my mum put so much hope in usm and refuse to let me apply other uni now...Is the chance for an a level student get into high?
heard from my friend mum said the chance is low and she is a lecture in usm,
'besides is there any private uni which has good reputation for course like:

pharmachy( is this subject more like chem?)
biotech(i know it hard to get a job later but this is my only interest right now)
marine science(Marine Science is a multidisciplinary field of study and research of ocean life and physics. dont understand this)


any good reason to convince my mum because i think my mum is brainwashed by neighbour and relative( )
those relative and neighbour always said like i heard that someone someone son get into usm(really got so many ppl get into usm?)

usm 2016 intake is over now, so I suppose you are going to apply next year? shouldnt choose a level if want to get into usm. I can feel your situation here, been in that situation, just that the dream uni of my mom is not usm. I made a really big mistake because of this so my advice is have a clear vision of what your want if you want to persuade your mom, follow your heart, being a mom she will understand finally. usm usually accept stpm and matircs, a level must be difficult, not sure about the subjects you are asking about, but never heard of any local private reputable with these subjects, perhaps you can try singapore uni like nus or ntu.

This post has been edited by mark_0731: Aug 13 2016, 11:34 PM

yup,my mum said next year sept....
singapore i heard my senior said need 4a* and very fluent english then got chance.
If usm got high chance I am okay with it la but I rarely heard that a-level student get accepted.
How about nottingham or monash university?

Programme outweights the university reputation everytime..

Focus on choosing the course you like.. So.. What do you like?

Degree in Bio from MIT still cannot practice pharmacy.... So focus on the course that you want and start planning.

I am interested in biotech but there is little job chance,now i am thinking of study pharmacy.
What is MIT?

it depends where's your hometown...
perhaps your mom wanna keep an eye on you ?

I assume Manipal?

No idea

This post has been edited by TruboXL: Aug 14 2016, 03:35 PM

A small town in Sarawak,she said want me to save money to buy car in future....plus more my sister just started her uni so got some finance problem but my relative is willing to loan/sponsor me so i think this wouldn't be the reason

matric i know can get but not as hard as a level.I know it is good uni but only worry about my future since my mum only want this uni...
do you know how star scholarship works?

why the link u gave me show all beauty or hair saloon course one?
does msu has good reputation?

This post has been edited by sonyfanzz: Aug 14 2016, 05:30 PM

Well u can visit their campus at shah alam..
See u like or not..

I live in sarawak so it is quite hard to get to there...BTW I search for images of the campus and it look very pretty. Any impression on msu from u?

Pharmacy graduates have issue to get posting; the current waiting time is 6 months. It will be more serious in future as government fails to control the number of graduates from private universities.
I would say it is not a good time to have that. Speaking of going oversea... the license isn't supported by foreign countries.

Oh thanks very much for the information,didn't know about this ...but after the six month waiting time can go pratical no problem right ?
Biotech got little job chance is it ?

No idea if you need to wait longer as the situation is worsening. You might even have problem finding job after graduation as the market is already oversaturated.
Biotech still fine.

I heard that biotech hard to find job that's why I considering pharmacy now.If like this i better stick with my interest

pharmacy is a regulated profession, and you need registration to work, and needs a compulsory 1 year pupilship....the problem is, there are too many pharmacists graduating, and thus not enough pupil jobs....hence waiting list...

biotech is a non-regulated course, is not considered a profession, and hence there is no restriction on where and what type of job you can do.....

It depends on ur luck. I am second year student this coming sem and currently taking the Applied Biology course which mean I can choose my major( Biotech , vector and Parasitology, Marine Sc, Environmental sc) on third year. I do have one friend from A-level and another friend from Foundation in Sc at AIMST. If u did appeal , then wait for the appeal result on this end of month.

change major?Is this specific for applied biology course only?
only applied to imu but last minute my mum dont want let me go cause she heard about usm

This post has been edited by sonyfanzz: Aug 16 2016, 06:39 PM

Current pharmacy glut is quite bad. Some 2015 USM grads still not called for interview but batch 2016 already graduated. Maybe you need to check on the current unemployment climate before making ur decision.

My brother went to pharm usm with a levels back in 2012. It's possible.

how about biotech now?s it easy to get a job after graduate?
it is nice to hear that got ppl got into usm using a level result

Biotech can work anywhere since it's not a professional course. But to work in biotech field is tough, Msia doesnt have enough R&D capacity to cater to ALL biotech grads. They usually end up outside their course of study.

But now there are a lot of opportunities in clinical research field. So it depends. If you just want a cushy job 9-5 under aircond without much problem then any degree will do.

For those who dont know what they want to be, I'd suggest taking a gap year. Explore all opportunities. That way you wont end up doing a course you dont like for the next 3 years.

I see,my aunty told me the exact same thing haha.Nutrition graduates usually work in food industry is it?Is the job opportunity high?

I dont know since I'm not in the field.

I think there are a few issues at hand -
1) you dont know what you want to do
2) you dont know whats the job market is like out there
3)your mother wants you to go USM

For other field, why not go talk to someone in that industry.

1.i know i want to do biotech but i scare no job so i am finding alternative way la..I want to study something related to biology cause I really hate physics...
2.yes,how to check the job market?

3.true

i dont know who to talk to leh,i got no relative working in that industry one，almost all my relatives (if educated) are working as teacher

This post has been edited by sonyfanzz: Aug 17 2016, 10:40 AM

You can ask the folks in Jobs & Career section

I thought we don't have much biotech local companies in Msia? Unless you include those jobs like insurance claim agents /med sales rep etc

Agreed.

This is the issue with Msian education. We are not trained to find out what's our own interest. That's why you think the subject you prefer is the profession you're going to choose, which is far from reality... unless you wanna be an academician. But here is a tip: Most MNC do hire physicists to work as engineers. But I've never heard any hospital hires a biotech/biomedician as a Dr.

Thanks ,will check out that section.
I googled and I only found 12 Biotech company in Malaysia ....i am not really into engineering....pharmacy abd medicine are saturated as well ...really dont know what course should I choose now

I know someone who graduated from biotech working in Durex.

rubber

as i said above....biotech is not a regulated profession, and one can find job in almost anywhere....

pharnacy is a regulated profession, and you are restricted by the need to be registered....

there are pros and cons in both.....

i see...my imagination on biotech job is like modify crop or research about gene.
can malaysia graduate work in singapore btw?It seems like singapore has lots of biotech company

Yes, as long as they are willing to employ you...you don't need professional registration, unlike pharmacy....only one msian pharmacy degree is recognised in Singapore...

Teach biology then.

Apply for Bachelor of Education in Biology. (Any IPTA will do juat fine)

My secondary school teacher told me ipta no longer accept student.is this true ?

So what did you get for your a levels?....

I get 4A for my a level

Don't expect to work in biotech when you're done with university. There are close to none relevant jobs in biotech in the country

It simply means, when you graduate, you'll just look for some random job....sales job, office admin job, promoter, credit card agent whatever job that doesn't require any specific degree.

SG? If you are a new graduate out of USM, you will not be able to work in SG unless you get a role that pays you $4k which is almost improbable given that there are NUS grads looking for those roles too.

If interest is still telling you to study biotech....then go ahead but you have been warned.

In Msia, the best roles are still in O&G, followed by banking and finance. In 3-4 years, no one knows how the oil market will be, if you graduate like those who did so in 2011-2012....then you will be lucky, if you just finish a degree in petroleum engineering now.....really kanasai now.

damn....really dont know how ady

What do you want to be when you grow up?

O&G not so interested.... banking that one confirmed I dont like.....
no other roles beside this two?

not engineer(except biotech engineer),businessman or work in bank.
I want a job which is related to biology such as doctor,scientist

Within the Msian context, these are the best jobs for new graduates.

Of course not everybody in Msia study these two courses only, many still do other things. Their trajectories are also different. By that I mean, it took some of them 5 years plus to earn RM5k per mth, while some earns RM11k after 3 years. Some other earns in excess of RM20k on average per month because of investment in financial markets within 4-5 years.

What do you want to be when you grow up?

Then you have your answer....either you do medicine or you go all in to get your PhD in biosciences.

At your stage, it's difficult to say if you would want to do a PhD.........you have not even experienced university yet.....and to spend 10 years in university....may not be for everyone.

any difference between degree or phd later if i come out from uni？If got phd can get a job related to bio but degree cant?

Nope.....

When it comes to the market in general, a degree is the same as a PhD.

If you are talking about a research position in industry, then a PhD is required but these roles are non-existent in Msia. Even in SG they are rare. You will need to go to developed countries for these roles. They are usually R&D positions of corporations which means, they do not operate in Msia or any emerging economies.

No a*?

yup...lost focus last minute+not smart enough for a*

if I get a phd then i can find a job in usa uk etc?

Yes and no. At this stage, I say with confidence No. It's a long shot.

This post has been edited by feynman: Aug 23 2016, 06:01 PM

............
so worry about my future now.How about food and nutrition degree?should have a lot of job oppurtunity since a lot of food kilang here right?

Then you will really end up nowhere.

Dont worry too much. Just do well in whatever degree that you like.

While doing your degree, build your competency in programming, digital trends and brush up on some financial literary and communication skills. If you have these sort of skills, you'll be prepared for a lot of jobs.

I dont get it,why programming?You mean prepare for other job when I finish university?

If you don't get it then you should start googling why

let me google first,if I still dont know then I ask u again tonight

edit: is it because of bioengineering or genome(too many need use program to assist in research)?

This post has been edited by sonyfanzz: Aug 23 2016, 06:33 PM

There is very little biology in medicine...

more chemistry element in it?I am okay with chemistry as well.Just physics make me felt dumb....

update:got two 100% scholarship for mckl alumni which is from UCSI and KDU.
KDU is not my option since they only offer life science related course for me..
UCSI is famous for their hospitality course (my friend told me),can anyone confirm this?

a sound foundation in all sciences is an essential asset for medical studies....not just biology, or chemistry...

your 4a at a levels will be enough to get into any ipts med school, since the minimum is only a dismally low bbb....but will not get you into ipta, nor singapore...

feynman is telling you to get basic life skills, which is more important than any knowledge you acquire in uni....as the majority of people do NOT use what they learn in uni, when they work....(exception is of course, professional courses)...

What is ipta or ipts ?
I see.i will work on my life skills as well thanks for the advice.


This post has been edited by sonyfanzz: Aug 23 2016, 08:47 PM

bm version for public and private unis...

wa,ipta requirement so high....

no money...my sister now study degree as well...only my mother work.difficulty of low income family u wont know one...

which help list?

then you should not have gone to do a levels....just go form 6 or matrik...and go ipta...just accept any course they throw at you....

i failed to get matrik...A level mckl offer me full scholarship so I go...plus more I hope for JPA to go oversea at beginning but who knows suddenly jpa cancel..... that is my sister and my mum plan...
edit:ipta didnt offer me anything as well

This post has been edited by sonyfanzz: Aug 23 2016, 09:56 PM

with a levels, you can only apply to usm and um....and they take in few outside the mainstream pre-u...the rest of ipta are closed to you...

did you qualify for jpa bursary scholarship?...if not, then the only jpa scholarship is that for the top 10 unis, or critical courses in top 10 (earlier 50) unis...did you apply to ucas for these unis?....you are unlikely to get into these places without at least one a*...

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 23 2016, 10:09 PM

no and no...I didnt know anything before go in a level because I hate study before...
my sister tell me it is easy to get jpa and i trust her...

edit:ucas for those uni is quite easy to kena,a lot of my friends got offer from those uk uni

This post has been edited by sonyfanzz: Aug 23 2016, 10:13 PM

you are referring to jpa scholarship, so you need to get into a times higher education top 10 uni....in the uk that basically means oxbridge and imperial....easy?...lol

my friends got offer from imperial for biochemistry engineering...some got from king college(not sure is top 10 or not)
my sis told me only medicine is hard to get offer from those top uni

spm?I finish spm 2014 ady can i still use those result to apply uni?

ucl and lse used to be in the top 10, not anymore....kings wasn't...

it's not that difficult to get into any course in imperial....but it's very difficult to get into oxbridge...

i don't think you know what you are talking about, it is dangerous to give potentially wrong advises...

I see,so both my friends cannot get jpa(assume if jpa still exist) with those offer?

that is to enter either foundation or diploma courses, from spm....not into degree.

didnt know there is upu before.... so regret now

no more such scholarship...

even when it was offered, they don't always agree to give all applicants...ie, it's not an automatic scholarship...

I see,I always hope of jpa can help me go oversea haha.....

you want to study a diploma course after your a levels?...

My secondary school teacher only tell me matrik,stpm and some teacher scholarship method(forgot what they call it again,after graduate can become teacher one)

This post has been edited by sonyfanzz: Aug 23 2016, 10:44 PM

you would have chosen to enter ipta after spm for a diploma course if you had known?...

that question is to the ts...

few non bumi students choose to go to ipta after spm, as their choices are limited....they cannot do asasi...

yes..never heard of this way b4...
using this way can get degree in ipta easily ?

what is asasi?why few ppl go,i thought this is a good option?

not really,if before a level-yes

it is NOT a degree...please don't mislead...

you don't even know what you want to do now, you are thinking about diploma?....

diploma is for people who knows what they want to do, and is usually a 3 years course after spm....you can work after....of you can then go into a top up programme to continue to a degree in the same field, usually another 2-3 years...

you cannot enter a degree with spm...you need a period of further studies, generally called pre-u....unfortunately in msia, there are multiple pre-u pathways....

stpm, matrik, asasi/foundation, a levels, sam/ausmat, canadian pre-u etc are all pre-u programmes, which allows one to enter a degree programme at uni...

ipta ONLY accept gov pre-u, ie asasi, matrik, stpm....preference in that order....only apex unis usm and um will take in a levels students....

therefore doing a levels basically cuts you off from ipta...

no...finish asasi means you have the potential opportunity to enter a degree programme, that's all...no different from finishing matrik, stpm, a levels...

yes, it's a preparation for a degree programme in uni, but not everybody will qualify....and in any case, ts, whom i believe is a non bumi, is NOT eligible to enter asasi anyway, so no point talking about it.....

so the upu is not applicable for me?this make me felt better

you cannot apply for asasi (which is like the matrik)....but you can apply to enter a diploma course...that is if you know what you want to do to begin with...

yup,I only realise after a-level...felt much better now