QUOTE(MorningBoyz @ Feb 9 2017, 08:59 PM)
Tread wear 300Traction AA
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Yokohama Advan Fleva V701, S-Drive replacement
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Feb 9 2017, 09:36 PM
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Feb 14 2017, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 11 2017, 08:58 PM) Walao orang kaya, s.drive still quite thick already change! Bigger grooves to channel out water more. Lovely rims btw, where did you repaint it? This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Feb 14 2017, 05:53 PM |
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Feb 18 2017, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 17 2017, 03:36 PM) initial review after that day go touge batang kali to genting. just happen gohtong to genting rain, can test damp condition. 1. more comfort compare to s drive , yellow line feel not as harsh as s drive 2. same damper setting , a lot more roll , just as i use hand to test the sidewall,it feel softer 3. the grip level might be around the same as s drive, i dunno whether the tire fully run in yet , but the limit seem much earlier than s drive, squeeze much earlier. new s drive don't seem to squeeze much. 4. wet/damp condition better than s drive when new, but not sure about aquaplaning resistance though my suspension setup guy suggest me to play around with the damper clicker to try first as he said this tire better than s drive, i will try to. for now if you ask me, I will choose S drive instead. QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 17 2017, 07:42 PM) QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 17 2017, 09:43 PM) Ya need to give some run in mileage first, maybe after 500 km then review again. If after that still not good then can forget about it. I will be very disappointed and surprised if it's really worse than S.Drive coz S.Drive is already very old tire and not as good anymore compared to other newer tires available now. I watched a youtube for this Fleva tested against CSC3 in Tsukuba and it did beat CSC3 pretty comprehensively, granted CSC3 is also an old tire but still a pretty good one. |
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Feb 18 2017, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 18 2017, 05:43 AM) Just back from genting, learned something new today. hahaha actually for my style of driving I don't think I need that's much of mileage to run in, I checked the tire don't even seem to be any wax (shinny) leftover on the thread. Hmm that's a bit odd, coz you said the sidewall is already softer yet you still need to run with even softer dampers. What's your tire pressure? Did you play around with that? But anyway if based on you finding, then this tire might still be suitable for me coz my car is also still soft even though already using TRD shocks & Tanabe springs with some UR bars. The story is like this. Wednesday I was touge on damper setting (F10clicks R12clicks count loosen from full stiff), and I felt the grip was bad, so easier to reach tyre limit compared to s drive. It felt even worst than a 50% s drive and I thought the tire haven't fully run in. Then my suspension guy suggested that I go play around with the damper clickers. Today I touge with my friend (same car ,stock suspension on re003). I set the damper to loosen to F8click R10 click from full stiff. Based on record, my car from gohtong to genting, at least 1 to 2 corner advance if we push our car from guard house to ria aparment. Today run was totally dissapoint with the grip, my friend able to keep up with me and even overtake me due to I dont have the grip to maintain momentum to go in and out of the corner of my low power car. After we yam cha and discuss, my friend ask whether i'm doing full speed or not, because he felt that i'm quite slow today. The yamcha session I was cursing on how yokohama can rated such tire better than the old s drive and thought of trade in it for a set of RE003. I drive my car to gohtong, play around with the setting. Found out that (F11clicks R14clicks soften from full stiff) seem working the best for this tire in terms of grip and roll level. After have some noodle at gohtong restaurant, going downhill, instantly felt a lot better, turn in, grip level, limit much higher than s drive. OC4/3is my passenger, please give some review. hahaha |
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Feb 18 2017, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 18 2017, 12:27 PM) tire pressure same as sdrive among the test which is 225kpa as I found the best on the s drive for this setting, didn't have much time to play around with this new tire. Maybe next you can try with a higher tire pressure just to find out.how do i put in this? may be i should say it's not soft, but it's require softer rebound compared to s drive to put it in working state. Stiffer setting damper feel like the tire sidewall giving up much earlier and less grip. Now on softer you can feel its stick on the road and earlier higher instead. Even though you said your driving style pretty aggressive and don't need much run in, would appreciate if you update us again once you reach over 500km on this tire and let us know how are they, if they still stay the same as now or keep improving or what. |
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Mar 14 2017, 11:05 PM
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Mar 15 2017, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Feb 28 2017, 09:26 AM) Swapped from Neova AD08R to Fleva, size 195/55/15 ... the sudden change in comfort is welcoming. But the handling, well, it's obvious when compared to the Neova considering I take most corners without braking. I have the AD08 on my STI for track, so the threshold grip I know it well. Yeah the comparison is not quite representative coz your previous S.Drive was wider and much thinner which can give the impression of much better response and grip. I'm surprised if the new Fleva is really not better than the outdated S.Drive, but if it's really is then this Fleva is not that good or comparatively much weaker than others of similar category. Good to know though that at least it's good in the wet.Wet conditions under heavy rain, the Fleva performed remarkably great. Have not gone through deep puddles since I had it for the past week, so can't comment on hydroplaning. But it does give me great confidence when it rains heavily. I've had 2 sets of S-Drive before, both times the sizes were 205/45/16 on my previous Jazz GE and the current Jazz GK, before I swapped to 15" Neova. Due to different profiles, I can't say whether S-Drive is more comfortable or not, but it does feel so. I would say road noise is considerable lesser as compared to S-Drive, but the S-Drive had better grip that the Fleva at corners. It's acceleration off the line is worse than the Neova, but that's to be expected. I find the tire flex a lot when corner, and I have to adjust my driving habit to suit. Will feedback more after I run in more mileage on it. Again, I stress that due to 205 vs 195 and 45 vs 55 profiles, it's an assessment that's not entirely accurate. |
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Mar 21 2017, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Mar 21 2017, 10:25 AM) No scraps on the where the blowout slits.. I have pictures and it's hard to see the slits from far.. Just 2 lines about 2cm each at the sidewall.. Ironically it's near the safety warning signs at the tyre.. Lol.. Has bulge earlier?? So prior the to blow out you already noticed there's a bulge?Anyway I probably think will say it's damaged by me.. Bla Bla Bla.. But as far as I know the tyre has bulge earlier.. Or scratches |
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Mar 21 2017, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Mar 21 2017, 10:51 AM) Oops I meant no bulge.. I just serviced the car last weekend and didn't see anything out of ordinary Hmm that's strange, if really like explode without any prior damage then must be a defective tire, so the QC is not good. Pretty surprising to happen on somewhat branded tires like Yokohama. |
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Mar 21 2017, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Mar 21 2017, 05:20 PM) Oh well am at the tyre shop.. As usual the boss saying that I hit a pothole.. Hence puncture. Yeah that's the thing about tire warranty, mostly difficult to prove hence that warranty in practice becomes nonsense.I told him I was driving at nkve.. When it happened. Straight road where got pothole. And the rims looks fine.. I know he won't believe me so I am changing the tyre and paying for it. But I do worry now on the quality of yokohama...until someone else have the same issue I guess it could be one off experience. Better be cause I still have 4 more donuts to use before swapping to a different brand. Will post more photos of the slits since I took a few after they dismounted the tire. |
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Mar 28 2017, 03:35 PM
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Mar 29 2017, 11:06 AM
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Apr 3 2017, 11:18 AM
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Apr 10 2017, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Apr 9 2017, 02:30 PM) this tyre is really hard to find reviews. is it true directional tires are more noisy? People often said directional tires more noisy but for this new Fleva, the noise rating is only 67-69db so should be pretty quiet.i am deciding between this tire and MC5 continental. tire size 215/50/R17 This tire should be better than MC5 coz it's already UHP class which is 1 performance category higher than the mid range MC5. |
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Apr 10 2017, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Apr 10 2017, 05:44 PM) thanks for the comment. Yes slightly lower but should not make too much difference at least compared to PS3 at 320. I'd expect with normal driving and assuming the alignment in good condition and rotate every 15 or 20k km, a 300 TW tire should last minimum 50k km. Last time I used the F1D5 (also TW 300) last me around 55k km and that's with occasional aggressive driving and pushing hard in the corners with a 1.6 ton d-segment car without rotation (coz my car is staggered setup). If drive normal with rotation and lighter car, surely it should last longer than that.I realized the treadwear is lower at 300, compared to my previous primacy 340, pilot sport3 320. |
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Apr 11 2017, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(ADVAN @ Apr 11 2017, 05:53 PM) Noise rating is about the same for both at below 70db, but probably Primacy should be more comfortable after longer use coz it's designed to be sitting at the mid range performance with comfort as the main criteria, while the Advan Fleva is sitting at the UHP category which is to focus more on performance instead of comfort. |
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Apr 11 2017, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Apr 11 2017, 06:09 PM) been using advan fleva for the past 3 months. Good to hear that. What were your previous tires again?my general review is very nice and comfy. running through water very stable. i also can feel my car very responsive after change this tyre. 215/45/17 Mazda 3 (change all 4) |
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Apr 14 2017, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(dachshundPet @ Apr 14 2017, 09:36 AM) Yoko Fleva review in the following tyre review web site on wet test so bad? Is it safe to drive on wet roads? Thanks. Hmm based on this test, seems this tire is more focused for dry and comfort! http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...r-Tyre-Test.htm Also another point to note is the new Falken Azenis FK510 can perform surprisingly good, matching much more expensive tires, so this tire can be a very good value for money. Then tires which are supposedly in a slightly lower performance category like CPC6 & P7 can match or beat higher performance category tires like the Sportmaxx RT2 & F1A3. F1A3 though I think might end up higher if not for its expensive price. Wonder how PS4 would fare in this test but I think it should top it, so if yo have budget for PS4, just buy that one. Also same case for CSC5/6 series, which surely are even better than CPC6. It's a pity difficult to get the Dunlop Sportmaxx RT in Malaysia. Thanks for the review link! |
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Apr 15 2017, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Apr 14 2017, 10:56 AM) Well in the below test, also by Autobild, it came 2nd though. http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...P-Tyre-Test.htm But yeah in most other tests, the F1A3 seems under performing. In last year's Autoexpress UK test, it also only came in 5th. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-t...-tyres-20162017 QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Apr 15 2017, 02:57 PM) not sure if its trolling or what, it rate the primacy 3 better than the fleva, in dry n wet grip, this make me wanna laugh Well the test was done by Autobild, so surely not trolling but whether it's reliable we don't know. Maybe their testing experience was like yours first time when you use your harder setup hence poor performance. Anyway aside from the AD08R, Yokohama also never fares really well in most European comparison tests. The regular top 5 are either Michelin, Continental, Pirelli, Goodyear, Dunlop, or sometimes even Hankook but seldom Yokohama. |
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Apr 17 2017, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Apr 17 2017, 01:34 AM) but really i'm impress this tyre , for the price , the grip level , not bad, its just the softer side wall not so well for spirited drive. considered that this is for that section of customer i think it did pretty well, the characteristics is like PS3 with slightly stiffer side wall , slightly higher noise. Same as PS3, harder compound and softer side wall. May be its a recipe for good wet grip, the wet grip of this tyre really pretty good ( yea, i'm type these after I touge during raining condition from karak to gohtong). I think this recipe also works much better with stock setup suspension, my fren fiesta fitted with it give quite high remark for it too. Hmm your feedback contradicts that Autobild test. If you look closely at that test result, the Fleva seems decent in the dry but bad in the wet! Though it seems to agree with you on the soft sidewall coz it stated the Fleva as the most comfortable tire! QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Apr 17 2017, 01:40 AM) oh ya , sorry for talking about ps4 in fleva thread, after some testing on f30 which used to be wearing PS3, the thread looks soft n sticker after some spirited drive up n down gohtong , and use the finger nail to poke the thread to test, meanwhile Fleva after spirited drive, the thread still looks like quite stiff and less damage which make me think that thread life on fleva much better on PS4, but for 225/45/18, the price almost double on michelin side PS4 is topping many tests now. I think my next change will be that tire, unless I can get other much cheaper options but still very good tires (maybe the Hankook S1 Evo 2). Anyway the Fleva might be acceptable for its cheap price, you got what you pay for. Wonder how it compares to the Hankook V12 Evo 2 which is in very similar directional design and maybe price also. Another option is the newly announced Continental CPC6 which is targeted to replace and combine CPC5 & CSC5 altogether into 1 tire to compete with PS4. |
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