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Sony-Ericsson ~ Sony Ericsson K790i/K800i V5 Discussion Thread ~, A picture paints a thousand words!

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post Jan 31 2007, 09:54 PM

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SE is ranked fourth in the world according to the article in CNET, Nokia is freaking number one again. doh.gif Followed by Moto and Samsung. rclxub.gif Argghhh ...... too bad ...... SE should be at least on par with Nokia, never liked Moto and Samsung phones. doh.gif


QUOTE(Andrewhajime @ Jan 31 2007, 06:27 PM)
i dont think he mean the earphone
i think he is means ur SPEAKER !! , the tiny little power speaker
SE might good sale in M'sia
but around the world , we are not sure bout that

there is a 5 megapixel camera ~~~ just that is nokia , not on SE
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post Feb 1 2007, 01:11 AM

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Well, I prefer HPM-82, with the remote control, can navigate songs and videos much easier. I bought one at RM60 in Penang. I dunno cheap or not lah but since got ready stock, just buy lah.



QUOTE(alienfighter @ Feb 1 2007, 12:33 AM)
no need converter man...
some more, u can used other earphone u wish with that handfree (hpm-70)
the price...u have to ask the toikey... hehehehe
pm him for the best price...
im sure he can give u the best price if u really want to buy that things..
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post Feb 1 2007, 01:29 AM

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Sound is the same as hpm-70, same earphones except for the remote thingy. I think you can get it cheaper in KL, try asking around. There's only three shops selling hpm-82 in Penang but that's the lowest price I managed to nego with the shop.

QUOTE(alienfighter @ Feb 1 2007, 01:26 AM)
rm60 only mehh??..
really cheap..
can buy for me??..
the sound quality same as ur hpm-70??
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post Feb 1 2007, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(am2244 @ Feb 1 2007, 01:56 AM)
anybody use push e-mail here?why maxis dont support k800i..only support p series...very sad lor...
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Push email is not that popular I guess, Maxis didn't promote it anymore after the lukewarm response.

QUOTE(dreamthief @ Feb 1 2007, 01:57 AM)
you probably blind the person you are taking the picture. two flash? wth
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One flash for the person or object that you're taking, the second flash is to frighten the ghost away. brows.gif Yeah, just like PS2's Fatal Frame game, only that we're using K800i instead of a camera. laugh.gif
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post Feb 1 2007, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(dreamthief @ Feb 1 2007, 05:34 PM)
There's a second round review of the available camera phones by GSMArena.

LG KG920 vs. SE K800 vs. Nokia N73: One more photo shootout
http://www.gsmarena.com/kg920_k800_n73_photo-review-125.php

Read it with a pinch of salt. biggrin.gif
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I still prefer SE K800 to any of those phones. rclxms.gif The flash is pretty powerful for dark scenes and it's an added plus.


QUOTE(Red Maniac @ Feb 1 2007, 04:48 PM)
Wahlao... so cheap.  I want one too.  Tell me where to get in KL at this price and cheaper.
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Feb 1 2007, 06:33 PM)
Can u help me to get in penang and post here? So far in KL i scout around and couldnt get at 60. Hmmmm...
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I'm sorry, I don't really know where to get HPM-82 in KL at this price. I know authorised SE dealers are selling it for RM180 and the RM60 I've paid for is exactly the same as the RM180 one. My friend has it so I've compared mine with his and confirmed that it's 100% original. My friend was cursing like mad when I told him about it. The only difference, mine doesn't come with warranty but I can test it on the spot. Packaging is the same, 100% identical, just that one is consider AP I guess. I'm sorry I prefer not to post it to KL, heavy responsibility lah, later got problem, I'll be in hot soup. If you wanna know where I bought it, please go to 'Yeah' handphone accessories shop located on the 3rd floor, in Prangin Mall, Penang. I'll try to ask for you here to see if anyone sells it in LYN. At least you can COD in KL, easier lah. Get what I mean?

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post Feb 2 2007, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(shortleg88 @ Feb 1 2007, 10:57 PM)
think he asking u where u got urs in Penang...quite cheap...
perhaps u can start a bulk and post to KL  blush.gif
i kinda interested also
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I thought I have replied that in my reply, the shop is in Prangin Mall leh ........ dun wan to start bulk lah, takkan KL dun have meh? It's only HPM-82 wor ...... if Penang have, I think KL should have gua and maybe cheaper.


QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Feb 2 2007, 03:40 PM)
same goes to the LCD quality too,

the secondary camera of 903sh is sooooo clear that you can use it as your mirror, unlike those Nokia and SE's front camera...damn noisy
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This phone is not without its flaws, you can read the reviews here, http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=1696 and to be honest, I prefer K800i anytime. The 903sh looked like a matchbox to me. Quite ugly to be honest. doh.gif SE's Z610i pawns it easily. I never liked Sharp handphones, buying a spare battery is a problem and not sure about the availability of the spare parts, it's safer to stick with a popular model, at least you can sure that any tiny little thing can be bought outside. I find the screen for K800i more than acceptable.
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post Feb 2 2007, 09:46 PM

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No offence Bro, it's not that I can't afford it, it's too girlish for my liking but anyway this is a SE K790i / K800i discussion thread, why should we be talking about 903sh, off topic already. doh.gif Well, everyone will read reviews first before we buy something or as a guidance to help us make a better decision, takkan we can go and ask the seller, I try first ya, if I like it, then I buy from you. If we can do that, I wouldn't mind but in the end, we won't be buying anything because all phones have their own flaws. Reading reviews are as important as asking for forumers' feedback too, that's why I have no regrets getting SE K800i because I got the information that I need. Thanks to you guys here, I got what I wanted. thumbup.gif


QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Feb 2 2007, 05:48 PM)
try not to think inside the box by just reading others' review, get both phones, and make your own review by doing side by side comparison.

design wise, i would say, most of them prefer 903sh's design, it's way more cooler than k800's plain candybar, however judging a design is kinda subjective as it depends on people's perception thus i wouldn't wanna argue much on it
perhaps it's because you never had a chance to own it before smile.gif
I got myself 3x of 903sh(Black Limited Edition), each set comes with 3x extra battery and i got alot more other accs e.g. desktop charger, silicon housing etc. It depends on whether you know or not how to get em.
Well, obviously that shows that you are easily satisfied smile.gif
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post Feb 3 2007, 03:24 AM

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Seems like HPM-82 is making waves here despite having the same earphones as HPM-70. I've sold my HPM-70 away to an unsuspecting buyer willing to pay RM85 for it. brows.gif I guess he thought that it was a bargain to buy it at RM85 when the authorised SE dealers in Penang are selling them at RM180 if I'm not mistaken. Not my fault lah, he's willing to offer RM85, then I accept the deal lor. Willing buyer, willing seller so case close. icon_idea.gif After that, I bought the HPM-82 at RM60, I still have a profit of RM25. How nice if I could find more buyers like him. I'll be rich. rclxms.gif

I'm planning to use the HPM-82 with my Sennheiser CX300 earphones, should be arriving pretty soon according to Jenssen. rclxm9.gif I have tried my friend's CX300 on my K800i, not only the sound is better, it's even slightly louder too, a big leap from the Sony earphones. I guess I can temporarily let my sister use my iPod. nod.gif Come to think of it, I rather buy another K800i than an iPod laugh.gif


QUOTE(europology @ Feb 3 2007, 02:34 AM)
it's absolutely normal. smile.gif


Added on February 3, 2007, 2:40 ami oso want a HPM-82!!! drool.gif
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post Feb 3 2007, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(doomx @ Feb 3 2007, 07:30 AM)
thanks viking and the rest. i thought that is a problem with my phone. phew, im relieved  biggrin.gif . anyway,i ask my friend to find "Yeah" handphone shop at prigin mall,it seems that he cant find it.. anybody got any ideas? maybe the shop shift place already?  tongue.gif . i want a hpm-82!  sad.gif

by the way,last night i think my inbox was full because i realise that a few of my msgs that my friend send wasnt save.. strangely they didnt ask me to delete the inbox or send msgs because my phone msg was full. new feature?  doh.gif . they just straight delete the msgs that my friend send after i reply it.. hmm... anybody having the same experience?
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Got lah, the shop is there, I always go to Prangin Mall one leh, it's located in between Antrium A and Antrium B. You won't miss it, should be on the 3rd floor. There's only one HPM-82 left, I've bought another one for my sister so it's all yours. So, do hurry. rclxms.gif Not sure whether they'll be bringing in more stocks later. hmm.gif


QUOTE(cupz @ Feb 3 2007, 10:03 AM)
omg.... i want the earphone. TT.TT
sure is rm60 ?
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Yup, RM60 ......... they put the price tag as RM80 so I went to nego with them until RM60. The pretty girl in the shop is the boss, the one wearing more sexy and got a thick coat of ICI paint on her face. tongue.gif
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post Feb 3 2007, 11:54 AM

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Nah, we just want 16.7 million true colours TFT screen like Nokia N95, 6300 for a start. rclxm9.gif Screen size is not an issue if we want a small and light handphone. If you want a big screen, then get a Nokia Communicator then, it's big enough to view a Word document nicely. smile.gif


QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Feb 3 2007, 11:34 AM)
so what do u want? a plasma lcd in mobile? dun tell me u will satisfy with the small screen  doh.gif
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post Feb 3 2007, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(@nn@nn @ Feb 3 2007, 01:40 PM)
erm..wats the difference between M2 sony and sandisk? k800i using which one ar?

getting one soon!! wee!!! my k700i is getting faulty at last!!
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Like that also can, ar? It's not a good thing wor, if it's not faulty, at least you could sell it for a few hundred ringgit and top up the rest for a K800i. It's hard to sell faulty phones here. sweat.gif


QUOTE(claxxion @ Feb 3 2007, 07:02 PM)
Finally i just sent in my k800i in for warranty, and the staff at ericserve were nice and polite. rclxms.gif

And went to lowyat too, grabbed a 1Gb Sony M2 for RM189. I guess its a good deal, now waiting for my phone back to sumbat more stuff in it. laugh.gif
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Wah, the price went down again? Luckily I didn't buy it, guess I should wait till it drops further so that it is as cheap as a MSPD. M2 is revolutionary but it's too expensive, just curious to know if our K800i is able to support up to 4GB in the future via firmware upgrades.


QUOTE(youngkies @ Feb 3 2007, 08:02 PM)
yes it is normal..

annoying isnt it.. takes abt few seconds just to fully load the pic..
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I get what you mean, it's a bit sluggish but a K800i doesn't have a built in ARM processor or even ram either so it can't be help.
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post Feb 4 2007, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(doomx @ Feb 3 2007, 10:55 PM)
by the way,last night i think my inbox was full because i realise that a few of my msgs that my friend send wasnt save.. strangely they didnt ask me to delete the inbox or send msgs because my phone msg was full. new feature? doh.gif . they just straight delete the msgs that my friend send after i reply it.. hmm... anybody having the same experience?

this was my 2nd problem that hasnt been answer,sorry had to double post the question =/
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I think the inbox thingy is not related to the phone, should be limited by the capacity of your sim card.


QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Feb 4 2007, 12:41 AM)
If at all 2GB M2 is available, does the latest firmware actually support 2GB M2? It's because I read somewhere in the technical spec saying that it supports up to 1GB only
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Well, the answer is a big yes, http://it.moldova.org/stiri/eng/23258/ and M2 is only designed to be used in Sony Ericsson mobile phones so it is definitely compatible, even if it is not, it can be fixed by upgrading the firmware. Same like my Nikon digi camera, was supposed to support up to 2GB SD card but after upgrading the firmware, it could detect the 4GB SD card easily. I'm sure Sony will ensure that their phones are compatible with their memory cards. To be frank, I would prefer a 2GB card anytime provided if the price is reasonable.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 4 2007, 04:30 AM)
where can compare, one is specialised.

for my K800, i just set a specific EQ which works well across most music, cos the default EQ and all obviously sux.
the setting even sounds decent enough thru the cheap 2.1 sonic gear tatoo 303 which is more for nighttime going to bed listening, so sound quality doesnt have to be that great.

now if only SE would release a phone with a 20-band EQ, i will do magic on it tongue.gif
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The EQ is rather limited for K800i but with careful tweaking, it will sound slightly better that the present settings.


QUOTE(alienfighter @ Feb 4 2007, 05:41 PM)
yes...its all 16bars...
i do love high in bass... but the sound still cannot same as megabass..
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The megabass is a bit boomy for my taste but the W series has more EQ settings for us to fiddle with. If you get a good pair of earphones, you would wanna leave the megabass option off. I'm waiting for my CX300 earphones to do a test drive on my K800i. Should be getting it soon.
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QUOTE(alienfighter @ Feb 5 2007, 12:45 PM)
im am sure that k750i it louder than k800i..
my bro using it now...
the speakerphone also par behind with k750i
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Even K610i and K618i's speakerphone is a slightly louder than K800i but of course, K800i's speakerphone sounded less hollow than the other two. Well, for video calls, the speakerphone is way too soft so I normally use my bluetooth headset or my earphones instead.


QUOTE(bleachzrockz @ Feb 5 2007, 04:33 PM)
my area sells K800I for RM1599 (ori) and RM 1250(AP),izit expensive??is it true dat the price would drop after cny??many thx
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Well, the price probably gone up because of CNY, The cheapest one around is RM1570 but of course, after CNY, you could get it a lot cheaper, if you're not in urgent need of a phone, then you could probably postpone your plans of buying it first.

QUOTE(arif @ Feb 5 2007, 09:46 PM)
how much are they going to charge?? sweat.gif
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The service centre will probably charge RM50 to RM100 for it but honestly, my friends have updated their K800i (AP) via the web and it worked for them. IMHO, you can update the firmware by yourself, it's not that complicated.
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QUOTE(doomx @ Feb 7 2007, 11:35 AM)
hmm,i wanna ask something,anybody uses hpm-82 for their k800? i am planning to buy one but i have no idea where to buy and what is the price. can someone tell me? thank u!
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Honestly, it's just the same as hpm-70 except for the remote, it's longer by 2 inches in length. Other than that the sound quality is the same, I've heard reviews that SE has solved the background pickup noise with hpm-82's mic, I dunno how true is this because I never had a chance to compare since I've sold my hpm-70 for this one.


QUOTE(tifosi @ Feb 7 2007, 12:18 PM)
Added you rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif
Clareen is selling it at 80 plus i think. PM her and see.

Edit : sunauto got it for 60 from penang. Cheapest in KL i see is 80 plus.
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The good news is there are at least 6 units left for sale from the shop where I got them. Three of my friends just bought it last Sunday. They're also doing a promo for the MPS-60 speakers at RM78 for the black or white coloured ones, I've tested them but wasn't too impressed with the sound so I didn't buy it. The actual price is 80 plus, they're selling at this price because CNY promotion. Those Sony Gallery showrooms can get them for you at RM180. sweat.gif It's the same thing actually, the RM180 comes with 1 year warranty while the OEM ones don't come with warranty. If you want to view the RM180 ones, go to Northern Point Sony Ericsson shop, just next to Osim on the ground floor in Prangin Mall, Penang. They have a few RM180 ones on display.


QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 7 2007, 07:21 PM)
the k810 only very minimal changes, mostly in design.
plus it doesnt come in black tongue.gif

but guess this is what SE is trying to do to catch up in the mobile phone market.
if they cant beat nokia, then join them in releasing phone and after phone with minimal changes every 3 months tongue.gif
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Nokia is always on the number one spot as they have the most models released ever in a year and their handphones appeal to every market segment. SE on the other hand, has limited models, if you own a K800i, I don't think you wanna buy a W series handphone just for the megabass because in actual fact, if you use a pair of high quality earphones to partner with your K800i, it will sound much better with more punch. Of course, I do hope SE will come out with more interesting models, hopefully one that can take on Nokia N95. Some competition is healthy here.
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QUOTE(killerfly @ Feb 7 2007, 11:44 PM)
my phone is also lagging... geez..  shakehead.gif
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Try clearing all your unwanted sms and mms. Move unwanted files from your phone memory to your M2, try to have at least 30mb of free space in your phone memory. See if it helps. My K800i doesn't lag at all.
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Nope, no lagging in the animation part. The phone memory is also like a ram to the phone. Try to free up some space in your phone memory. No harm trying, right?

QUOTE(doomx @ Feb 8 2007, 01:24 PM)
no i mean lag in the animation  sad.gif . does yr animation lag like the one posted by tifosi?... i wonder what could be wrong. im on the R1ED001 software. tifosi mind telling yr friend i using what firmware? thanks alot. hope can solve this problem
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Hmm .......... just wondering whether this is the real SE K850i with the much talked about 5 megapixel camera. hmm.gif Looked kinda cool to me. Hopefully the picture is the real thing. sweat.gif

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Or is this the new SE K850i, with the unconfirmed specs below. Hmm ....... very confusing.

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3.2 megapixels autofoucs DC
1.3 megapixels v-call camera
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS
GPRS, EDGE WCDMA
2INCH QVGA (240x320 pixel), 16 million TFT
Nvidia GoForce 4800 3D graphic chip
466 MB internal memory
MemoryStick Duo Pro support
BT 2.0
stereo speaker
A-GPS

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Well, from the rumours, that K850i will be the first Sony Ericsson phone to have a 16 million colour TFT screen and also with a 5 megalpixel camera. The Xenon flash will be maintained. Other sources say that it will have QVGA video@30fps (perhaps better, cif ), 2.2 inch screen and Nvidia Goforce 5500 graphics chip drool.gif The last one is obviously too good to be true but seeing that Sony is using NVIDIA's GPU for their PS3, there's a possibility they have a mobile version. Guess, we'll know more soon. icon_idea.gif
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Nah, you're not a traitor, whether you go for Sharp, SE or Samsung, they all start with 'S' tongue.gif

I guess SE is not resting on their laurels, at least they're making an effort to come out with better models to woo the crowd back.



QUOTE(sE_vIxEn @ Feb 8 2007, 06:10 PM)
can elaborate more why you dun think it's true?!

damn, drooling all over my keyboard already. i am a traitor who went for Sharp den now SE poison me back again. doh.gif
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