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TSParaOpticaL
post Jun 6 2013, 06:41 PM

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Hi Poks,

whats the expansion plan for your farm ??

sorry bro dont have any contact on fruit ripening facility...cant help you on this

QUOTE(poks @ Jun 5 2013, 04:39 PM)
Hello Mr Para,

Sabah at the moment is at the end of monsoon season. still raining here & there. expanding my farm this month  biggrin.gif.

Btw Para, you mentioned before that your farm housed around 200 cavendish. I'm wondering if you know any person who operate any fruit ripening facility.

I'll really like to know the cost of setting up small ripening facility.
thanks..
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Hi MrFarmer,

sorry to hear about your wife's problem. hope she get well soon.

QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Jun 6 2013, 05:39 PM)
No idea how is the Farm. I left my farm in early April, as I had to come home due to my wife's health issue. Shall only goes back after my wife's issue had been sorted out.
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TSParaOpticaL
post Jun 8 2013, 10:41 PM

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Hi Bro,

what makes you think that there will be really low productivity ???

for your durians ?


QUOTE(Kg Teratai @ Jun 8 2013, 10:31 PM)
Hi Farmer

Hope your wife get well soon.

Currently the weather is very extreme. Extremely hot... and rain...
There goes my durian. The coming session will be really low productivity.
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TSParaOpticaL
post Jun 13 2013, 07:03 AM

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Hi Bro,

OIC. its quite true that proper irrigation and fertiliser management and actually help minimise flower drop.

my sifu's farm in Raub is doing fantastically. as of 2 months back he had already on the tree 6 ROUNDS of DURIAN (from flower to anthesis to fruit).

so in essence it can be said that he has durians every 2 months. which is really out of this world.



QUOTE(Kg Teratai @ Jun 12 2013, 11:01 AM)
The weather is extreme. It was very hot from morning until afternoon and suddenly there was heavy rain that cause the small durian drop down. Majority farm in my village are affected. Only very few farm that take pre-caution that watering their farm daily can sustain to have more durians.

How about your sifu's farm in Raub?
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TSParaOpticaL
post Jun 19 2013, 10:25 PM

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Hi People,

the latest Agri & Aqua Culturing Newsletter is released. Clink the link below or from my signature

http://www.mediafire.com/download/hfiq7ja2...3_Quarterly.pdf
TSParaOpticaL
post Jun 26 2013, 05:09 PM

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we will try to bro.

do you have any experience you want to share ?

do write to us at agrinaquanewsletter@gmail.com

Our next edition will be in September 2013



QUOTE(poks @ Jun 26 2013, 01:18 PM)
p/s: can put more pictures on the next edition?
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TSParaOpticaL
post Jul 9 2013, 01:50 PM

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Hi poks,

none of us are good writers also. we just want to contribute and we hope that you are also able to contribute and make it better with your experience also.

yeah my banana trees were also infected with mild sigatoga (sp) ...

if not mistaken i used Mancozeb and some sticky liquid so it sticks to the banana leaves. please treat it when you see the symptoms and also best to enquire from the agriculture shop.



QUOTE(poks @ Jul 6 2013, 08:13 PM)
Well, i'm not a good writer. Lol

Btw mr Para, do your banana have been infected with sigatoga?
I have a feeling mine is infected but not severe.

Hopefully you can share some fungicide brand.
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TSParaOpticaL
post Jul 15 2013, 08:42 PM

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Last week while i was in Raub, due to supply and demand forces the price of Musang King rocketed to RM 40.00 per kg. And imagine if you had 100kg a day that would mean RM 4,000.00 per day....crazy drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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Hi poks,

no problem. try it and let us know the result
QUOTE(poks @ Jul 10 2013, 12:18 PM)
Thanks for the info Mr Para,

I did ask around but most agriculture shop (which i'm fond with) doesn't specialized in banana. mostly short term crops.

Anyway, they proposed to me to try Hexaconazole 5%... will test it this weekend..

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Hi MrFarmer,

The brand i need to check and update you later. Well the agriculture shop uncle told me its a must thus i think its sticky enough to be applied onto the banana.

the wetting and sticking agent should work out fine.


QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Jul 13 2013, 08:25 PM)
Hi Para, what is the "sticky liquid" that you are using, and how "sticky' is it.  Am trying to look for a good & cheap 1. Was recommended to use the silicone type, but very costly. Bought 1 that is a wetting & sticking agent, had not tested it yet.
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TSParaOpticaL
post Aug 21 2013, 08:07 PM

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Hi Bro,

frankly speaking for agriculture industry ie vege planting or herb planting or fruit planting most of the farmers cant hire outside "professional" help due to cost and their are unable to justify this cost or they themselves are lost making

you should be looking into bio-tech companies or companies that has their own lab doing tissue cultures. that would be your best bet.

or you can seek Jabatan Pertanian's help and see if they have a trainee programme that you qualify to go to as i believe fruit farming you can make a comfortable living with proper technique and technology... biggrin.gif




QUOTE(gsdfan @ Aug 19 2013, 12:49 PM)
Dear Agri Players,

Greetings.

I'm 25 years old and graduated with a degree in molecular biology then move on and work for 2 years in this field as a research assistant with skill such as Plant and Epithelial cells DNA extraction, PCR, Laboratory and Equipment maintanence, White blood Cell culture and ELISA. Computer literated on Word, Excel, and basic statistic software like Graphpad PRISM.

2 years into in the research industry, I'm not comfortable with the payscale and stipend provided. My salary is just RM1600 per month.

May I know are there opportunities that I could pursue in this field? I'm willing to start from the bottom. Probably at entry level.

Please advise me, as I'm still young and single and I'm can travel and stay far away for work. With regards to salary, I'm inexperience I'll most probably agree with anything better than my current pay.

Please advise me, I'm based in Kuala Lumpur, University Malaya. Thank you very much.
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TSParaOpticaL
post Aug 23 2013, 09:36 PM

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Hi Cattitude,

thanks for reading about this thread.

well we actually discuss everything and anything under the sun. Agriculture & Aquaculture related are the focus of this thread.

Some are in this field (graduated in agriculture field), some like me (accounting background) and mrfarmer are from non agriculture background.

What we do basically is either share information or ask for other people's advice on how they overcome their problems.... biggrin.gif

About your issue, no offence but if you are targetting to oil palm or rubber estates i would discourage you (dont get angry) because it is really a different world out there especially you are a female because i know of estates or plantation are usually on the path less traveled. And security will be an issue and of course the travelling of far away places.

You represent a agriculture fertiliser company ?

Welcome to the thread again....

QUOTE(Cattitude @ Aug 23 2013, 03:08 PM)
ParaOpticaL as per topic I see it is regarding agriculture thread. mind to share what are you all discussing about other than newsletter? enlighten me briefly so that I can catch up what you all discussing about. blush.gif
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TSParaOpticaL
post Aug 27 2013, 08:22 PM

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Hi Bro,

welcome to the thread.

my veges and fruits and chicken and fish are usually planted and reared for own consumption. so yeah because of organic fertiliser and no pesticide so the stuff taste great, and no antibiotics

personally i am a Jackfruit & Papaya & Durian fruit farmer

QUOTE(brewoe_1988 @ Aug 27 2013, 08:31 AM)
hi Agriculture & Aquaculture PROS, being following this thread sometimes and really interested on starting a small scale of Agriculture & Aquaculture...perhaps on my backyard....just wondering how you guys test out the product that you are are working on.. for example Agriculture...did you guys actually taste the vege or fruits before selling to market??how about those fishes?? did you guys cook and try it yourself 1st?? i kinda scare of testing fishes that i rare....for vege and fruits im ok...im interested on farming fish and duck eggs...maybe some short term vege or fruits... tongue.gif
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TSParaOpticaL
post Aug 29 2013, 08:18 PM

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Hi Bro,

yes i intend to budgraft them but not currently. maybe next or so because i am concentrating on my jackfruit, papaya & soursop now.



QUOTE(Kg Teratai @ Aug 28 2013, 04:34 PM)
Hi Para,

do you think to graft your old durian tree to musang king?

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TSParaOpticaL
post Sep 1 2013, 07:30 AM

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Hello fellow Agriculture & Aquaculture enthusiast ...

The September 2013 Edition is OUT>.....................

Read All About It.............

September 2013 (Quarterly) Newsletter
TSParaOpticaL
post Sep 6 2013, 12:31 PM

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Anyone interested to attend ??? i am thinking of going there for a visit.

QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Aug 31 2013, 06:25 PM)
Agroworld Expo 2013 @ MITC Melaka 1st – 3rd Nov 2013

Agroworld expo 2013 is dedicated to agriculture, aquaculture and targeted to bring together 50,000 farmers, dealers from across the country to this event, agriculture, aquaculture.

https://www.facebook.com/agroworld?flyingsp...location=stream

Anyone been to this before? Any good?
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Hi Bro,

welcome abroad.

What does your agronomy degree specialises in ?? it depends. my view on fruit tree farming are great. the potential is unlimited (i sound like MLM) but its the truth.

You can head towards some big fruit producing companies or some fertiliser companies to get your basic knowledge...

QUOTE(xeroxphan @ Sep 2 2013, 01:35 PM)
Hey guys,

I have question about jobs available in agriculture. I recently graduated with an Agronomy degree from USA. What are the prospects in the field? I tried KLK, Sime Darby, but there are no openings in their plantation department. Any idea which companies I could try applying to?
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TSParaOpticaL
post Sep 6 2013, 10:13 PM

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Hi Bro

the prospect is good for prawn farming as most of our prawns are exported to EU & USA. But please head over to Jab Perikanan for Business Advice and proposal. they are best to help you.

but also beware that currently USA might impose "Anti-Dumping Duty" due to some unscrupulous
companies getting cheap quality prawns and resell as Malaysian prawns.

this industry has good potential.

i would like to apologise because i am not able to give your more in depth advice because i am currently in Fruit Farming, and that's my forte

Hope this helps

QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 6 2013, 05:58 PM)
Paraoptical

What do you think about the prospect of prawn farming? Previously I have access to prawn farming research via academic studies but that was in overseas and not in Malaysia. However, given the mundane task of working in office culture, I want to give it a try. Do you happen to know anyone involving in prawn farming? Your great advice is appreciated.  smile.gif
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TSParaOpticaL
post Sep 15 2013, 06:36 PM

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welcome bro...

how is everyone's farm doing ???

its the raining season....
TSParaOpticaL
post Sep 22 2013, 10:51 AM

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great on doing the soursop. if you have problem on the soursop trees i can help you with it

also on the jackfruit trees

QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Sep 21 2013, 04:23 PM)

On a side line, transplanting so Gaharu, grafting some Jackfruits, propagating lime, germinating some soursop, avocados & durians (Musang King  drool.gif
Life as a farmer is hard, but is great!
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practically what you mentioned below on jackfruit is what i see in Mantin. fresh, whole and cut fruits and recently sold as jams....

you are planting alot ?

QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Sep 21 2013, 04:50 PM)
Jackfruit

Hi Guys, would like to start a discussion on methods / ways of marketing Jackfruit, fresh / processed, flesh & seeds.

So far, I seen fresh, cut up and selling by weight. Packed and sold in fruit stall and supermarkets.

Processed as chips

Process as Jams, cakes, ice creams.

What other ways?
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TSParaOpticaL
post Sep 26 2013, 09:43 PM

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Welcome bro.

Do update us on the processes for jackfruit when you finished compiling them for your Indian Friend.

As for me currently working on my papaya planting and also plan to do a Trial Plot for J33 - Honey Jackfruit and i want to see how early can the tree fruit.

Also will plant some soursop trees also. Busy with the piping works now for the plots



QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Sep 24 2013, 12:47 PM)
Thank you Para.
Soursop am having just 1 fruiting tree and the rest, about 100 trees just planted from April till July. Now germinating more. Tried grafting on 2 trees just for fun.

Jackfruit, have 2 fruiting trees, planted maybe 50 trees early this year (non-grafted). Germinating and grafting (learning) more. Hope to  plant more. Working on J29, J 31 and J 33.

I shall most probably sell as fresh fruits when I harvest.

As for the way of marketing / processing Jackfruits, it's more for a friend (India) as they are looking into ways to help their local farmers. I am compiling and would forward to him with pics as soon as I can.
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post Sep 27 2013, 07:34 PM

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Hi Bro,

thanks for visiting the blog. soon i will add another blog on soursop. Buddha say, "Sharing Wisdom is Good Merit". Thus i hope to share what i learnt from other farmers also. If you have questions do ask...would try to answer as much as possible... biggrin.gif

will read about the jackfruit problems they are encountering and see if any ideas come up. Do you have any specific problems that your friends are facing apart from the file attached ?

Good question on why i chose J33 of all.

Reason No. 1

This clone fetches are very good price here in Mantin. For Clone Yap and Clone Sime Darby, Grade A fruits are only RM 1.30-1.50 per kg MAX. Where as J33 aka Nangka Madu aka Honey Jackfruit fetches are price of RM 1.70 - 2.00 per kg for Grade A fruits. Thus 1st reason is economic.


Reason No. 2

From the data i surveyed, i found that J33 is difficult to cultivate. Why i say so, i had talked to a lot of J33 farmers they are at wits end on how to make J33 fruit all year round and also hitting 20kg and above (more for exports reasons). Thus alot of older generations that are farming Clone Yap & Sime Darby in Mantin are very reluctant to change over because these 2 clones fruit all year round.

I want to help the farmers in Mantin if they allow me to, so i can help them improve yield and make a good living. I would also like
change farmer's mentality that this is a poor man's job and low level profession. 2nd Reason is a challenge for myself and vision to help fellow farmers. (inspired by Buddha)


Reason No. 3

And as i want to progress into Fruit Farm Advisory i chose J33 for its difficulty to cultivate and if i am able to make J33 fruit all year round and also hitting 20kg and above then i can make ends meet. Thus that's the 3rd reason (Grow myself & $$$)

Cost of plantets that i bought are RM 5.00 each. Irrigation is built so i depend less on foreign workers and weather for my trees. I strongly suggest you slowly have irrigation for your place if permitted. Great benefits for your plants and yourself.

I think i am one of the crazy few that would love dry spells throughout the year because with irrigation you dont have to depend on weather for water. If dry spell happens then you are king because most fruit trees will drop fruits due to no water and IF you have irrigation in place then you will be one of the very few with fruits for harvest.

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Durian & Soursop that is intercropped with Papaya quite lucky that place is flat but too many rivers crossing the place. The cost of Durian = RM 7.00 and Soursop = RM 8.00 (all depends on supply also, sometimes wait 2-3 months also no tree)

My intention of that land was for the papaya to generate income and cover for the waiting period of 3-5 years for Durian and 2-3 years for Soursop thus i tried ploughing in lots of organic into it. 10 ton of FOM 361 = RM 10,000.00. In that one acre, i am able to plant 400 papayas with 12 durians (40x40) and 48 soursops (20x20).

If this plan works out (hopefully) i can expand and also present this paper to potential investors and show them planting durian or soursop dont have to painful as it is now. LOLx....

I had set up irrigation and i will update the blog by monday. I think my type is the sour one haha...but i will check with the nursery. Prices of soursop fruit = RM 18.00/kg at the market

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Yeah glad we have lots to talk about and when you are back in KL, do call me and we can visit again...would love to get your ideas. You meant Soursop trees ?? If on soursop i am not sure about it but my tree fruited around 18th months.

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Sorry for the long post. Do share if you have other thoughts bro biggrin.gif


QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Sep 27 2013, 01:08 PM)
Just to share a publication from a friend on Jackfruit and the problem that they are encountering. Please feel free to read thru' and comment. Hope that we can be of help to them.
Jackfruit The Forgotten Kalparik. [attachmentid=3648532]

Just visited your blog. Nice work.
Just wondering, out of the many varieties of Nangka, why J33? What is the cost of your Nangka plant-lets? Why the need of irrigation? I remember your land is not that high.

On your Durian & Soursop, I see you are blessed with a flat piece of land. What is the cost of Durian & Soursop plant-lets? I see you spend quite an amount on land preparation. 10 tons of FOM 361 (fertilizer?), cost? Do you also intend to do irrigation here? Durian = Musang King  rclxms.gif  ? Soursop there are the sweet and sour variety. I'm working on the sweet type.

I'm so glad we have so many plants in common. We shall have plenty to share. I read that it takes about 20 months till flowering.
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post Oct 1 2013, 01:17 PM

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Hi Bro,

Yeah planting stock is abundance cause there are a lot of nursery. possibly you could be one big one in Sabah biggrin.gif

The Red Colour nangka could be Clone Yap. Wow your sousop fruited in 30 months. btw how long do they need to ripe ??

if you have the sweet variety please give me some if you have extras would love to get a few.

Well i found out that with irrigation you can get about a 30% difference. Probably you could do for some of your main crop rather than all.

What breed of papaya are you planting ?? I am planting the Foot Long variety. They are germinating quite well on direct planting.

Frankly speaking no fruit tree crops are lazy man's crop haha sorry about that. the nearest to it is Jackfruit. it has less work for maintaining the tree.

PS if you have good avocado seeds, please pass me some if you have extra. my place kinda difficult to get avocado...lolx

Looking forward to seeing you at the farm when you are back



QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Sep 29 2013, 11:39 AM)
Yes, I totally agree that sharing is good. It create good karma, good positive energy and elevate our own learning. Hopefully by sharing our experience, we can motivate more people to go into farming.

Good for you. Cost of planting stock is low at your place. Here, it's a different ball game.
Durian Musang King $35, Nangka J33 $28. There is also a new variant of Red colored Nangka, quoted at $80 each. Hence I'm trying to set up my own nursery. My first (one) soursop from seed fruited in about 2 1/2 years (harvested). Am taking the seeds from this tree to propagate plus the seeds that I brought back from Vietnam.

Soursop at the wholesale market is only $2.50 to $3.00 (buying). They are selling for $4.00 to $4.50. Nangka about $20 ~ $35 per piece. They cut up and sell loose easily 2 ~ 4 time the cost price.

The present land that I'm planting in does not justify for irrigation. Cost is tremendously high and not feasible. So am leaving it to fate. Rain fed. Avocado, Nangka, Rubber trees, & Soursop should be drought resistance enough.

Yes, Papaya is a good short term cash corp. My trial was good. Am planting the rest of the small farm. Work & cost input is higher than banana, but yield is higher too. Do keep in mind that as the tree age, it gets higher = more work managing & harvesting. Am already replanting the phase 1 of my Papaya. Had culled of some as it's too tall, not healthy, round or yellow type. We can only plant 1 round of papaya, until the main crop grows.

Am still trying to find a 'lazy man's corp' so that I can put in minimum work now and enjoy the harvest later, all with minimum work and cost input  drool.gif . Hope that maybe I can find it in one of these, Avocado, Durian, Jackfruit and Soursop. Am also experimenting with Lime.

Looking forward to your update. Oh yes, am in KL now, but leaving tomorrow morning.
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post Oct 19 2013, 12:18 PM

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Hi Bro,

the picture of the mango tree above can be confirmed as APPLE MANGO. saw one tree 2 weeks back. biggrin.gif


Red Jackfruit (could be another name here in Peninsula), Borneo (never heard), Mastura (Yes), CJ3 (Yes)

Their prices ranges from RM 7.00 - 12.00

how do you plan to ship them back ???


QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Oct 19 2013, 10:35 AM)
Hi Para,
Would like to check with you if there are any seedling suppliers in your area for Red Jackfuit, Borneo Red / Songsang Red, Mastura J37, Crystal Jackfruit CJ-3 or CJ-6. Also kindly check out the price.

Was thinking of getting some of the above and take it back with me to Sabah.

Am also wondering taking off the soil, keep the roots moist with old news print, bagging up the roots, removing (leaving 2 leaves). If it'll survive the trip, preparation & traveling 2 days)?
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