Don't think make sense comparing Grandezza semid with Cheria 😉. Cheria HTC, facade, fengshui, material already the loser but complimented with good size and price. However still the sales is not good, wonder why. After few months launched, still like sales less than 40%. Even the 40% also have doubt as TA like to play sticker game only.

This post has been edited by csdarkjedi: Oct 2 2016, 08:00 AM

Yea la. Not sure why people like to compare here, compare there LOL.
Either product has its own pros and cons. There is no perfect house. There are many factors involve e.g. person financial situation, person lifestyle preference etc.
For me, I can afford to buy either a Eco santuari semi-d or a Tropicana Aman Cheria.
I eventually decided to buy Cheria.
Here are my reasons.
1) The Type B Cheria is a value buy - 3200sqft 2 storey real semi-D for 1.25million in a low-density landed property neighbourhood with large parks, canals and lakes from a reputable developer like Tropicana :-)Nowadays, double storey houses in some neighbourhood already 1 million over. Tropicana Aman master plan is the brain child of Datuk Edmund Kong. http://www.tropicanaaman.com.my/master-plan/ . Datuk Kong is the master architect for Desa Park City previously. I know he has left Tropicana but you can see the details of his vision and planning in the site layout for Arahsia, Bayan and Cheria. e.g. how the house is being arranged within the neighbourhood, the road traffic flow, the linear garden arrangement etc within the neighbourhood etc.

2)House layout - Cheria Type B Open wide space on the ground floor (combined living, dining, breakfast/dry kitchen area - without any walls that will make the home look big and airy and allow more flexibility to decorate its interior etc). 3 cars can park side by side on one row with another 3 more cars in tandem on another row for the visitors.

3) Cheria is a PanaHome...a smart home (sort of). I want to buy a functional/practical house that solves problems. For example
a) solve the bad air quality inside our house problem/ annual haze problem - https://youtu.be/rYhcnuUnGj0
Uhmm....we are more than happy to share with Eco santuari owners our dirty our air filter is in the future to show how polluted the Klang Valley air is :-)

b) solve the house heat problem and water leak problem - http://www.panasonic.com/sg/homes/technical-feature.html
I want to clarify the point that you said that the material used is a loser. I assume you are referring to the prefabricated concrete used vs traditional bricks.
On the contrary, the prefabricated concrete used is of high quality that need to pass vigorous quality control testing. The reason the material cost is cheaper is because it is pre-built in a controlled environment vs a traditional concrete brick wall that need to be built on site which incur higher construction labour cost.
In Japan, these material is used to withstand strong earthquake and strong wind etc.
In this case, cheaper material does not mean loser material. More expensive material does not mean better material. Prefabricated concrete are high quality product.

c) helps with security monitoring - Cheria comes with prebuilt home monitoring system

As for your concern of Cheria HTC, Most Cheria units is far enough from the HTC as the HTC turn and head north at the Jalan Kebun junction.
The closest unit to HTC is at the northern end of Cheria which is approx 200m-300m. This is an acceptable distance.
Most Cheria units are more than half a kilometer from HTC .
The unit I choose is approx 800m-1km from the HTC.

Regarding the sales status of Cheria. Bear in mind these are millions over dollar homes launched under difficult real estate market.
The sales is actually not bad especially the Type B Cheria.
In fact, the Type B Cheria is almost fully sold as of the latest sales chart.
Type A Cheria has more units available as it is more expensive and it comes with dual frontage design.
Most people cannot envision this dual frontage design yet but I expect that a model house under construction will help.
As a matter of fact, Tropicana has been very generous in term of allocating land for the backyard linear garden for the dual frontage home.
I expect the end result will turn out better than the dual frontage home in Desa park city Amelia neighbourhood.
For those looking for dual frontage home, the type A Cheria are great choice.


At the end of the day, either chosing Cheria or Eco Santuari semiD is a personal choice. Both are nice product developed by good developers.
I figure that I can use the extra $500k difference between Cheria and Eco santuari semiD to go invest somewhere else e.g. buy another DSL, buy another rental properties etc. LOL

Yup buddy its out.

No need to write so long bro, Cheria have its plus point definitely 😉

anybody here got the Grandezza site plan and house layout info?

yes. I abit cheoung hei hahaha.

I am just sharing my view and thought process with other potential buyers out there.
I am sure there will be potential buyers that will face with the same decision I need to make earlier e.g. Eco Santuari semiD vs Cheria.
When someone raised some points about Cheria that I disagree with or not exactly correct ..I want to clarify it.
Real estate like anything else is governed by supply and demand.
Again there is no perfect home. Everyone need to decide for themselves.

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very nice to see ta vs ecosanc comparison. Long run much higher chance cheria win la. Ecos undercon product looks far from how it is described. either way, personally sure nt worth to pay extra 500k for leasehold semi d. can use to buy 1 condo n rent out.

Time will tell.

Looks good. Very contemporary/modern look.
Happy to have such an eye pleasing and sharp looking homes in Canal city.
It will raise the profile of the whole Canal city.

Boss, checked daily at certain period (month end), need to monitor if those employee working or not, bear in mind we contributed a bit on their salary (LOL... joke, ew staff dont shoot me !!)

Hot discussion in TA and ES

500k or not am not really sure, remember myself once asked how to calculate, got ignore maybe they knew i got no $$ to buy monterey, lol..

As for monterey/terraza, and i believe it may applied for grandezza as well..
i.) 52ft width road that applied for every single jalan within the parcel
ii.) min 30ft backlane garden for every unit
iii.) density wise, 7unit/acre for terraza, 5unit/acre for monterey, 3unit/acre grandezza

etc... etc.....
Depends if any personnel can accept the above that jacked up the pricing, of course you have to pay for these fancy stuff

Hehe... I think whether RM500k worth or not is not just measured by the size, the dimension and the materials as they mentioned (though these are part of considerations too), but the intangible parts as well, ie the quality of life / environment, the perception and sense of premium. After all, buying property is sth very personal.

Salute u

is it 500k diff ? 😱
It will be interesting if we can find out why 'eco'world not using the eco way to build the house
Boss you go em inquire , i go es

This post has been edited by wong8981: Oct 4 2016, 10:51 PM

Else how to cheat post count, lol..

Yes . I agree with you all. It's a personal preference and personal decision.
For some folks, the $500k is worth to be paid e.g. someone who like the modern contemporary look of the ES neighbourhood, Eco world brand and premium
All these cannot be measured by $ and cents.

We are not here to say TA is better than ES or vice versa.
To me, we belong to the same Canal City neighbourhood....together we rise. together we fall.
Canal city has something for everyone at different pricing level.
Our property price will rise together if the residents and the developers work together to maintain the beautiful central park, the environments etc.
http://www.tropicanaaman.com.my/master-plan/

The blueprint is there to make this area a very nice area to live and a sought after address in Southern Klang valley. Maybe it can become the Desa Park City of southern Klang Valley or better LOL (dream big dream on) You know ...Bandar Rimbayu has already won the Township of the Year award....so...nothing is impossible..
The accessibility in this area is awesome also once WCE is completed together with SKVE, ELITE and KESAS.

This post has been edited by willyboy88: Oct 4 2016, 11:00 PM

It is reported that EW aims to achieve the Green Mark Certified Township status for Eco Grandeur. For Eco Sky, it is recognised by the American Leadership in Energy and holds three certifications – Environmental Design (LEED) certification, Singapore’s Building and Construction Authority’s (BCA) Green Mark and Malaysia’s Green Building Index (GBI) certification.

So, considered eco or not?

Yup, there is such a huge potential in Canal City whereby the 3 big developers (IJM, Tropicana, EW) and now plus another one, Gamuda offering different products that cater to diverse group of buyers (though there might be some overlapping). I can foresee a success in this area!