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Davez89
post Sep 3 2016, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(xeda @ Sep 2 2016, 11:15 PM)
You need to learn how to properly calculate ROI and all the proper meaning of each terminology.

You are not doing "nothing" for 25 years. Throughout the whole 25 years the burden of 600/month is on you, not on the asb to give you dividend - hence your assumption of "goyang kaki" for 2nd year onwards is absurdly flawed. Counting only the money out of your pocket is exactly how the banks are manipulating misinformed Malays to use it as a get rich quick scheme.

Liability of the asb loan 600/month is on YOU to pay the bank, ASB can say fuck you and not give you a single cent of dividend in the future, then who's gonna have to pay the loan? and yet you only consider 1 year payment and then 25 year of profit for your ROI calculation, any decent accountant will laugh at your face - which is what I'm doing now, since I am an accountant, lel.

Let me guess, next you're gonna say "but ASB has been proven to give dividend constantly throughout history" - nope, their dividend has been constantly REDUCING in history, it's always in a downward trend and paying ASB loan with the dividend you get only serves as a get rich quick scheme that benefits the bank.

Any decent analyst will tell you paying the loan with dividend is such a stupid thing to do as you are not leveraging on the loan at all. Again, this is why most Malays (with my aunt included) are still stuck in this asb loan loop - oh, woo hoo, pay 600/month for 25 years I'll get 100k in my ASB, but oh shit, they forget 600/month saved for 25 years will give them 180k without counting the dividend.

Malays are just fukin lazy, that's why most Malays are hardly rich, just average or poor.
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one of the most bodoh accountant i've met lol.

where is the dividend for 25 years? which is 175k if says the dividend is 7%?

also not counting the dividend reinvested.
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post Sep 3 2016, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(pokie182 @ Sep 3 2016, 03:57 PM)
Corporate rate bruh
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Corporate rate don't bring into discussion la, bodoh la lu.

QUOTE(Davez89 @ Sep 3 2016, 04:11 PM)
one of the most bodoh accountant i've met lol.

where is the dividend for 25 years? which is 175k if says the dividend is 7%?

also not counting the dividend reinvested.
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If you use the asb dividend to pay for the asb loan, mana ada dividend left, bodoh? Bijan give you donation is it? Bodoh nak mampos la ko ni.

I'm saying those who use asb dividend to pay for their asb loan is bodoh because no dividend will be compounded, why u bodoh fail to realize that, bodoh? Next time read everything properly.
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QUOTE(xeda @ Sep 3 2016, 09:07 PM)
Corporate rate don't bring into discussion la, bodoh la lu.
If you use the asb dividend to pay for the asb loan, mana ada dividend left, bodoh? Bijan give you donation is it? Bodoh nak mampos la ko ni.

I'm saying those who use asb dividend to pay for their asb loan is bodoh because no dividend will be compounded, why u bodoh fail to realize that, bodoh? Next time read everything properly.
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Why bodoh? I don't think you get the ASB loan concept.
You still earn more by using dividend to pay off the whole year installment than saving by yourself.
If the person can bare the installment every year, then do it. But if not, it should be ok too.
They still earn more wat.
By the time you wanna sell off your ASB, you can earn free dividend (people usually sell it in Jan every year) + the difference between principal and total net loan outstanding.
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post Sep 3 2016, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Sep 3 2016, 09:17 PM)
Why bodoh? I don't think you get the ASB loan concept.
You still earn more by using dividend to pay off the whole year installment than saving by yourself.
If the person can bare the installment every year, then do it. But if not, it should be ok too.
They still earn more wat.
By the time you wanna sell off your ASB, you can earn freeĀ  dividend (people usually sell it in Jan every year) + the difference between principal and total net loan outstanding.
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You bodoh la, I never said asb loan is bad, read the whole thing I'm saying and understand everything properly. My point is the people who are paying asb loan using dividend is bodoh compared to those who are using their own money because they do not get the compounding effect of the dividend.

Whether asb loan paid with dividend or own saving is better or not, that is up to each individual la, I say that own saving is better because with asb loan there is a risk and to me the risk is only worth it if you get compounding effect, otherwise it's not worth it.

Ada paham?

Corporate rate for personal loan don't bring into the discussion because it's not open to the public la, bodoh, like that I might as well say I take loan from my parents and go put in asb, win liao.

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post Sep 3 2016, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(xeda @ Sep 3 2016, 09:07 PM)
Corporate rate don't bring into discussion la, bodoh la lu.
If you use the asb dividend to pay for the asb loan, mana ada dividend left, bodoh? Bijan give you donation is it? Bodoh nak mampos la ko ni.

I'm saying those who use asb dividend to pay for their asb loan is bodoh because no dividend will be compounded, why u bodoh fail to realize that, bodoh? Next time read everything properly.
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then pay 600 monthly for? not sure if u even know what the heck ure saying LOL
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QUOTE(xeda @ Sep 3 2016, 09:30 PM)
You bodoh la, I never said asb loan is bad, read the whole thing I'm saying and understand everything properly. My point is the people who are paying asb loan using dividend is bodoh compared to those who are using their own money because they do not get the compounding effect of the  dividend.

Whether asb loan paid with dividend or own saving is better or not, that is up to each individual la, I say that own saving is better because with asb loan there is a risk and to me the risk is only worth it if you get compounding effect, otherwise it's not worth it.

Ada paham?

Corporate rate for personal loan don't bring into the discussion because it's not open to the public la, bodoh, like that I might as well say I take loan from my parents and go put in asb, win liao.
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Lol you not smart either. Different people different commitment.
And i don't agree the word "bodoh" that you used to them because it absolutely not.
The risk is very minimal, and the potential to get ROI is much better than own saving. That's why it really rare to see the people punya CCRIS sangkut because their ASB repayment is bad.
Or you got inferiority complex to call everyone "bodoh"? You got bad habit there. Calling others bodoh certainly doesn't make you smarter.
The word just gonna reflect to yourself w/o you even realizing it.
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post Sep 3 2016, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Sep 3 2016, 09:52 PM)
Lol you not smart either. Different people different commitment.
And i don't agree the word "bodoh" that you used to them because it absolutely not.
The risk is very minimal, and the potential to get ROI is much better than own saving. That's why it really rare to see the people punya CCRIS sangkut because their ASB repayment is bad.
Or you got inferiority complex to call everyone "bodoh"? You got bad habit there. Calling others bodoh certainly doesn't make you smarter.
The word just gonna reflect to yourself w/o you even realizing it.
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he's an accountant but calculation all wrong rclxms.gif
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post Sep 3 2016, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Sep 3 2016, 09:36 PM)
then pay 600  monthly for? not sure if u even know what the heck ure saying LOL
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600 monthly paid from using the dividend la, bodoh, thats why there's no compounding effect. Aiyo. Susah nak cakap dengan melayu bodoh yang fail comprehension ni.

Dah dah, thread sudah melencong jauh from original TS question. Point is, taking personal loan to pay asb is bodoh.
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post Sep 3 2016, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Sep 3 2016, 09:52 PM)
Lol you not smart either. Different people different commitment.
And i don't agree the word "bodoh" that you used to them because it absolutely not.
The risk is very minimal, and the potential to get ROI is much better than own saving. That's why it really rare to see the people punya CCRIS sangkut because their ASB repayment is bad.
Or you got inferiority complex to call everyone "bodoh"? You got bad habit there. Calling others bodoh certainly doesn't make you smarter.
The word just gonna reflect to yourself w/o you even realizing it.
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You started showing ur stupidness when you said personal loan from bank Islam is 3.7%, then later only say its corporate rate, don't use special rate that is not available to everybody else when discussing a general topic like "taking personal loan to pay asb".

The risk of asb loan is up to individual la, some people see it as minimal, others do not. Enough of this topic, have fun continuing the discussion.
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post Sep 3 2016, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(xeda @ Sep 3 2016, 10:13 PM)
600 monthly paid from using the dividend la, bodoh, thats why there's no compounding effect. Aiyo. Susah nak cakap dengan melayu bodoh yang fail comprehension ni.

Dah dah, thread sudah melencong jauh from original TS question. Point is, taking personal loan to pay asb is bodoh.
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Is alright, fail accountant. BTW not I'm not Malay Just Dan
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QUOTE(xeda @ Sep 3 2016, 10:16 PM)
You started showing ur stupidness when you said personal loan from bank Islam is 3.7%, then later only say its corporate rate, don't use special rate that is not available to everybody else when discussing a general topic like "taking personal loan to pay asb".

The risk of asb loan is up to individual la, some people see it as minimal, others do not. Enough of this topic, have fun continuing the discussion.
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You quote the wrong person. I never say that.
I think your bodoh word just goes back to you instantly.
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QUOTE(xeda @ Sep 3 2016, 10:16 PM)
You started showing ur stupidness when you said personal loan from bank Islam is 3.7%, then later only say its corporate rate, don't use special rate that is not available to everybody else when discussing a general topic like "taking personal loan to pay asb".

The risk of asb loan is up to individual la, some people see it as minimal, others do not. Enough of this topic, have fun continuing the discussion.
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And i can understand why you want to stop to proceed with further argument. You cant just keep up with the heat causes by your own stupid fact. Are you really an accountant? Be humble and learn more in future because you seems like the type that love to make noise but zero in general.
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QUOTE(kaffra @ Sep 3 2016, 03:37 PM)
last i heard cimb is offering it again, but only at 67% this time. not as good as last time but still at least an option to not take out the dividen money.
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so just like FD account punya OD la?
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Bodoh!! Semua bodoh!!
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post Sep 4 2016, 10:37 AM

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lol guys don fast to stop fighting . I'm enjoying the banter between inferiority complex 'accountant' and asb loan advocate

One caramel popcorn pls !

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post Sep 4 2016, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(xeda @ Sep 3 2016, 10:16 PM)
You started showing ur stupidness when you said personal loan from bank Islam is 3.7%, then later only say its corporate rate, don't use special rate that is not available to everybody else when discussing a general topic like "taking personal loan to pay asb".

The risk of asb loan is up to individual la, some people see it as minimal, others do not. Enough of this topic, have fun continuing the discussion.
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Lol butthurt because my rate lower than his so called 'average personal loan IR higher than asb dividend rate' HAHAHAHA!


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want to ask again....all of the bank got Lock-In Period ???? means within 3 years cant take the money or take the money and will get penalty which is 3%.... is it correct?
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QUOTE(asusx @ Sep 2 2016, 08:22 PM)
every year this dividen will be revise ke bro?
genting oso got ka? how about UT?
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i mean return from UT vs Genting.
bcoz UT charge fees, see how well they works out.

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