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post Nov 12 2016, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 12 2016, 01:52 AM)
Well Gowind (LCS and LMS too confusing) will be our main (soon, only?) surface combatant so why not. Only trouble is that the mountains start getting more and more obscure laugh.gif

MRSS names? why not... tasik? KD Bera, KD Chini brows.gif obviously I am drawing inspiration from RN's Bay-class landing ships

Actually I will make an exception. For the MRSS, Kesultanan Melaka sultan names can use - eg Sultan Muhammad Shah, Sultan Muzaffar Shah, etc. But I dunno if the sultans have a problem with that.
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any personal opinion also can.
but our 3 propose name for LCS feel not really good。

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post Nov 15 2016, 11:51 PM

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DCNS Installed the Panoramic Sensors & Intelligence Module (PSIM) Aboard its 1st Gowind Corvette icon_rolleyes.gif

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On October 28, French naval shipbuilding group DCNS installed a Panoramic Sensors and Intelligence Module (PSIM) on a vessel for the first time. This innovative mast designed and produced by DCNS integrates the SETIS combat management system as well as most sensors of the Gowind corvette. According to DCNS, the PSIM brings increased operational performance and better control of costs and lead times. This important milestone confirms DCNS capacity for innovation and operational agility.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/n...d-corvette.html




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post Nov 16 2016, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 16 2016, 08:47 AM)
I'm familiar with the planned MMEA 44-meter NGPC made by Destini Shipbuilding (below), but what's this? confused.gif

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MMEA 44-meter NGPC model at DSA 2016
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just other MMEA new large patrol ship project, which design include helicopter pad. 84 meter about 1300--1500 tons.
3 ship will be built.
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post Nov 16 2016, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Nov 16 2016, 02:09 AM)
this for egyptian navy? the 2500 tons hull? damn.. its really look very big for 2500 tons hull.
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generally it bigger beam about 16 meter which usually use in 3500-4500 tons warship. thanks advance material/superstructure can make ship hull bigger. cost price Egyptian Gowind usd 360m each.

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post Nov 16 2016, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 16 2016, 09:44 AM)
I'm also interested with the eventual fates of the RMN ships not part of the 15 to 5 plan. What do you all think? Sold, donated, scrapped or passed to APMM?

There's quite a number of still good assets which would be surplus to requirements, like the Lekiu class frigates. Also, are the TLDM-affiliated auxiliary vessels like Bunga Mas 5, Bunga Mas 6 and the Tun Azizan affected by the 15 to 5 plan?
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I offcouse support 15-5 plan, currently too many type of ship, but i prefer 15-7, but future any plan can change, depend on budget.
those ship like Handalan,Perdana, Jerong class boat already more than 40 years, not really can use any more for APMM. even boat now i guest in low serviceability or can sink any time.
BM5/BM6/Tun Azizan just temporary workaround ship (limited capability), since we not have LPD or Auxiliary ship or MRSS. i estimated those 3 ship will use for 10 years before MRSS will built. since all navy budget will go to LMS/LCS, i predict MRSS only will get after 2023-2025. or soonest is 2020.
currently RMN have KD MAHAWANGSA & KD Sri Indera Sakti small multi propose support ship also already 33+ year old, i believe it only have other 10 year life.

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post Nov 16 2016, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 16 2016, 11:28 AM)
I think expansion of NGPVs (Kedah-class) will cost more. 18 ships of LMS are pretty cheap, the 12 NGPVs planned to be added to the current 6 ships will probably cost a lot more.
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agree, it will cost more, and not happen soon, at lease ofter SGPV is built. i think LMS can past to 2nd tier ship yard to built.
also BM5/BM6/Tun Azizan after Lahad Datu standoff,it add role as mobile sea base, but it not really good solution.

Muhibbah Enginerring propose mobile offshore base see on DSA 2016 much better solution。future Mindef can consider it. put 2 in semporna 1 in Sandakan offshore。

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post Nov 16 2016, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 16 2016, 11:52 AM)
looks like the 15 to 5 plan is in full speed, latest confirmed retirement is slated for the 2 hydrographic ships
http://www.malaysiandefence.com/kd-mutiara-short-leash/

so total of 6 ships the laksamana-class (4 ships) & the perantau-class (2 ships) is due for retirement
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BTW yesterday some good news: laugh.gif


RMN Receives MV Aishah Aims 4 For Hydrographic Survey

PELABUHAN KLANG, Nov 15 (Bernama) -- The Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) today received the MV Aishah Aims 4 vessel which is capable of carrying out a broad and comprehensive hydrographic data survey of the country's territorial waters.

RMN chief Admiral Datuk Seri Ahmad Kamarulzaman Ahmad Badaruddin said the vessel was obtained through a lease contract to replace the RMN's two existing hydrographic survey vessels, 'KD Mutiara' and 'KD Perantau', which would be phased out in stages.

"For instance, the function of the 40-year-old KD Mutiara cannot be optimised fully as it requires high operational and maintenance costs. The annual expenditure to operate KD Mutiara and KD Perantau costs between RM25 million and RM30 million.....

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post Nov 16 2016, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 16 2016, 12:32 PM)
IMHO Hydrographic surveying is an auxiliary duty at best anyway, so we don't actually need dedicated naval vessels for it if we don't have the money. Contracting a civilian survey firm for this duty is totally acceptable.
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mainly issue on P&C of survey, some survey will be use for like warship and submarine,
commercial ship usually already have there route path.
civilian survey firm usually use for fix location survey like for commercial project exp: Bridge, tunnel, port, reclamation land for building etc.
but anyway still depend gov policy。

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