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Sony Sony Xperia XZ -- Discussion, The Best Camera Technology on Smartphone

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post Sep 19 2016, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 19 2016, 02:16 AM)
Not necessarily DSLR, maybe a small, portable digital camera that costs 1k with fast speed. What I'm trying to point out is that we shouldn't expect so much from a phone, which isn't specialize in camera, but if camera is really a priority, getting a digital camera would be more efficient and cheaper.
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Most people want is brilliant output from mobile camera not spend extra to buy those portable digital camera, it is huge burden to carry those portable digital camera also, where you gonna put? inside bag? Not everyone carrying bag, inside pocket? Sorry it still kind of bulky and not comfortable to carry one pocket phone, another pocket portable digital camera.

Portable digital camera is dying, not much people will buying it anymore because phone can do it and did it brilliantly, and camera in phone will keep better and better.

DSLR still will be there and possible forever but portable digital camera? No point buying it at all.

Now camera in phone is priority, most people will check camera in phone than others functions.

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post Sep 19 2016, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 19 2016, 02:22 AM)
Most people want is brilliant output from mobile camera not spend extra to buy those portable digital camera, it is huge burden to carry those portable digital camera also, where you gonna put? inside bag? Not everyone carrying bag, inside pocket? Sorry it still kind of bulky and not comfortable to carry one pocket phone, another pocket portable digital camera.

Portable digital camera is dying, not much people will buying it anymore because phone can do it and did it brilliantly, and camera in phone will keep better and better.

Now camera in phone is priority, most people will check camera in phone than others functions.
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I get your point, but I think phone is constantly downgrading their capability by making it thinner, I think camera won't go far in mobile, UNLESS they made a modular parts for it with much bigger sensor and all.
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 19 2016, 03:11 AM)
I get your point, but I think phone is constantly downgrading their capability by making it thinner, I think camera won't go far in mobile, UNLESS they made a modular parts for it with much bigger sensor and all.
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Thinner is last year trend, this year seems nobody talk on slimming down anymore. Hehe

Technology keep update, we won't know what will appear in future. Possible new thing coming out, not matter how I believe camera is main point in mobile at least this few years or maybe forever. Haha.
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I've decided to sell off my Note 7 to a person whom liked to get one, and get the Xperia XZ. i can't keep on using a risky device. doh.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Sep 19 2016, 09:30 AM)
I've decided to sell off my Note 7 to a person whom liked to get one, and get the Xperia XZ. i can't keep on using a risky device. doh.gif
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Me too, and I already found the buyer of my N7 - My sister blush.gif
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post Sep 19 2016, 09:49 AM

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people are demand too much.. but the theory behind of photography is not breakable.. small sensor in smartphone camera will not achieve any special wow impact..

even the professional also need proper lighting/tripod for photography.. so dont expect any smartphone camera can exceed DSLR/real camera in real life..

smartphone camera are usable for daily life capture.. expect some blur/noise.. other than that, all manufacturers are trying to deliver something to attract some new buyers and feel their products are WOW.. in fact, still under 1/2.3 inch sensor or 1/3.2 inch sensor..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Sep 19 2016, 09:49 AM)
people are demand too much.. but the theory behind of photography is not breakable.. small sensor in smartphone camera will not achieve any special wow impact..

even the professional also need proper lighting/tripod for photography.. so dont expect any smartphone camera can exceed DSLR/real camera in real life..

smartphone camera are usable for daily life capture.. expect some blur/noise.. other than that, all manufacturers are trying to deliver something to attract some new buyers and feel their products are WOW.. in fact, still under 1/2.3 inch sensor or 1/3.2 inch sensor..
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People not expect until that level of DSLR. Just a clear details image, no oil painting effect, no too crazy noise, no side blur issue. That it. (I am criticizing all previous Sony phone issue, haha oops)..

Added features like optical zoom and extreme wide angle or even the pure black and white is welcome.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 19 2016, 09:10 AM)
People not expect until that level of DSLR. Just a clear details image, no oil painting effect, no too crazy noise, no side blur issue. That it. (I am criticizing all previous Sony phone issue, haha oops)..

Added features like optical zoom and extreme wide angle or even the pure black and white is welcome.
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i totally felt u. haha. whats saying.
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post Sep 19 2016, 11:18 AM

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I dont mind anything that come from Sony as long as they make Z Ultra successor. Make it XZ Ultra with 6.44" please, not 6". Been waiting since then, but Xiaomi did it with Mi Max.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Sep 19 2016, 09:30 AM)
I've decided to sell off my Note 7 to a person whom liked to get one, and get the Xperia XZ. i can't keep on using a risky device. doh.gif
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Surprised me that many still using note7 despite all the warning...
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 19 2016, 12:43 PM)
Surprised me that many still using note7 despite all the warning...
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Some don't have spare phone.
I'm still lucky that I haven't sell off my Z2, otherwise I will left empty handed.
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I'm lucky too, my Xperia Z can still be use (abit hot and battery not last)
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Sep 19 2016, 01:48 PM)
Some don't have spare phone.
I'm still lucky that I haven't sell off my Z2, otherwise I will left empty handed.
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I tot samsung will give a temp replacement phone?
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 19 2016, 02:22 AM)
Most people want is brilliant output from mobile camera not spend extra to buy those portable digital camera, it is huge burden to carry those portable digital camera also, where you gonna put? inside bag? Not everyone carrying bag, inside pocket? Sorry it still kind of bulky and not comfortable to carry one pocket phone, another pocket portable digital camera.

Portable digital camera is dying, not much people will buying it anymore because phone can do it and did it brilliantly, and camera in phone will keep better and better.

DSLR still will be there and possible forever but portable digital camera? No point buying it at all.

Now camera in phone is priority, most people will check camera in phone than others functions.
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As long as hp camera sensor is small compare to digital camera than hp camera will nvr win in image quality
Unless ur pic is for wasap n fb or ig, then it's ok.

But for special moment or event that need to be remembered, digital camera is still better.

For me, i rather buy cheap rm500 hp n 2nd hand camera like rx100mk2 for rm1.5k instead of pay 2.5k for hp only
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 19 2016, 02:07 PM)
I tot samsung will give a temp replacement phone?
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Unfortunately, in our country, nope.
Exception is that if you bought from telco, they will offer you a loan phone.
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Sep 19 2016, 02:08 PM)
For me, i rather buy cheap rm500 hp n 2nd hand camera like rx100mk2 for rm1.5k instead of pay 2.5k for hp only
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I use a flagship phone (cmon, its with you for the longest period of time), a compact shared among family, and a DSLR in cast I want to be a professional.
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According to Marco Kao Blog XZ priced at 22900 taiwan dollar, convert to myr, 3k+ shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Taeng9389 @ Sep 19 2016, 03:35 PM)
According to Marco Kao Blog XZ priced at 22900 taiwan dollar, convert to myr, 3k+  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Haha, my wallet is crying now. Gonna sell off my Note 7 before the value drops.
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Probably gonna sell some kidneys for this
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QUOTE(Taeng9389 @ Sep 19 2016, 03:35 PM)
According to Marco Kao Blog XZ priced at 22900 taiwan dollar, convert to myr, 3k+   shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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This price should be expected for a flagship phone. Moreover with our ever falling currency. Any pointers to when this phone will be launched here?


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