From fuji from sony ? to Canon eos R5 ? R6? Nikon Z6 II ? Nikon Z7II ?

eh typo.
from sony to fuji

canon -> nikon -> sony -> fuji.

where is next

Godox TT350F is a bit small but powerful enough to be use in indoor setting. As for the light modifier, I would suggest you to get the shoot thro white umbrella if you are using it with the TT350F.

As dark angel mentioned, if you want better control over the light spills, Softbox would be a better option. But because of softbox usually comes with 2 layers diffusion, it will cut more light from your flash, so TT350F might not be suffice.

As such, my suggestion is that, you get X1T (F) + 1 Godox TT685F, use it with softbox (that comes with double diffusion) + 1 Godox TT350F, use it with an umbrella.

To be honest, a TT685F price should be around the same as TT350F. With 1 model each, at least u have the option to go higher power of the TT685F when u need it. If you get 2 TT350F, then you are stuck with what TT350 can output only.

Just my 1 cent.

Olympus.

By the way, welcome to Fuji. I used to see you in Sony alpha thread also when I was using Sony a6000. Like you, I've jumped to Fuji since 2 years ago.




This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 16 2020, 04:05 PM

I have been using natural light all these years to shoot my family portrait.. they works, but sometime is a little unpredictable (depends on time of the day or weather)... especially now im planning to do a series of yearly portrait of my daughter from 1 year old, 2 year old etc.. So im hoping for a more consistent look and solution.



Haha.. maybe I should stated more clearly.. my budget mayb around rm 500-600 range. Dont want to spend like thousands (a fortune) for something that i might only use for 2-3 times per year.

Yeah. I am actually thinking to pay for a photo session... but i figure why not use the money, to buy something that I can use and shoot on my own. That way I can always take my sweet time... you know baby timing , sometime hard to time properly. And also because of the current pandemic, most of her grown up photos are shoot indoor inside my house... and is getting a little bored with how i can make better photo, without going to other location.

Another thing is that, my baby is no longer a newborn, although it feels just recently she is.. next month she will be 1 year old... and pretty active, and climb all over the place. Sometime just rely on natural daylight entering the house, I couldn't get fast enough shutter speed to capture a motion free photo, without sacrificing on image quality. So hoping a flash will help in this case.

Thanks for your research and sharing!:

1. Most probably indoor.. since we are mostly trapped in the house for now.
2. She is 1 year old. I do wish though, for portrait , going for a 35mm will be a better choice. but at the moment x100 23mm is my only option. I can always crop a little closer in post.. since there is enough megapixel for me to crop, and sharing in social media, and handphone. is really more than enough. But did do some photo printing, so have to be careful as well.
3. most probably 3 person max. not planning for 5-6 people of group photo
4. Yeah.. but I wonder if it will be a bit more tricky, since I always struggling with different white balance from different light sources.
5. I guess I probably go for Softboxes perhaps, because i have used it before in the past. But umbrella seems easier to set up. My guess is that Umbrella will spill larger area? and softbox can be a bit more "dramatic" and focus?

I have another question.. just asking for opinion with Constant Lighting vs Flash... instead of buying Flashguns. will it be better solution to use lightbulbs with softbox? I actually kinda worry if the flash will scare my daughter... if it does, then my plan may backfired.





Thanks for sharing! Very helpful! I'll be using primarily Indoor. "X1T (F) + 1 Godox TT685F, use it with softbox (that comes with double diffusion) + 1 Godox TT350F, use it with an umbrella."
I'll look into this set up. im only looking at TT350F cause i thought it is affordable. but having 2 different flash seems to be a more practical solution! Thanks again

with flash how can you not able to capture fast movement ..?

constant lighting is good enough, alternative for flash

Now you're giving me a clearer picture. I too have the same predicament and had trouble photographing my kids indoors, fast shutter speed without cranking up the ISO. SO, if you just wanna photograph your kids indoors (all their activities and shenanigans), what I do is I place my flashes at strategic high cabinets pointing to the walls and ceiling as bounce flash to flood the halls with flash light (well, my condo ain't that big so that's doable with 1-2 flashes up to the ceiling). which allows me to shoot indoor action photos at low ISO.

This also solves the problem with what you might be thinking as 'direct softbox or umbrella light' towards your kid which might make her wonder what this tall stand is about and make her not do her usual expressions and activities. A few flashes at strategic high points in your house to flood the ceiling and walls that she is usually standing at is better. you don't even need TTL, just constant manual light cause you won't change the lighting much. can go for cheap powerful flashes like TT600 if you're on a budget. if your halls and walls are huge and faraway from where you can place your flash, then you might need a little bit more power.

Cheers

When I bought my TT350F, the brand new price was actually more expensive than the TT685F. But even now, the price of the TT685F is not that much different from the TT350F. These are their respective cheapest prices I found on shopee. You can check them out at the links below.

TT350F - RM 298 https://shopee.com.my/Godox-TT350F-Mini-Thi...9587.7302124704
TT685F - RM 328 https://shopee.com.my/Godox-TT685F-Thinklit...3886.7334774626

Since you wanted 2 flashes, I assume you want to use the 2 lights setup, by using one as main light and one as hair light, which shall be similar my setup as shown in the first photo below.

If you have budget constraint, I suggest you buy the 2 flashes + 1 softbox first and don't worry about the umbrella for the time being. If you look closely to my first photo below of the daughter and mother, the mom's hair light(rim light) is too soft for my liking because it was diffused by a 41" umbrella.

DSCF3801 by Loseeker, on Flickr

So, in order to make the hair light more obvious, I took off the umbrella and put a snoot (which i DIY using cardboard paper) instead at the next person, and the results was much better (at least to my liking) as shown in the below photo.

DSCF3288 by Loseeker, on Flickr

I would suggest you perhaps try to play with 1 light + a softbox instead of getting 2 flashes straight away. Get yourself familiar with 1 light setting first then move on to 2 lights setup. Because even one light you can get great results if you know what you're doing. The below photo was done with only TT685 + the softbox. I also agreed with what Dark angel said about the TT600 (a manual flash with no TTL). It is quite cheap yet same power output as the TT685F and in indoor environment, you won't be needing to change much of the flash setting once you've dialed in the right flash exposure to your liking.

DSCF9421 by Loseeker, on Flickr

There are plenty of youtube tutorials that teach you how to master one light such as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKOr9eH7NI&t=377s

I will prefer flash over constant lighting, because I think constant lighting is not strong enough to "freeze" the subject, but that is just my personal opinion. And so far, I don't have much problems of using flash to photographs minors, yet.

DSCF2265 by Apa Macam, on Flickr


This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 16 2020, 11:22 PM

I think i can relate my situation to yours. Also condo, but plenty of white walls n ceiling which I can bounce my light on. I think in many situations, this is how im gonna use the flash most of the time... and occasionally when I try to do "studio photoshoot" only then I bring out all the softbox and stands.

Actually I am kinda lost with all the different godox flashes , TT350, V350, TT600, TT685...I think i'll just go for what you guys recommend Thanks for sharing





Wow Thanks for sharing , and even finding the cheapest link for me! At least I have an immediate idea the average cost of these flashes. I'll look into TT685 since it is only rm30 difference compare to the TT350F..

Yupe, my idea is to have one main light, and another as hair light (or fill light, or less intense secondary light from opposite of main light). Appreciate that you even share with your examples! Really helping here!

Yeah I think i should just stick with 1 flash + 1 trigger + softbox + a big reflector for now. Until im more familiar, only I get the second unit. Less damage on my wallet If im to get only 1 flash, would u recommend me go for the TT350F or TT685F? I look at TT350F due to its size and recommendation from some youtube x100f photographer, but wasn't too sure of the limitation, beside being a smaller power unit.. and 1-2 sec recharge time?

On second thought, I think constant lighting wasnt a good idea too (unless im doing videography , youtube video or such), since I cant just adjust the power on the fly.. And there is less versatility if i want to use it outside from the "studio portrait" session.

Thanks again for sharing. I will definitely come back and share my photo outcome here!

Those are lovely photos. The one with the kid's smile at the end takes the cake!


1. The nomenclature for the Godox line up is TT = AA batteries, V = lithium ion batteries. 350, 685, 860, = with TTL. 300, 600, 850 = manual only.

The higher the number 3xx, 6xx+8xx (equal power) = higher flash power.

Whichever you choose, I recommend going for the lit ion ones instead of the AA battery ones. But really, nothing wrong with the AA ones. Just convenience and slightly faster recycle times.

2. Yes, can totally do bounce flash first and then set up more 'posed portraits' later. I would say, based on my experience, getting the kid used to daddy always whipping out his camera with Flashes makes the later process of getting them to pose for the camera and not be daunted by the Flashes makes for a much better experience....

3. If you're using the X2T trigger, don't be afraid of changing your settings on the fly. Very easy to adjust without having to go to your flashes unless you decide to change the physical position of the flashes. Once you set the trigger to each flash, changing them is easy.

Cheers

If you start with 1 flash first, I would suggest you to go with TT350F. Because it is small enough to match well with our Fuji camera bodies. Not that TT685F can't be used on the camera body, but it is a bit big. Having said that, I did sometimes use the TT685F on my XT20 as on camera flash when the situation call for it. The last I did that was when I was shooting a wedding reception where I was simply not confidence with the TT350F output power as well as the durability of the battery life (due to the fact that it only carries 2 AAs which run out of juice relatively quickly). But if you only using it for family portrait, I don't see that TT350F shortcomings are of any concerns to you.

On second thought, if you can stretch your budget a bit, I would suggest to get the V350F. The only reason why I went with the TT350F was because at that point, the V350F wasn't available yet, else I would had gotten the V350F (lithium battery) instead of the TT350F. But then again, when I bought mine (TT350F), it was such a good deal. So I guess I can't complain...

You can watch Robert Hall Photography video where he is an expert in Godox flashes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgvAOKM5WC8&t=458s

Regarding this, Tony Northrup has a good video about this, worth to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsR-abyjFD8
Me, personally, I won't go for continuous lighting exactly what you've mentioned above.


Thanks bro.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 17 2020, 01:33 PM

1. Thanks for the line up explanation. That really clears a lot of my confusion, and no need for me to look into all of them.
2. I find for my casual use, maybe AA battery one will be more convenient? such as when vacation, less one charger to bring. can always buy extra battery in 7-11. And I dont do professional event shooting, so recycle time is not as crucial. Previously i shot with Sony before, shoot some weddings , and event and really find the flash recycling time is super important. Anyway, i'll look into the V version and put into consideration.
3. Im looking at x1t actually, cause it is the cheapest.. is there a huge upgrade to go for x2t? worth the extra.





Thanks for the suggestion. I ll go for TT350F or V350F because of the smaller size, for my x100f. I'll look into Robert hall videos! Thanks again everyone for sharing.

let say if i use custom 'film simulation', how can i not use this, when i select the film simulation that already come with the camera? i notice if i use my custom setting, i cant make it 'neutral' again, if i am using the any built-in film simulation.

I would suggest you to take a look at the Godox XPro trigger instead of the X2T if you're willing to spend more than the X1T. Because I really don't like how the X1T trigger are kind of blocking the shutter speed dial and make it hard for me to adjust the shutter speed while it is sitting on the hotshoe. I think the X2T may be blocking the iso dial. The XPro trigger would not have that problem.


You can just shoot RAW format.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 17 2020, 11:45 PM

no other way than this?

Not that I know of. If you shoot Jpeg, you have to pick a film simulation. There is no other way around it other than RAW format.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 17 2020, 11:54 PM

2. This is entirely up to your discretion. You're the best judge for that cause everyone's mileage will vary.
3. X1t and x2t not that big of a difference in price. To me, the x2t is worth it because the operation and buttons are left hand oriented including the dial which is a big deal in terms of ergonomics. On top of that, the fact that the X2T has a more convenient twist lock hot shoe connection vs the screw type lock is also a lot more convenient. For me, these ergonomic advantages are really a contributing factor.

Xpro is really good, no doubt. Price also though... If budget allows, the Xpro trigger is awesome.

However, to me, the X2T is vastly different in usage compared to the X1T simply because of its shape and button placement. The fact that it bulges more to the left side and leaves the right side open, clear from disturbing the dials, buttons all also left hand oriented, allows me to hold the camera and comfortably adjust settings with the left hand... The twist lock itself is also a nice convenience... Price wise also comparable

Cheers

This post has been edited by Dark_Angel85: Oct 18 2020, 09:23 AM

So Fujifilm just released the XS-10

Is this the successor to the XT-30? or a completely new line?

New line, yes. Primary target is to draw apsc users from other systems (canon/nikon/sony/pentax) who are already familiar to the PASM mode dial and don't like fuji analog dials. And also could be successor to the X-T30 because rumor has it, fuji is consolidating the X-A7, X-T200 and the X-T30 into one. But then again, just a rumour....

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 20 2020, 04:26 PM

If i understand you correctly, you set a custom film sim with a lot of customisation, eg WB shadows highlights etc. Now you want it back to normal. What you need to do is to set up a Custom setting that is "neutral" or back to normal.

EG C1 = custom film sim
C2 = Basic classic chrome

that way when in C2, you can change film sim in camera and everything else is "neutral"

Keep in mind that XT3 and below does not have custom WB for each C1, C2. That means if u WB shift on auto WB, for C1, when going into C2 to make it neutral, u MUST go back to the menu and revert WB shift to neutral. XT4, X100v and Xpro 3 (dont know about XS10) are the only cameras that can set custom WB shift for each C1, C2, C3