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post Sep 16 2016, 09:08 AM, updated 4y ago

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PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V70


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Proud owners of Proton Saga BLM/FL/FLX in LYN
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Proton Saga FLX price and specifications
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Spare Parts Price Lists
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Previous Proton Saga BLM Thread
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Review and Comparison
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kindly read the nice info given by our CyberKewl ( a driver and owner for both myvi and BLM)

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Proton Saga BLM, FL & FLX Fuel Consumption by Fuelly
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Proton S16 2010 ANCAP Crash Test

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Known Saga problems and solutions:
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NOTICE:

Prohibited Parts For Maintenance/Repair Works

All Proton Service Branches/Dealers are not allow to accept any job repairs or service request if the customer brings their own parts, accessories and lubricants.

Customer need to be advised to obtain and purchase all the above said mentioned items from Proton Edar in order to enjoy the 6 months or 10,000km for parts warranty, whichever comes first.

There is an inclusion for customers who bought their parts from Part Shoppe at PPCSB Glenmarie, only if the customer present the purchase invoice

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Car service guide for beginners:

Disclaimer: Parts price may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Q1: OMG OMG OMG! My car 1,000 km already. I am so excited for my first service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

You should pay a visit to an authorized service center near you as soon as possible. Item to be taken are:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]

Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

It is recommended to stick with an authorised Proton service center for the first three service since it is free (labor charge) and to prevent any complication from happening during warranty claims.

*Engine oil price may change from time to time subject to SC's discretion.

Q2: Should I do alignment and balancing on my first service? Can I do it under the tree?

If you have alignment and balancing issues during the 11- 999 km period of driving your car, hop over to a SC immediately and they will rectify it free of charge. Above 1,000km alignment and balancing is not covered under warranty so you may proceed to your trusted alignment and balancing sifu or just go do alignment under a coconut tree.

Q3: OMG OMG OMG! My car 5,000 km already. I am so excited for my second service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

Refer <Q1>

Q4: What engine oil should I take? Mineral? Semi synthetic? Synthetic? Minyak masak cap petai?

Please do no use minyak masak cap petai although minyak masak cap pisau has some nutty aroma. They could be useful if you wish to fry an egg or a fish during traffic jam to cure your hunger but your engine will not receive any sufficient protection after 100 yards you poured the oil in.

Normally, it is recommended to take semi-synthetic since it offers benefits of fully synthetic at a fraction of a price. If fully synthetic price isn't an issue for you, you may go ahead and opt for it.

Q5: Can I take fully synthetic during the first three service (1,000 km, 5,000 km & 10,000 km)?

Although you can opt for fully synthetic for the three initial service, it is recommended to stick with semi-synthetic for the first two service (1,000 km & 5,000km). Reason is, both intervals are relatively short and therefore it is wasted if one opt to pour in fully synthetic. From 10,000km onwards, you may opt to pour in fully synthetic if your budget permits.
Q6: OMG OMG OMG! My car 10,000 km already. I am so excited for my third service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

Refer <Q3>

Q7: OMG OMG OMG! My car 15,000 km already. I am so excited for my fourth service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

You should pay a visit to an authorized service center near you as soon as possible. Item to be taken are:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]

Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

Do note that from 15,000km onwards, you will be charged labour charge for every single service you do in a Proton authorized service center. For every normal servicing, the labour charged will be RM55.00*.

*Labour charge may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Q8: OMG OMG OMG! My car 20,000 km already. I am so excited for my fifth service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

You should pay a visit to an authorized service center near you as soon as possible. Item to be taken are:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]
- Spark Plug [RM 38.00]
- Brake Fluid [RM70]
- Radiator Coolant [RM30.00]
- Air Filter [RM 16.71]

Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

Labor charge: RM 100.00*

*Labour charge may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Q9: OMG OMG OMG! My car 20,000 km already. I am so excited for my fifth service, but after read Q8, I feel sadding liao coz not enuf money. Ayam sad sad.gif

Afraid not, you may skimp on a few item above and bring forward it to the 25,000km service.

You may choose either:

LYN Saga thread edisi tikus recommended package 1:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]
- Spark Plug [RM 38.00]
- Radiator Coolant [RM30.00]

skipped item to be brought forward to 25k km service: brake fluid & Air filter

or

LYN Saga thread edisi tikus recommended package 2:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]
- Brake Fluid [RM70]
- Air Filter [RM 16.71]

skipped item to be brought forward to 25k km service: spark plug & Radiator coolant

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Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

Labor charge: RM 75.00* - RM100*

*Labour charge may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Disclaimer: Just dont go to the SC ans say "I want that LYN Saga thread edisi tikus recommended package 2 for my current service." They will look at you and say "Are you on crack or something?" Just tell them the item you want and don't want.

Q10: Refering to Q9, Why skip here and skip there one? Nanti kereta rosak how?

Brake fluid normally has a lifespan of two years, therefore an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle braking system.

Radiator coolant normally has a lifespan of two to three years, therefore an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle cooling system. Just remember, DO NOT ADD ONLY TAP WATER INTO YOUR VEHICLE COOLING SYSTEM!

The paper air filter fuction is to filter out huge particles such as sand, away from your intake chamber. As long as the air filter is still inside, an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle air intake system.

Normal copper core spark plugs can last up to 40,000km, therefore an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle ignition system.

Q11: Since the items above can last so long, why not I use it till the maximum lifespan?

While some items such as brake fluid and radiator coolant is fine to be used till its maximum lifespan, but it is recommended to do periodic check on both items (especially brake fluid) and replace it if it needed to. Never wait till any components to break down before changing them. When a component starts breaking down, chances are, it will "infect" other parts too.

As for high wear and tear item such as copper spark plug, they usually degrade after just 20,000km. Although it may still operate above 20,000km, but chances are, the sparks it ignite isn't big enough to make a full combustion and therefore, your car will start to feel sluggish and thirsty. It is just like calling an old marathon runner to run a 100m sprint race. Although he can still run, but probably he wont be able to run as fast during his younger days.

Q12: Who is V12Kompressor? Why should I trust you?

V12Kompressor is just a nobody who enjoy his time playing tikus game. In the end, it is up to your own common sense to decide what is right or wrong for your car. God grants you common sense. Use it.

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Recommended parts replacement interval by jaylim94

Note :
This is just suggestion by user of Saga. Not necessary to follow up everything but if you loves your car, please follow the interval replacement.
Oil = Fluid
*If using performance parts may depend on the suggested interval replacement.

Engine Oil* + Engine Oil Filter*:
Every 5,000 KM or 3 months whichever comes first.

Manual Transmission Oil
Every 50,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.

Automatic Transmission Oil
Every 40,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.

Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) Oil + CVT Oil filter
Every 60,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.
Every 40,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first for severe usage.

Engine Air Filter*, Spark Plugs*, Air Cond Blower Filter
Every 25,000 KM

Air Con Compressor Oil
Every 30,000 KM or 18 months whichever come first.

Brake Oil* + Power Steering Oil
Every 40,000 KM

Engine Coolant*
Every 30,000 KM or 1 years whichever come first

Timing Belt + Front End Auxiliary Drive (FEAD Belt)
Every 100,000 KM or 5 years whichever come first
OR
Every 80,000 KM or 4 years whichever come first

Fuel Filter
Every 60,000 KM or 3 years whichever come first

Check :
(Every Service or every 10,000 KM or everytime)
Foreman won't so free to check for you. You can check yourself since the car you drive the most. Somehow others part you need get help from foreman

Battery Performance
Brake Performance
Tires Condition
Wiper and Washer System
Signal Light / Brake Light / Headlamp
Operation of Horn
Seat Belts
Clutch
Power Window
Air Conditional Function
Coolant Hoses and System

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Transmission fluid compatibility chart

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credits to: TitanRev

CVT Transmission Service Instruction

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=3808088

credits to: Maxwell6635

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CVT Transmission Service ESTIMATED price at Proton Edar Service Center

CVT Fluid [1Liter x 4bottles] = RM40x4 = RM160
CVT filter = RM 235.25
CVT labour charge = RM 60.00

Total: RM 455.25

Optional:
Transmission Gasket = RM 122.72

Total including optional: 577.97

*Part and labour price subject to change by Proton without prior notice
*As rough reference only. Not necessarily reflect 100% actual price charged by SC
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NEW CAR CHECKLIST

MOST IMPORTANT!
Things to do before collecting the car and sign off the collection contract.

1) Chassis number indicate in the registration card
2) Chassis number indicate on the door ID plate
3) Chassis number indicate on the middle structure beam under driver seat
4) Engine number indicate in the registration card
5) Engine number indicate on the door ID plate
6) Physical imprint engine number on engine block

MOST IMPORTANT!

Check where applicable
Make sure that all the keys and remote controls are working.

Locks

Keyless Entry (Lock and unlock using remote)
Manual Entry (Lock and unlock using key)
Master Lock
Individual Lock
Alarm
Alarm reset switch

Windows

Power Windows(Check that the driver side auto window is working)
Windows control Lock

Electric Mirrors

Electric Mirrors Control ( Up, Down, Left & Right )

Console


Air-Conditioning
Fan Speeds
Rear Demister
Radio/CD/DVD Player
Steering controls

Switches

Headlights
Directional Signals
High Beam
Hazard Lights
Parking Lights
Tail Lights
Brake Lights
Fog Lamps
Interior light
Wiper (Make sure each speed is correct)
Wiper Spray
Horn

Dashboard

Dashboard lights come on when headlights are on
Information lights (eg. Parking brake ) are lit at relevant time
Check that odometer does not display excessive mileage

Transmission & Brakes

Smooth Gearshift
Automatic transmission
Shift Lock button
Footbrake
Handbrake

Things to look out for:
Test auto-transmission for shock while engaging gear.
Make sure that the brake has to be depressed to shift out of Park mode.
Make sure that the car can only start in Neutral or Park mode.

Other Interiors

Steering wheel properly aligned
Steering wheel adjusting lever
Bonnet release lever
Boot release lever
Fuel tank release lever
Check for stains and holes on seats
Seat adjuster (Forward, backward, recline)
Seat belts (Check that the Seat belts lock when pulled hard)
Check for scratches and dents on the trims
Rear Mirror
Glove box
Check for stains on carpets
Air-con vents (Check that they are able to move freely)
Speakers

Exterior

Check that car plate is correct
Check that body surface is free from dents and scratches.
Check that windows and windscreens are free from stains and scratches
Check that lights are clear and undamaged
Check that door handles are working
Check that tyres are free from holes and punctures
Check that rims are free from scratches
Check that the radio antenna is working
Check that fuel cap is secured

Under The Bonnet


Engine Oil level
Brake Fluid level
Battery Water level
Transmission Fluid level
Coolant level
Air-Conditioning gas level
Check engine compartment with any obvious defects and damage

Inside the Boot

Base board
Boot light
Tool kit
Spare tyre

Documentation

Road Tax
Certificate of insurance
Car owner manual

Miscellaneous

Check tyres pressure
All goodies promised are given

Stock Tint Measurement

Brand Safetint
UVR 99%
IRR 55%
VLT 60%
TSER tarak tau
Thickness 2 mil
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TiTies

Day:
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Location: Restoran Al-Madina, Aked Esplanad, Bukit Jalil. (Near EA Autoworks)
GPS Coordinate: 3.061015, 101.676473
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GPS Coordinate: 3.061015, 101.676473


Upcoming Event:

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Time:
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Meetpoint 1
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post Sep 17 2016, 02:52 PM

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Hello all,

This will be the final thread by me as I have decided to sell my car. The 5-years ownership experience has been fun, mainly from meeting various friends from this thread to get to know other friends when I'm a travelling salesman in my trusty saga. Not to mention, the amount of tinkerings some of us did together back then and also the trial and errors I had experimenting with various parts on the car. My curiosity on Proton CVT is the reason I'm landed with a Saga FLX and thank god my Saga thus far has been really reliable. If anyone needs help on car set-ups (ie: suspension set up), feel free to ask me. I'll always be glad to help. smile.gif

So, enjoy the V70 thread. It's Even Better.

-V12k-
Saga FLX 1.3 Executive
6/9/2011 - 16/9/2016.

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 17 2016, 03:14 PM)
5 years ownership only, where got 6 years... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Sep 17 2016, 06:35 PM)
i think he aiming new saga or new persona  hmm.gif
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Current line up of Proton cars doesn't entice me at all.
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QUOTE(n3w @ Sep 17 2016, 04:59 PM)
Decided on which new car bro?
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No new car. Just sell only.
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QUOTE(n3w @ Sep 19 2016, 11:02 PM)
Using the Altis kah to work now?

Another Sagarian graduate liao. bye.gif
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Ya. Rather than sit at karpak for 6 days and only move on Sundays, might as well just utilize the car fully. Somemore got offered quite a nice amount for the Saga so just let go lo.
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QUOTE(n3w @ Sep 19 2016, 11:26 PM)
You let go the modified car or reverted back to stock?
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mostly reverted back stock.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Sep 20 2016, 06:42 AM)
Sigh all mau sell saga. I'm still stuck with it no money change car
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says the one with two Lexus pasu bunga...
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QUOTE(AMenzZ @ Sep 21 2016, 12:32 AM)
Owhh...
Is V12 graduation day..
Later maybe there will be a new member who bought v12 saga... Hehe..
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The one who bought my car, will never be in here. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Davidfsl @ Sep 22 2016, 08:48 PM)
Good evening everyone~! I always read thru this Saga thread but i never posted anything. I own a saga flx since 2011. Recently, the lightbulbs for the headlamp and foglamp burnt too many times already and i am tired of replacing it.

Therefore guys, any recommendations on any shops or outside servicing place that are good/specialise in checking car electrical wiring?

Thanks for the feedback in advance!
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there is one actually at PJ Kg.Sg.Way. But I forgot what's the name. doh.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 24 2016, 04:45 PM)
Omg...stay tuned for my 2nd IAFM update...disaster.
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the new unit u changed is lemon also? recon unit?
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QUOTE(mivecwira @ Oct 24 2016, 09:19 PM)
Few days after, the aircond suddenly gone. Refill the gas and the "compressor oil", the aircond alive back without any hissing sound however after few days the hissing snake sound occurs back.

Does it mean there some leaking o faulty in the aircond system? I did check and clean the filter quite frequent.

Any1 encounter the same?  bangwall.gif
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Go start your yingine, drive around taman for few minutes with airkon on. Then park bawah pokok, open bonnet. See the condenser got wet wet stains or not. If it is wet wet means condenser bocor, have to tukar.

*condenser is the slightly squarish thing that is in front of the radiator, positioned next to CVT oil cooler. It is at driver's side.

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QUOTE(mivecwira @ Oct 25 2016, 10:06 PM)
Will check bro..Tq...u mean all the condenser if wet wet stain mean need to change whole set or just service is it? Haizz waller bocor lagi... cry.gif
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change.
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QUOTE(mivecwira @ Oct 26 2016, 01:21 PM)
Bro i did check the surrounding of the condenser but found no any wet stain o similar even the whole hose system x wet o condensation spot found.. i could remmber the hose after the H o L hole should at least gt the condensation wet spot but nt now.

Aircond less colder now..

Need advise...compressor o the condenser dirty n nd service?
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better bring go aircon specialist check lo
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Oct 26 2016, 09:56 PM)
need ask TS V12Kompressor
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Consider MK3... so make a new thread la for that.
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The Punch CVT is actually more intelligent than you think. It has learn mode. Whack the car a lot and eventually the CVT behavior will adapt to aggressive driving behaviour too.
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QUOTE(Mrsaitama @ Nov 20 2016, 09:41 PM)
Where the hell u learn this " test all gears stuff ", after change cvt need to remap back using laptop, walao stop posting wrong stuff please, u can search back at past post.
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After change CVT of coz need remap using laptop, since gearbox sudah turun.

After changing CVT fluid, then not necessary need to plug in laptop. Just perform clutch adaptation will do.
http://service.punchpowertrain.com/wap_pro...l_en/id/33.html

It's a pain in the arse process, so normally if the CVT is behaving smoothly before and after the fluid change... then just jalan will do.

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