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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V70, Final thread by TS

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goohtj
post May 19 2017, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Mrsaitama @ May 19 2017, 05:15 PM)
Guys, really need help here. I already change my front driver side bearing for 2 times already, and not even 3 weeks the sound come back.

Can suggest other thing that make it broken? Lower arm? Ball joint? Or any other thing? I only use the car in highway and didn't even hit any pothole...
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the installer use machine press or hammer for bearing?. saga front bearings are a failure .goes bad faster than oil change
when tightening back the wheel , use hand socket spanner not air tool. cannot too tight.

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post May 19 2017, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(goohtj @ May 19 2017, 07:17 PM)
the installer use machine press or hammer for bearing?. saga front bearings are a failure .goes bad faster than oil change
when tightening back the wheel , use hand socket spanner not air tool. cannot too tight.
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Do u confirm its the bearing problem again? I think i want to send to proton centre tmr see what they say. Both method used still make wong wong sound. Wasted my tjme and money.

If change at proton to they provide any warranty?
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post May 19 2017, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Mrsaitama @ May 19 2017, 08:14 PM)
Do u confirm its the bearing problem again? I think i want to send to proton centre tmr see what they say. Both method used still make wong wong sound. Wasted my tjme and money.

If change at proton to they provide any warranty?
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yes. bearing problem
the bearings are undersize, especially the rear .
these are the 2 issue that make this saga famous

1. makan minyak
2. bearing rosak



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post May 20 2017, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(goohtj @ May 19 2017, 10:07 PM)
yes. bearing problem
the bearings are undersize, especially the rear .
these are the 2 issue that make this saga famous

1. makan minyak
2. bearing rosak
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I guess thats why saga model with abs use different bearing parts than non-abs model? hmm..

makan minyak sangat compare miveee n veeyoss, compare old wira...its ok..lol...

Plain DOHC without vvt consider good d.... n plotong wasted too much to invest in CPS, early early use vvt then is good ad...
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post May 21 2017, 09:20 PM

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Saga flx need how many bottle of CVT oil? 4 or 5?
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post May 23 2017, 02:43 PM

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goohtj fyi for saga blm and fl, usually rear bearing is easily rosaked compared to front side. front side not easily can rosaked.

front bearing is different than rear.

my FL rear bearing change once for each side. front side still ok.

for saga flx, both front and rear is the same like front blm bearing model.

pls read -> https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=73212362


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post May 23 2017, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(kashvin @ May 21 2017, 09:20 PM)
Saga flx need how many bottle of CVT oil? 4 or 5?
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CVT Transmission Service ESTIMATED price at Proton Edar Service Center CVT Fluid [1Liter x 4bottles] = RM40x4 = RM160 CVT filter = RM 235.25 CVT labour charge = RM 60.00 Total: RM 455.25 Optional: Transmission Gasket = RM 122.72 Total including optional: 577.97 *Part and labour price subject to change by Proton without prior notice *As rough reference only. Not necessarily reflect 100% actual price charged by SC


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post May 23 2017, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ May 23 2017, 03:02 PM)

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I found a place charging RM400 all in
1tanmee
post May 23 2017, 08:07 PM

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How much would brake pads (both front and rear) costs?
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post May 23 2017, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ May 23 2017, 08:07 PM)
How much would brake pads (both front and rear) costs?
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Front brake pad RM90-150 depending on range

Rear is drum mah....your car hit 100k ady ?
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post May 23 2017, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Ricky300 @ May 23 2017, 09:46 PM)
Front brake pad RM90-150 depending on range

Rear is drum mah....your car hit 100k ady ?
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more than 100k liao! oh so brake pads only for the front. the brakes for the rear, how much?
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post May 23 2017, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ May 23 2017, 10:06 PM)
more than 100k liao! oh so brake pads only for the front. the brakes for the rear, how much?
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no idea...check with workshop....
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post May 23 2017, 11:06 PM

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My BLM clocked 175k now, recently just changed the brake pad and disc brake rotor for 1st time ever.

Also changed were rear absorber to Wings + silicone buffer to stiffen the stock spring, front absorber to APM performMax couple with original spring. This combination just simply increase the comfort level as the car is less bouncing at uneven trunk road.
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post May 23 2017, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ May 23 2017, 11:06 PM)
My BLM clocked 175k now, recently just changed the brake pad and disc brake rotor for 1st time ever.

Also changed were rear absorber to Wings + silicone buffer to stiffen the stock spring, front absorber to APM performMax couple with original spring. This combination just simply increase the comfort level as the car is less bouncing at uneven trunk road.
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How much was brake pads and discs?
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post May 25 2017, 06:38 PM

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Rear drum brake making squeaking noise when brakes applied. Usually at low speed near to stop. My mechanic cleans the dust but after 2 hours later, it's back!

It's really annoying and does anyone manage to solve this issue? Been searching this thread for answer but only found others facing same problem with no fix to this.

So now every time I drive and near the traffic light, the Saga will be squeaking noise until complete stop. Sigh......
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post May 25 2017, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ May 23 2017, 02:43 PM)
goohtj fyi for saga blm and fl, usually rear bearing is easily rosaked compared to front side. front side not easily can rosaked.

front bearing is different than rear.

my FL rear bearing change once for each side. front side still ok. 

for saga flx, both front and rear is the same like front blm bearing model.

pls read -> https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=73212362
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now i only know...LOL...

My flx front bearing kaput at around 43k mileage...claimed warranty n they sc honored it.... devil.gif

after two weeks, claimed again the whole rear axle assembly... devil.gif devil.gif

So far the front still ok...touch wood.. smile.gif

My Rear bearing kaput around 80k++
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post May 26 2017, 09:54 AM

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Can anyone tell me how to connect to the new Saga's bluetooth?..im using an iphone 6, issit supported?.

Thanks
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post May 26 2017, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Keatsan @ May 25 2017, 06:38 PM)
Rear drum brake making squeaking noise when brakes applied. Usually at low speed near to stop. My mechanic cleans the dust but after 2 hours later, it's back!

It's really annoying and does anyone manage to solve this issue? Been searching this thread for answer but only found others facing same problem with no fix to this.

So now every time I drive and near the traffic light, the Saga will be squeaking noise until complete stop. Sigh......
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Can you update what you did recently on the drum brakes?

Do you remember how your drums look like? Are there scoring lines on the outer lips?

And what about the drum shoes? Are they still thick? Thick or not, I think you better try replacing the drum shoe with TRW or Bendix shoes, I mean I think that's better than paying your mechanic to do brake service only for it to make noise again. Should be ~RM100 alongside labour to replace the Saga drum shoes.
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post May 26 2017, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(LemonKnight @ May 26 2017, 11:44 AM)
Can you update what you did recently on the drum brakes?

Do you remember how your drums look like? Are there scoring lines on the outer lips?

And what about the drum shoes? Are they still thick? Thick or not, I think you better try replacing the drum shoe with TRW or Bendix shoes, I mean I think that's better than paying your mechanic to do brake service only for it to make noise again. Should be ~RM100 alongside labour to replace the Saga drum shoes.
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Brake pads are relatively new. But I guess it's the inner brake shoe that's causing it. Would try to give some suggestion to my mechanic on the next service to lub the side shoes.

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post May 26 2017, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Keatsan @ May 26 2017, 11:57 AM)
Brake pads are relatively new. But I guess it's the inner brake shoe that's causing it. Would try to give some suggestion to my mechanic on the next service to lub the side shoes.

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And what about your drums? Do they have scoring lines like the video below? For the same amount of labour, I'd ask the mechanic to also install new shoes. They are probably like RM50-70ish.



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