i am looking for 144hz monitor and found these two monitors from acer.
KG240A RM880
XB240H RM1199

KG240 cheaper but i cant find any reviews regarding this monitor, only Malaysia website has write about it during the launching.
even on acer web dont have any info about the monitor.
should i buy KG or XB ? whats the different anyway?

thanks

looking for similar point of view

jaykay4540
ACER ---> Master of misleading advertisement, the company know KG240A isn't well known yet.

KG240A
No Freesync (despite some news said it does, it doesn't support fresync) = No fancy tech like ULMB (anti flicker stuff) or nvidia 3D Vision tech = fixed height and cannot spin the monitor between landscape and portrait



XB240H
No G-sync (ASIA model doesn't support it, don't get cheated) = Nvidia 3D Vision Ready = Anti Flicker feature = adjustable height , can spin the monitor to landscape and portrait


EDIT: Golden rule of purchase ---> You get what you pay for

On the other hand....if you have compatible AMD GPU, why not opt for AOC G2460PF with Freesync? Only costs RM1200.
You can check the review of G2460PF here
http://www.redgamingtech.com/aoc-g2460pf-2...w-and-analysis/
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/aoc-g2460pf,review-3685.html

However....if you have Nvidia GPU.......the cheapest G-Sync monitor costs around RM2000.....ACER XB241H
Reason being AOC has stopped production of its cheaper G-Sync G2460PG and focus the production on AOC G2460PF.

Rumour has it....majority of panel intended for G2460PG keep on being failing to pass Nvidia imposed strict quality G-Sync hardware requirement, so AOC has enough of such 'requirement' and so.....the 'criteria failing panel' being repurposed for G2460PF instead....

So.....Good luck in making your choice.



This post has been edited by JohnLai: Sep 20 2016, 11:13 AM

yeah just noticed the monitor at Viewnet. the box says it supports Freesync. Why the contrary JohnLai ? Got any insights review/specification?

Wait, the box said KG240A support freesync? If the box said so, then probably yes. There is a model without freesync capability too. Beware!!! (The only way to be sure --->Check the box)

Be careful of Acer model naming.
Example, there is KG240 (without A) listed at https://community.amd.com/docs/DOC-1432

MANUFACTURER MODEL SIZE LCD TYPE RESOLUTION RANGE INTERFACE LFC
Acer KG240 24" TBA 1920x1080 48-75Hz HDMI® No


Now, the KG240A claims it support 48-144Hz range using DisplayPort with LFC.
However, information at AMD website http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/softw...ming/freesync#5

Acer KG240A 24" AD-PLS 1920x1080 TBA-144Hz DisplayPort™ No


Notice the panel type? Advanced Plane to Line Switching (AD-PLS)
The funny part is......majority of sellers are listing KG240A as TN panel....so...which one is true?
Did you check the panel type on the box when you view it?

If box mention 144hz with 1ms stuff --->confirm it is TN panel. PLS panel can never reach 1ms.


EDIT: Did you have picture of the box you saw?
Just saw the box --> It is TN panel for sure, AMD Freesync logo is there.....

EDIT2: Something is fishy about the panel type. The price is too cheap to be good. (As I said...you get what you pay for) Maybe the panel is 6bit+FRC....or the panel has ghosting problem? Does the monitor even pass AMD Freesync certification process in first place? (Got conflicting info on panel type)

This post has been edited by JohnLai: Sep 20 2016, 08:57 PM

Ahh I see thanks for the insight. I'll help snap and post it here if got the chance. Waiting for a review from a forumer here if possible

Hmm.....impossible lor......most of us doesnt have the stuff for proper review.

Example, to measure color uniformity, need to purchase Pro edition of colorimeter which cost RM1200 such as Spyder5Pro

Next, to check for ghosting at high framerate, either relies on eye or another high speed camera which costs a bomb too.


Anyone with acer monitor can open up the 'service menu' by pressing the button in this order counting from the left to right.


5, 5, 4, 4, 2, 3

Press Fifth button twice from counting from the left to right. Then press Fourth button twice. Press Second button and finally press Third Button.

A service menu with all the details will come out like this:

Click to zoom open its original size.

Example, you can see my Acer XB241H panel is sourced from AUO M240HW01 V8.
Googling 'panelook M240HW01 V8' and you will see panelook site on specific information on that panel.

Here some info on my panel found at panelook


Now you see why it is tough to make choice?

hei thanks for the tip bro about how to check Acer settings.

Wow with that kind of information to decide, somewhat i understand why ignorance is bliss

wow
thanks for the input. there are so much hidden correct info by the manufacturer.
legit not lying. just not telling lol.

comparing that, KG240A cheaper and have Freesync.
but im using gtx much sad.

GTX? It seems like you will be stuck with G-Sync type unless if you plan to sell off your GPU and buy AMD....but there are few considerations.

Here some info about FreeSync and G-Sync.

1) Quality control
Every monitor made to support G-Sync need to pass nvidia strict certification checks. Example, all panel must support minimum variable refresh range of 30Hz, cannot has certain amount of ghosting or severe flickering at low refresh rate range and use certain approved panels only.

AMD hands off the panel selection stuff, quality control and refresh rate range to monitor manufacturers. This is why some freesync monitors have low refresh rate range (as the result, Low Framerate Compensation or known as frame doubling at lower fps will not work), has some pixel inversion and ghosting issues. But it is cheaper....

2) Freesync doesn't work in Borderless Windows Mode, it only works in Exclusive Fullscreen Mode. G-Sync works in both Mode.


As I said before......some Freesync panels are using the panels which failed G-Sync quality + certification checks .....So...if you ask if you should purchase KG240A....then its cheap price with somehow 144hz+1ms+FreeSync should tell you something about its panel quality....

JohnLai what's your overall impression on XB241H ? coz im seriously considering to get it as well if i was to get a gtx 1070

i want to achieve the awsmness of 144hz and above!

This post has been edited by Darksorrow3010: Sep 21 2016, 05:52 PM

.......Overall impression ---> Poor man cheapest G-Sync capable monitor.

So......180hz OC mode -->backlight bleeding like hell. Black becomes gray. 144Hz is still somehow 'okay'

Bad backlight uniformity ---> Upper area of the monitor kinda look like this http://www.overclock.net/t/1597127/acer-pr...0#post_25321888

I propose you to read that forum topic. Yes....green lines of MSI Afterburner issue exists.....

Color calibration wise by using Spyder4Pro.... 99% of SRGB. Uniformity --->Exactly as above link. Don't get me started with Spyder4Pro gamma and grayscale analysis result. The more you know.......the worse it becomes....


Edit: LOL, got someone accuses me on not having Spyder4Pro.
Proof


This post has been edited by JohnLai: Sep 21 2016, 07:46 PM

this makes me want to hold my purchase and wait for new freesync + AMD vega/ new better gsync monitor to come to finally make my choice looooolllll

This post has been edited by Darksorrow3010: Sep 21 2016, 08:16 PM

If so called strict nvidia Quality Controlled G-Sync panel already produced such result.......what do you expect from even cheaper alternative panel from AMD?

I would say....just buy whatever float the boat.

so i took a look at 27" IPS 165hz both PG279Q and XB271HU coz both have almost same specs. comparing newegg's price, both at around $800.

but in malaysia, XB271HU costs "only" RM3200, meanwhile the PG279Q costs up to RM4000. wtf laaaa. leave me no other choice but to consider only XB271HU

Hohoho.....Better don't buy the so called high end monitor yet....there are a lot of problem with quality control recently.

Read this guy post
http://www.overclock.net/t/1605608/asus-ro...u#post_25361051

ahhhhahahah in the end i should just get a gtx 1060 and 60hz monitor (acer R241Y in mind). investing for 144hz experience is like a box of chocolate

This post has been edited by Darksorrow3010: Sep 21 2016, 10:41 PM

Hafta agree with what JohnLai is saying. Acer's advertisement is indeed misleading even for seller like myself.
I carry Acer / Dell /BenQ brands and I find Acer's advertisement confusing and misleading at times.

Can't go wrong with a Dell monitor though.. design a bit boring but hey, the 1-to-1 exchange warranty gives u a peace of mind. Can't say the same for Acer/BenQ warranties.

is this monitor ViewSonic XG2703-GS available in malaysia? spec 99% same as asus pg279q and acer xb271hu

Made me sceptical now..I'm the guy tinkering with viewnet demo unit after saw it on sale for 899rm but unker said can less again. Definitely says free sync and 1 ms plus 144hz. And I'm looking for monitor and right budget. Googled my ass off and 3rd pages show here hahahahah... Indeed we get what we pay for so jut looking around for reviews but found none. Either I top abit more for aoc or BenQ or imma just get this lol