possible to buy anything, 2018 is election years. so 2020 also depend who is gov.
BTW i think RMAF should call for cancel MRCA project, so like BAE/Dassult no need wasting time there (responsibility) .... and 2020 come back again ... by that time many stealth figther can be consider already like su50, F35. FC31.

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post Oct 21 2016, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 21 2016, 01:53 PM)
Those would be put under APMM (JPM), rather than the Navy (defence ministry), though.
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Oct 21 2016, 02:46 PM)
90m-ish long, lets guess which type of ships will be donated.
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if not wrong is Ex retirement japan coast guard ship.

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post Oct 21 2016, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 21 2016, 12:10 PM)
Budget 2017 announcement later @ 4.00 pm.

Any predictions?
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Since not much hope for Minfef.
so put wish more budget for Polis and ESSCOM 。。。
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post Oct 21 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 21 2016, 04:08 PM)
Most likely older Shiretoko-class 1000-ton patrol ships, many of them decommissioned already. If so these are seriously large patrol ships (80 meters long with 9 meter beam).

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Also agreed to do more Malaysia-Japan cross-training and exercises on coast guard duties.
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Shiretoko-class too old already, maintanance will be nightmare 。。。

i believe it will be Ojika-class patrol vessel 。。。 expected this ship start retirement soon... for first 1-3 ship.
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post Oct 21 2016, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Oct 21 2016, 06:39 PM)
so japan giving 2 free boat to msia...

will that means higher chance for japan shinkansen HSR to be built in msia?

lets see
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i don't think so....

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post Oct 21 2016, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(ks1230 @ Oct 21 2016, 08:26 PM)
PM and Minister of Defence is going to china by end of the month..china ship incoming?  blink.gif
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zhuhai airshow ? ... possible MRSS or LMS
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post Oct 22 2016, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Oct 21 2016, 09:17 PM)
Can use Chinese hull and use western weapons??
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No issue on this ....
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post Oct 22 2016, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Oct 21 2016, 10:38 PM)
Some say malaysia is the biggest user of exocet missile after the French,  is it accurate?
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RMN not much navy ship。。。。
also our exocet is old version. except submarine version

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post Oct 22 2016, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 22 2016, 01:23 AM)
Some of our Exocet MM.38s were updated to MM.40 Block 2 IIRC

Don't forget we have Otomat as well, but dono what version... 30 years old laugh.gif

But we should be depending on the Black Sharks... I wonder if we can get another class of SSK hmm.gif
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block II consider outdated ..... if not wrong missile only have 10 year lifespan ... after this can use missile for exercise ...
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post Oct 22 2016, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(cleaner @ Oct 22 2016, 11:18 AM)
Otomat already strip off from laksamana class, even fire control system already decom. Public can access laksamana class CIC during TLDM open day
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laksamana class is good ship, if retirement can give to APMM, good as patrol boat... with modification below
- good enough speed 36knot,
- remove all missile launcher replace with 2x RHIB launcher,
- 76mm gun remove replace with 25/30mm gun.
- Install 2 x 12.7mm navy gun ((manual)

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