As the topic stated,i'm thinking should i change or not?
I'm still a student,own a myvi with 9 months old.
I am working at the same time which i afford my car by my own

I would like to get some opinion from forumers here which car should i go for
pros and cons listed out will be appreciated!

my budget is around 70-80k
Where i understand in between this budget, there are a varios types of cars out there available.....

but for some reasons....i'm considering these 2 models at this point.

Need opinions.....Thank you

*I'm a 20 years old girl. honest opinion wanted....no teasing no shooting

thanks

This post has been edited by Trojan: Jan 24 2007, 10:57 AM

if you are planning to change your 9 month old myvi for a new car, i would suggest you stick with the myvi for a few years.
you'll lose quite a bit of money selling the car now.

Save your hard-earned money for other more substantial things; after all, you already have a car, and it's not even a year old. It's unbelievable how ppl spend money these days...

Actually, you used the wrong words. There's no such term as "faithful opinion". The correct term is "honest opinion".

Secondly, go get a swift. It has good promotions now, and it has a good pedigree of excellent engineering, and third, it is a japanese car, which due to the public's perception, retains its value much better than a 206cc.

Besides, the 206cc is really an old car. Looks like crap too (for me at least). The swift looks like a mini wannabe, but at least it pwns the 206cc in terms of performance and handling.

well,not to say i'm complaining. it justi sick of the problems that occur on my car
I hate to waste time to complain to sc that my cars problem....really wasting a lot of time...yet...problems aren't solved till now!

not syaing that spending money,it just....i've spend money,but it buys me troublesome at the same time...this is sad you know?

fren, economic is bad now, don't burdern urself lar...u already got a decent car...

except u from a rich family

Just like what others have advised, stick to your 9 month old Myvi for a good few years before you decide that it's time to change your car.

EDIT: What are the problems that are bugging your Myvi? Probably you can enquire the members in the Myvi thread.

This post has been edited by Aquanox28: Jan 24 2007, 10:59 AM

Why the hell would you want to change a 9 month old Myvi to another car? Are you that damn rich?

yah...this is another concern point. I've counted,the minimum will be losing 7k including the interest...

After considering your two options, I say still stick to your Myvi for now. Possibly and probably when you have fully graduated and can start to concentrate on your career, thats when you should consider changing cars. Although it gives you problems but a 9 month old Myvi is such a waste if you just sold it off just like that...

This post has been edited by J-Slade: Jan 24 2007, 11:06 AM

[quote=soggie,Jan 24 2007, 10:55 AM]
Actually, you used the wrong words. There's no such term as "faithful opinion". The correct term is "honest opinion".

Secondly, go get a swift. It has good promotions now, and it has a good pedigree of excellent engineering, and third, it is a japanese car, which due to the public's perception, retains its value much better than a 206cc.

Besides, the 206cc is really an old car. Looks like crap too (for me at least). The swift looks like a mini wannabe, but at least it pwns the 206cc in terms of performance and handling.

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thanks for your correction,i've edited it

Yah,the new promotion offered by swift now really attractive~
yah...206cc value-retained. That's why i choose second hand car,where new car will bring a great lost.

Swift and 206cc look fine for me

[quote=ken]
fren, economic is bad now, don't burdern urself lar...u already got a decent car...

except u from a rich family [/quote]
well,thanks for your opinion.
not to say burden myself. But i still afford to get these 2 car.
I sick of complaining and fixing my current car.
thanks

[quote =Aquanox28 Posted Today, 10:57 AM
Just like what others have advised, stick to your 9 month old Myvi for a good few years before you decide that it's time to change your car.

EDIT: What are the problems that are bugging your Myvi? Probably you can enquire the members in the Myvi thread. [/quote]
That's why i need advice here~

problems such as leakage,disc brake problem,braking system
i've been complaining...and they keep on delay all the inspection.....giving me a lot of excuses....
i've been fixing the leakage for 5 month time
replaced 2 new carpet .....problem still there.....and it makes my car smelly!
those small minor problems,i put them alway already,i just listed out the major problem for me

excuse me! Stated that No teasing or shooting!

What's the different when i have it now or later when i graduated?
doesn't make any differences, does it?

Just keep on using the current car for as long as you can while spending the least money on maintaining and repairing the problems... Later on, when the car really starts to cause lots of trouble, dump it and buy a non-national car...

You might lose more than RM7k, maybe you'll lose RM10k, but you'd have trashed the car and used it to its maximum potential before dumping it, and that means you've gotten the most value for your money!

People, the reasons she want to change her car is none of your business. If you have problem with that, then go to your emo corner and cry your heart out.

As for the thread starter, the myvi has a lot of problems it seems. But bear in mind that even with a new swift (especially a CKD one), you might just get the same lemon car as you did with myvi, although the chances are lower.

But seriously I'd say take the Swift. If not mistaken the 206cc is due to be replaced anytime this year, and the swift will be staying for a long time to come.

my advice is 2 stick wit the myvi 1st..unless u really hv enuf(not ngam2 ok)money 2 spend on new car

Yup. Just keep the car atm. But if u still planning to change, go for the swift. Nice looking car. Cheaper to maintain then the 206.

it won't be 10k as i loan not much,and short repayment time...i loaned 10k and 3 years repayment
put the lost away first.....my problem is....everyone when i drive my car, i will sick of it. i smell bad oudor.....then brake also feel the steering vibrating crazily

i didn't hear anynews of 206cc..... if newer,i think won't be too much different....i know 206cc looks ghost for its light.... unless it lets 207cc comes in. then different story

Thanks for your understanding of my situation that i encoutering now.
I am attracted with its promotion now.
i get a lot of good comment from it so far.......

i would say dump the myvi as soon as possible if you don't like it. The way the market is now, the longer you hang on to it, the higher the likelihood of you loosing even more. There is still a high demand for the myvi, so getting a reasonable price for it isn't quite hard.

The Swift would be the obvious choice because it is new. While Peugeot makes good cars, there is always the risk involved in buying a second hand car, and spare parts for a continental car like the Peugeot is not cheap, nor easy to find. I for one would recommend peace of mind anytime over loosing a few thousand ringgit. Once your one year warranty on the Myvi runs out, you'll be forking out even more to get the faults repaired.

TS should point out that you need advice on buying a Swift or 206. Not should or shouldn't you keep the lemon.

agree with se7en,
swift would b a better choice.
jap vs continental
jap is always more value for money.
and a plus point my bro drives a swift.
no major defects i can say lucky
but that is what u expect from a CBU.
another point for you to ponder,
it is actually not reallyfuel efficient.
i did suggest you to get a 2nd hand jazz or a new city..

no worries,not ngam ngam to bear the car~unless i bear a civic now.....then i really ngam ngam able to afford it.

yeah bro,this is what i looking for.....
there's still a high demand of myvi...
i don't really know about peugeot's maintenance and spare part price...whether is easy to be found or not.



I never asked if i wanna keep my car or not.....i just need advice on buying swift or 206cc

the new 206cc is 140K
i'm getting 3 years old,at 78k +-
which one did you mean that is not really fuel efficient?

jazz and city will not be my choice..as i don't get interested in honda's cars
besides civic,too bad over budget

Agree with you on that. Come on guys, if she already stated that she can afford a better car all by herself. By all means go ahead. I would pick the Swift anytime than the Peugeot coz the French has bad resale value, expensive to maintain and rare spareparts. The 206 is aging and getting old. If you insist on getting the 206, how about a new Naza Bestari 206? It's based on the original Peugeot 206 but rebadged and local assembled. At least its a new car with warranty.

the swift full tank u can only get around average 370km++

i dunno bout the 206cc fuel efficiency.
u get the car abt half it's price now.
but when u r selling it how much r u gonna sell it...?
the resale value can never beat a jap car..

thanks for your comment!
problem is i like both of them,but i can't buy 2 of them
resale value...hmmm....i think i will not sell it in short
i concern about the spareparts .....is that really difficult to get?

sorry,i'm looking for 206cc,which is the cabriolet 1....2 doors....differnt with 206 and naza bestari...
thank you


is that worst?
full tank 370?
my vios also almost 460km

opps, my bad, the cabriolet 206. Too be honest, it may look nice as fashion but its a crap at least to me. Sorry to say that. Rare spareparts is one thing, expensive to maintain is another thing. And dont be surprise if the French has more problem than your myvi. Have you ever consider the SmartForFour? Yaris?

Suzuki Swift (if you can afford it). Maintenance is less hassle and I believe it comes with 0% for first 2 years or something like that so it's quite a good deal for a imported car. Servicing a Swift (5K service) will set you back RM200 (oil change, oil filter and labour). There are some QC issues with the Swift. Some folks complain that the noise on the roof when it rains is a bit loud (and irritating).

Fuel consumption isn't an issue I suppose as you picked 2 cars that aren't famous for it's FC. No offence, but I sincerely doubt you'll be able to take care of a Conti car. They're really fussy and need a lot of attention.

If you do want to get a 206cc, get it from the owner direct or browse the PeugeotClubMalaysia forums as enthuiast tend to take care of their car better. Expect to set aside money (few grands) for parts change, especially if you're planning on getting a second hand one. Conti cars are great to drive, I tell you. Driving a Conti car and a Jap car has 2 different kind of feeling to it. It has a more dignified driving experience but it also comes with a price to pay. Part prices wise, there's a way to get Ori parts cheaper, but you need to join a Peugeot Club and there are 2 in Malaysia. My personal advice for a conti car is know your parts and their lifespan. Each and every part has a lifespan. Changing them accordingly (preventive maintenance) will ensure a pretty much problem free ride.

Personally, for RM70-80k, I'd get the Alfa Romeo 147. Nice 2-door or 4-door hatchback that's really sweet to drive and it looks and handles so damn much better than the 206cc. Honestly, if I had RM80k and a car to use already, I'd dump that money into the FD and wait for 2007-2008 cars. Selling your Myvi now, you'll lose a lot of money. So.. should you change or not? Maybe not... but if you can afford it, why not?

p.s. ever wonder why of all the PUGs, there seems to be more 2nd hand 206cc for sale than the rest?

I don't car much about resale value and stuff like that.

Having a convertable isn't that practical in our country. Of course you could always drive with the roof on top.

But the car doesn't look all that great.

A normal 206 would be ok.

Well, i don't think car selection here is important. A budget of 70 to 80k can get you quite a good car already. If the car is as troublesome as you mention, wish it goodbye, no point paying for maintenance that sums up like a monthly installment fees for a new car.

Unless you like the cabriolet style, otherwise go for a brand new Suzuki Swift. Besides, the new 207cc already announced.

i believe the myvi has 3-4 years warranty, and if one service centre can't fix your problem, it's time to move on to another center.
as for the losses from selling the car, i think it should be closer to 10k with interest added in.
as for which car to get, remember CKD swift is expected this year.
if style is your top priority get the 206cc, if you want practicality, get the swift. Since you at it, why not look at the toyota yaris or honda jazz (even more practical)

thank you both Bros for suggesting Yaris...

anyway:
Serious part:
from your choice, i personally will go for Swift. Reason being its a new car & have attractive promotion now...

Joking part:
ah... this is a rich & young gal lah... can PM me ur photo ka? get a Yaris lah.. then can be companion loh... hahaha...

common: (just for your reference should you need it)
i'm driving a Yaris now, getting it during the RM4k discount + 5years free maintenance offer...
now my milage <700km (not yet 1st service...)
the fuel consumption is on the bad side... doing only 310km for 30Liters of Shell (not V-power), but 100% city driving...
besides some might say "cheap interior plastic feel" which i somewhat agree, i still satisfy over my previous wira built quality...
i more thing: the sound proof is on the good side... very quite inside even on a busy road...

On that post on comparing the swift or the 206 (i assuming u taking the cc version not the bestari on ur earlier post), although sounds like a great idea for a lady to drive a 206 cc, but i would suggest take a look at a used honda jazz as well for the best all rounder for small cars.

Swift is a good choice however there are concerns on the service, maintainence (as Suzuki malaysia isnt that wide),possible poor 2nd hand value and so on.

I can see a 2004-2005 2nd hand honda jazz for around 70k or less.

Btw i just found out u dont like honda, but trust me, getting a honda in mysia is a better choice in mysia, as Honda has good service and maintainence in mysia.

Just wondering what wrong with ur myvi? We do have a discussion thread on the myvi and so far we recorded no problems.

Mind sharing some? Can u visit our myvi thread?

This post has been edited by travis_ckf: Jan 24 2007, 05:04 PM

From what I remembered, Suzuki Swift get the award car of the year 2006.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Jan 24 2007, 05:55 PM

Get swift...peugeot 206 is too old already, in terms of design.
Swift good but abit pricey.

well, if ur driving a conti like peugeot, expect to pay a great margin to service the car, especially to our cuthroat naza! so it is expected the cc to be more expensive in parts, as logically the parts are imported from europe

whereas, a japanese suzuki swift, if im not wrong, its manufactured by drb-hicom, ckd, parts should be available locally and parts are interchangeable with most suzuki models, which means, parts would be easier to find than the cc

but in reality, what do u really need it for? i know a kid's grandfather, whose a huge restaurant owner in kampar, kam ling if u ever heard of it, he drives a peugeot 206cc, comparably, my uncle drives a toyota mr-s, its open top and priced to be similar too. that gives a lot of attention.

but of course, i heard the suzuki swift to have the best handling, if not the closest rival would be the proton satria neo, which is definately hot as i own one. but of course, ts, theres no seating space in the 206 cc, only dogs can sit there! peugeots are also known for unreliable engines, unlike the suzuki's, plus having a new car means ur gonna save money off maintaining a car! 2nd hand car means = expected maintenance.

This post has been edited by KeV: Jan 24 2007, 06:27 PM

206CCs are kinda famous for their leaky roof

so, my vote goes to the swift

i thought all suzuki swifts in malaysia are direct CBU from Japan?

there are CKD oso!!??

please enlighten me... e.g. how to differenciate them etc... this oso help the TS oso i think... thanks...

my bad , i think the suzuki apv is a ckd, whereas the swift is a cbu, and is imported by drb hicom, sorry

Suzuki swift currently is still CBU from japan, but this year DRB will locally assembled it.

OIC... thanks for explain it...

does that mean when the transision complete, no more CBU from Japan liao?
then the price shall be cheaper rite? or we will have 2 type of swifts to choose from --- (CKD-cheaper, CBU-more expansive) ?

I'd go for the Swift.
I've seen it, been in it, never drove it, but it was nice.
There is a suggestion though, why not you let a mechanic fix it(not Perodua SC). Finding a good one isn't going to be easy though. But at least you won't lose almost 10k when buying a new car. Just a suggestion, if you wanna buy 1 of the 2 cars, go ahead.

if you lose only RM7000, then sell the thing and buy another car.....loose RM7000 can solve all your headaches i think it's damn worth it!!!

take the swift, and if you've got extra cash, wait for the swift sports!!!

i think the swift is pretty a nice car albiet alil too femine imho. hence, i think it will suit TS best

Good luck and i hope u get a problem-free car this time!

myvi is a good car... sparepart easy to get... cheap.. and so on...

edit: local made tend to give u headache...sighh

suzuki and 206cc???

the 206cc
cabriolet coupe.. hhmmm do u need the sun to tanned u more?? and ruin the beautiful face u have?...yes u can have the "glam" feeling with a topdown car... but.. this is malaysia.. either it is HOT.. or it RAINS...

suzuki??
hhmmm a good car i assume.. but... think about maintainence... and resell value... yup swift is damn nice car... handling good.. power good.. and have the urban chick feeling (if u r a girl driving it).... but please look in the weekly motortrader to assume the resale value...u dont see much of suzuki product/car models here in malaysia...

edit more: heheheh i just realize u r a girl... no wonder many attention.. j/k

This post has been edited by Lord_darkslide: Jan 25 2007, 04:50 PM

its funny how that the prob car at hand now is a myvi, n i can see that almost everybody is advising her 2 keep that car eventhough its problematic.. if she were 2 have....... say a problematic gen2 or a waja 4 example, im very very sure n certain that everybody will advise her 2 dump that proton eventhough she'll lose a whole load of cash.. funny isnt it??

anyway, back 2 question at hand.. id say given the 2 choices, go 4 the swift.. its better in every single aspect.. the only thing i could find good bout the peugeot is that it has a folding hard top.. that too isnt quite an advantage, as someone had pointed b4, this is malaysia.. not the french riviera..

This post has been edited by CooShyRee: Jan 26 2007, 03:38 PM

err.....IMHO....both cars are considered "cool doors" car....meaning resell value is low.

I dun see much of these on the road meaning difficult to get parts from chop shop.

getting new parts might cost you a lot compared to myvi now.

but if you force me to choose.....i'd go with swift....looks nice

Thanks for forumers who giving me opinions!!!!!
I really take all of your opinions in consideration~

and now,206cc is definitely out...as the concern of sparepart ,maintenance ,and the most important,Leakage from the roof? ha ha......that's the most concern~

Actually i put up 206cc as my bf likes it......

and i just like its cool outlook~

Personally I like swift~
i went to showroom and test drive~ It gives me a really good intention to get it~

However,loaning part,it gives me difficulties.~
Low possibility will get through as i still loaning for my current myvi~

SA said it is hard to get this swift loan approve~

Since I can't really provide all those necessary documentations



For myvi~
my problem is water leakage~ at the driver seats....I've claimed for a new carpet,but problem is the sign of leakage still exist~ and my car becomes smelly~

Setting 2 ambipur in my car...still that disgusting smell ....urggg


Second....inspected disc brake has problem....been ordered for 3 months arleady,still not arrived yet~

Braking system~ somehow when i am driving it...i will always wonder,is that my driving skills problem or else? it just difficult for me to brake...which i have to brake from a very far distance...or else, i need to brake emergency~
Until,others been driving my car,tested with their myvi....it seems that mine is working abnormal~

When chaging gear R - D and vice versa....it has duno what sound!!!
that hasn't been inspected yet!!!

Gosh,how many days i need to spend in SC????

I just sick of bring it to SC
then i will have no car to use!


Last time i claimed for my carpet...it spent up 4 days doing it!
End up,i didn't have car to drive~

So now you guys understand my situation uh~?

another suggestion... since u are not sure whether the approval of ur swift's loan.... and u are sick of p2 SC..... try go somewhere more expert.... some really good reputation workshop to help u check the whole car....

ofcoz if ur loan approvel... get the shitty myvi out of ur house

btw get a new car better den a 2ndhand car.... somemore is a 2ndhand conti... anything wrong.. u need to dig ur gold out from ur wallet for repairs and maintain.. somemore no more warranty...

This post has been edited by eng98: Jan 26 2007, 02:32 AM

some really good reputation workshop to help u check the whole car....

he he ...Girls usually will get bullied 1.....
I'd been in one shop,told me that my vios unwanted sound...is caused by TIMING BELT!!!!!
that noob really thought i duno nothing!

den bring some1 along with u?? ur bf or dad??? any1?? just make sure those idiot dun bully u thats it... but if ur car can really fix up... like smell is gone, brake is back to normal, no sound when changing the gear from R to D.... if u think u will keep it...... i think is worth for u to spend the repair money to do up...... try asking somebody around whether any good place to fix myvi??

This post has been edited by eng98: Jan 26 2007, 02:46 AM

If really get rejected from the bank,probably go to fix it after chinese new year...... Exam at the corner~ and so many problems,don't think i can fix all of them in once. Am i right?

The best, as I mention before is to join a car club (preferably the car that you want to buy) and get to know the car from these people first. That's how you do research, talk to people who owns the car not those who doesn't. Personally, I feel that a lot of people here have a lot to say about cars but all they've driven is a Proton or a Perodua. They practically know nuts about a Suzuki or a Peugeot and 'stories' and 'myths' circulate among these people to others who plan to buy a car.

Also, unless you're earning 3K above with epf, etc. I sincerely doubt any bank will offer you a loan for the Suzuki Swift... unless you buy it under your parents name or someone else. As far as I know, the 0% interest for the 1st 2 years is absorb by Lion's Group or something.

This post has been edited by azxel: Jan 26 2007, 08:54 AM

u own myvi and vios?

btw, if u wanna service vios, go to excool sunway, superb workmanship!!!

is next to n1 racing..

hi trojan, i really suggest you try another SC
if one SC can't get the job done, there's no point trying over and over again.
for water leak, changing the carpet won't fix it problem, i believe there is a plug somewhere at the firewall, see if it has drop off.
as for the brakes, does your myvi comes with ABS. check the pedal free play and fluid level

Swift > 206

for the water leaking problem, go to any workshop and then can fix for u. apply some silicon, change rubber.. it won't cost u much. unless there is a hole in the car.

problem with the brake and gear, let other mechanics check it. ask them how much it cost to fix them. if it's ridiculously expensive, then take back to SC.

and as suggest, another SC would be better since the 1 u been visiting can't fix any of your problem.

If its still under maintenance then go faster fix the water leakage lo.

If you are from some rich family, yeah.. getting a brand new car would solve all the hassle and swift would be the best option (from ur list). I would get a Mazda 3 if i were you

HOWEVER, if you are someone like me which would be depending on ur monthly wages to pay for petrol / instalment, I would suggest u to think twice before commiting to a new car. An average fresh graduate would find it difficult to service loan / petrol for a kancil (from my own experience). I am into my 5th year of working life, I find Swift beyond reach and I suppose that applies to many others. Kancil, Myvi.. Swift, Vios.. they are made for the same purpose... only cars

I've pointed this out long time ago. .. malaysians mentally SUX - they are hipocrites - they love selective bashing.


and they're indirectly responsile for the death of R3 time attac which is the only avenue for grassroot motorsport ... if it's a proton having this problem this thread wil become bashing ground.


a 9 month old myvi shouldn't have this problem...the hole on the undercarriage near the pedal due to stamping error existed since first batch myvi since 2005... just send ur car to SC to rectigy it.no point buying new car if the car still can run fine...

I'm into my god knows how many years (since the 90s) and I find the Swift beyond my reach...

U tok like u know alot... but u even said u a swift is out of ur reach, and i dun see ppl are toking nuts about the 206 and swift..... and alot non-proton or non-perodua driver still bash proton car like no tomorow.....


like i said long ago..... FnF not a good place to discuss about a car already, long ago was a good place den sudden come in all the basher from no where.. u can see freshly join member straight come in and bash about the cars they dun like.. even they didn't own them..... even a mod is also the same.... he told me is a fact and say i cannot accept it coz i'm driving 1.. but the fact is he dun own that car and know nut about that car.....

This post has been edited by eng98: Jan 26 2007, 02:41 PM

If your bf likes the 206 so much, then get him to buy it himself.
Go for the Swift yourself, if loan is ok.

which Service Center u went to anyway...?
1st, water leakage? beside the door or under pedals? izzit air-con water dripping?
2nd, disc brake need to check the brake pads adjusment? any brake fuids missing?
3rd, braking system = ABS problem, the technical adjusment asap...
4th, auto gear? no idea yet... i drive manual...

I.G Enterprise Sdn Bhd, Lot 3278 Jalan Genting Kelang
previous i also had some problems with my disc brake pad, got funny smell so i went to the nearest Service Agent got it fixed by 15minutes...

i agree totally dude.. fnf is not civilize place 2 talk bout or get advice on cars.. coz all we get here r a bunch of skyline gtr n evo wannabee noobs!! they juz join yesterday, n then straight away bash like nobodys business, this is no lie as im sure many of u guys have seen members like this b4 too.. ive even encountered some whos commenting on cars like hes jeremy clarkson, but yet cant drive n dont even possess a driving license!! hahahahaha.. this is the type of people who spoils fnf..

btw, back 2 topic at hand.. TS, i think agree wit some of us here in saying that its a waste 2 get a new car.. juz go find another SC or find a reliable outside mechanic.. surely ur dad or bf or relatives have a regular workshop that they go to..

btw hypermount, good post!! i always like reading ur posts

This post has been edited by CooShyRee: Jan 26 2007, 03:46 PM

Yea, I know nuts about cars or the Swift.

I know for a fact about the problems I posted about the Swift because I was planning on buying a car. How do I know? Because I browse auto clubs forums for info by reading Peugeot, Citroen, Alfa Romeo, Nissan and Suzuki Club Forums for sometime as part of research. Thats what I got out from owners of these cars. I personally drive a Suzuki Grand Vitara. What about you?

Why do you see people bashing local cars so much? Perhaps, you shouldn't limit yourself to one or two source of information. Perhaps, local cars really do suck. Who knows...

haha agree on the topic above, whatever happened to vvip guest, lol my say is , always go for the car u want and u like, no point listening to ur bf or whatsoever, its ur car, u pay for it, u drive it. whats good if ur bf wants u to buy a bomb and make u finance to the maintenance, totally not cool. my only say as an alternative to the 206cc is the toyota mr-s, that should do

i only comment the car which i driven b4 and and i will comment it deeper if 1 of my family own the car..... thats y i normally here will comment on vios, gen2 and waja... later will be some japanese car might be a accord or a camry... and i will comment on the problem which i look at my own eyes.. i dun comment or bash blindly... and about swift and peoguet... both are good car but cannot say great car coz there are cars better den those 2 as well...i dun really believe in car's club forum since i'm didn't see it on my eyes.... so i just read and remind me with whats the common problem if i wanted to buy that cars... but not until believe every car got the same problem like most of the forumer here thinks all gen2 have the same problem.... i guess u shouldn't limit urself to think all the proton car has the same issue too beside the material is lower den others.. this we all know is a fact....and ofcoz i driving a gen2 and i'm happy with it... going strong 2 years without power windows problem, door handle problem and etc etc (touchwood).... fyi mine is 2004 model which u can hear alot ppl say 2005 batch above has the less problem.... if u think my word offended u den i'm sorry just to say out the facts that i believe in a more fair mind.....

p/s: to TS.. sorry for all the OT sorry yah

On the other hand...

TS... stay focus on ur near the corner exam 1st...

All the best

i say if choose between 206 and swift go for swift

but i think u might wanna try to look at 2nd hand jazz i think they are better than swift

Once again,thanks for all of yours' opinions!!!
really appreciate them~

My dream comes to a change as loan is not approved....Probably my myvi is still loaning~

Glad we can help.

But i believe since ur myvi is on loan better get another SC to fix ur car, rather than thinking to change to another car. You can get our help with the LYN's myvi owners thread in this section.

emmm then juz get suzuki lar... more better, futermore its brand new

BTW i know u will disapointed, but nowday very taf la loan term, keep laa ur mayvi

This post has been edited by jamik: Jan 29 2007, 04:16 PM