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 Fundsupermart.com v15, 基金超市第十五章 - Rise the Dragon

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T231H
post Oct 21 2016, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 21 2016, 09:50 PM)
as I recall Prs funds is purchased under your name hence the paper work unlike your unit trusts which are under fsm. to change it you definitely need to fill in more forms for sure
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yes,..about the form...
PRS fund transfer form...
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buyse...ransferForm.pdf

just a note: early this year....not sure about it now....
if you had bought Affinhwang PRS fund from Affinhwang directly.....and if you want to transfer the PRS funds to (FSM) PRS funds....you need to call the FSM CS...they have a special form (cannot get from the web) ...no idea what is the different.
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:03 PM

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Btw if you want to make the most for long term, at least from the current selection:

i) Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund
--- which ride on KGF
ii) CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity - Class C
--- which ride on Ponzi 2.0
iii) AmPRS - Asia Pacific REITs - Class D
--- which ride on AMASIA PACIFIC REITS - CLASS B (MYR)

That's at least observable performance based on the riding fund's performance, but PRS performance period is quite limited (at most 3 years), so if you think the above overap your UT portfolio and you mind having them, then you might need to wait longer to find better alternatives PRS laugh.gif
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 21 2016, 09:15 PM)
I came here to say this and you were the first to post this hahaha...anyways I canceled off my pru saver account with prudential and I will start channeling the fund to Prs fsm starting January to get the Prs tax relief AND myr 1000.
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The increased incentive is effective from 2017 eh laugh.gif

I think those who claim before can't claim dy laugh.gif

Lucky I still can wait for next year early jan biggrin.gif



Mayak tahniah! rclxms.gif
Earn more than 50% for prs investment~


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post Oct 21 2016, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 21 2016, 09:37 PM)
wouldn't that be a correlation when you have KGF in your portfolio?
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Your goal is to make money. Buy a fund which makes money. Not one which cannot make money. Besides most people invests only rm3k for the income tax. Remember that xuzen said aboce the limit = same with normal UT

Above 30 years old already don't think can get the PRS benefits.

prince_mk RHB islamic bond fund (more consistent return) and I aren't going to pay extra SC when another bond fund can give me the same return (cheapskate mode).
But for my portfolio, RHB ATRF. Why? Trust unker dreamer words.

For the stable portfolio I am building of course RHB islamic bond fund.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 21 2016, 10:10 PM
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Oct 21 2016, 09:36 PM)
Which bond fund would u choose ?

Rhb Islamic Bond
Affin Select Bond
Affin Selec Income
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choose both RHB Islamic Bond for local bond and Affin Hwang Select Income for Asia Bond?
btw morningstar show that AHSI punya return lose a little bit if compare to local bond? tapi dia dpt 5 star woh rclxms.gif

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post Oct 21 2016, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 21 2016, 10:08 PM)
Your goal is to make money. Buy a fund which makes money. Not one which cannot make money. Besides most people invests only rm3k for the income tax. Remember that xuzen said aboce the limit = same with normal UT

Above 30 years old already don't think can get the PRS benefits.

prince_mk RHB islamic bond fund (more consistent return) and I aren't going to pay extra SC when another bond fund can give me the same return (cheapskate mode).
But for my portfolio, RHB ATRF. Why? Trust unker dreamer words.

For the stable portfolio I am building of course RHB islamic bond fund.
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I have rhb ATRF too. Main reason of having prs is due to tax relief. So I will put 3k yearly.

As for you I dont see d need for u to buy at this age tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 21 2016, 10:03 PM)
Btw if you want to make the most for long term, at least from the current selection:

i) Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund
--- which ride on KGF
ii) CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity - Class C
--- which ride on Ponzi 2.0
iii) AmPRS - Asia Pacific REITs - Class D
--- which ride on AMASIA PACIFIC REITS - CLASS B (MYR)

That's at least observable performance based on the riding fund's performance, but PRS performance period is quite limited (at most 3 years), so if you think the above overap your UT portfolio and you mind having them, then you might need to wait longer to find better alternatives PRS laugh.gif
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REIT is the way to go for long I mean very long return kan
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Oct 21 2016, 10:12 PM)
I have rhb ATRF too. Main reason of having prs is due to tax relief. So I will put 3k yearly.

As for you I dont see d need for u to buy at this age tongue.gif
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Erm why not, for only 2 years period, If you can invest 1k, government give you 1k, free money eh rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 21 2016, 10:13 PM)
REIT is the way to go for long I mean very long return kan
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This one I not too sure, not knowledgeable enough to give comment sweat.gif

Prehaps sifu here can advise? smile.gif

But so far, regarding PRS, xuzen seems to prefer Ponzi 2.0 version of PRS biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 21 2016, 10:03 PM)
Btw if you want to make the most for long term, at least from the current selection:

i) Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund
--- which ride on KGF
ii) CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity - Class C
--- which ride on Ponzi 2.0
iii) AmPRS - Asia Pacific REITs - Class D
--- which ride on AMASIA PACIFIC REITS - CLASS B (MYR)

That's at least observable performance based on the riding fund's performance, but PRS performance period is quite limited (at most 3 years), so if you think the above overap your UT portfolio and you mind having them, then you might need to wait longer to find better alternatives PRS laugh.gif
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Would still prefer CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity - Class C though
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Oct 21 2016, 10:12 PM)
As for you I dont see d need for u to buy at this age tongue.gif
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Government giving tou free money, you don't want? tongue.gif I haven't open a PRS account. Will open one in 2017 to get the rm1k biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 21 2016, 10:13 PM)
REIT is the way to go for long I mean very long return kan
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I will split 50-50 into REITS and Cimb.
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 21 2016, 10:21 PM)
Government giving tou free money, you don't want? tongue.gif I haven't open a PRS account. Will open one in 2017 to get the rm1k biggrin.gif
I will split 50-50 into REITS and Cimb.
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I'll follow you brother.

eh fsm. if you reading this time to change your measly youth incentive of myr 500.

add on.

pity those guys who sign up prs for two free movie tickets compared to next year new prs holders

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post Oct 21 2016, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 21 2016, 10:21 PM)
Government giving tou free money, you don't want? tongue.gif I haven't open a PRS account. Will open one in 2017 to get the rm1k biggrin.gif
I will split 50-50 into REITS and Cimb.
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I will suggest to keep only one PRS fund, as PPA will charge you annual fee for each PRS fund you contribute each year

Unless you think the annual fee is insignificant to your PRS investment then I have no comment laugh.gif
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 21 2016, 10:24 PM)
I will suggest to keep only one PRS fund, as PPA will charge you annual fee for each PRS fund you contribute each year

Unless you think the annual fee is insignificant to your PRS investment then I have no comment laugh.gif
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I know it's in the website but better asking here so others may know. how much is the annual fee
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 21 2016, 10:29 PM)
I know it's in the website but better asking here so others may know. how much is the annual fee
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Q: WHAT ARE THE CHARGES TO APPLY FOR PPA ACCOUNT?

A: For first-time PPA account application, there is a PPA account opening fee of RM10.60* which will be deducted from your investment amount.
Subsequently, an annual fee of RM8.48* will be deducted from your investment amount for subsequent investment on the next calendar year. *GST 6% included.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...me-PRS--8865#29

To my knowledge, I heard from one of the Financial Planner in one of the investment fair mentioned that the annual fee will be charged per fund per year basis for the year you have contribute the investment to that particular fund.

If you mind about the annual fee, stick to the best fund based on your analysis plus judgement smile.gif
If not, ignore this petty issue laugh.gif
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 21 2016, 10:35 PM)
Q: WHAT ARE THE CHARGES TO APPLY FOR PPA ACCOUNT?

A: For first-time PPA account application, there is a PPA account opening fee of RM10.60* which will be deducted from your investment amount.
Subsequently, an annual fee of RM8.48* will be deducted from your investment amount for subsequent investment on the next calendar year. *GST 6% included.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...me-PRS--8865#29

To my knowledge, I heard from one of the Financial Planner in one of the investment fair mentioned that the annual fee will be charged per fund per year basis for the year you have contribute the investment to that particular fund.

If you mind about the annual fee, stick to the best fund based on your analysis plus judgement smile.gif
If not, ignore this petty issue laugh.gif
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8rm invest for 30 years and you get 240, two funds 480. sap sap Sui for some of the guys here. lol
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 21 2016, 10:38 PM)
8rm invest for 30 years and you get 240,  two funds 480. sap sap Sui for some of the guys here. lol
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That's why stick to one PRS funds to minimize the charges smile.gif

Otherwise say you want to diversify, into 4 PRS funds for example, same total amount you kena 4 times annual fee laugh.gif

Then stick to one PRS fund better right biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by AIYH: Oct 21 2016, 10:42 PM
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 21 2016, 10:38 PM)
8rm invest for 30 years and you get 240,  two funds 480. sap sap Sui for some of the guys here. lol
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 21 2016, 10:41 PM)
That's why stick to one PRS funds to minimize the charges smile.gif

Otherwise say you want to diversify, into 4 PRS funds for example, same total amount you kena 4 times annual fee laugh.gif

Then stick to one fund PRS funds better right biggrin.gif
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I think those funds that does not have movement of contributions will not be charged for that year.
only the annual PPA fees will be charged.
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 21 2016, 10:43 PM)
I think those funds that does not have movement of contributions will not be charged for that year.
only the annual PPA fees will be charged.
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But since you take advantage of the tax relief, you will most likely contributing every year right biggrin.gif

Since the annual fee is per active fund basis, would you invest 4 PRS funds or only focus on one PRS fund? laugh.gif

Unless they decided to stop the incentive, then it might be insignificant la tongue.gif

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Just spent 50% of my incentives on Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex japan) quantum fund.. Hopefully is a good timing biggrin.gif

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