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 Niantic BanWave. It's About Time, Niantic starts legal action & perma bans

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post Aug 21 2016, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Aug 21 2016, 04:15 PM)
It was fun during early stage. Prior to lvl 17. Catch those new pokemon. After that no more. Heard android can use joystick that one seem better than snipe since you can walk around and throw ball.
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It still fun to me. Set a date with your team, go out and hunting. Heck, I even saw a lot of spoofer at the places I go and they still go out and hunting. Don't blame the game for not being fun to only start cheating. If you want to cheat, just cheat.

This game is meant for you to explore outside anyway. Most people don't like exploring for a long time, then things get repetitive, sucking out the fun and they said they lost the fun. They join because of the hype and we all know that won't last.

Seriously, this is such a simple game. It gets boring. But nowadays games is not like in the past. We can get updates and patch real quick. Game content can be added and the hype will start again.

Which is why, if you are bored now I suggest you to quit for now and not cheat. Come back when the game have a new content.

If you cheat because its not longer fun, I'm sorry. I only see that as excuses to cheat. You can just cheat without giving out excuses you know.

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post Aug 21 2016, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Aug 20 2016, 11:08 PM)
there are plenty of cheaters. if inside a shopping mall got a gym, and the malls are closed at this hour. how can a person battle it?
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cinema open until what time
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post Aug 21 2016, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Mea Culpa @ Aug 21 2016, 03:18 PM)
Imagine s situation wher cheaters trades with legits.
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this happen even in the gameboy and ds games. a lot of players used gba roms to get earlier pokemon with proper moveset so that you can xfer to the later ones and breed.
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post Aug 21 2016, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(spacelion @ Aug 21 2016, 05:53 PM)
this happen even in the gameboy and ds games. a lot of players used gba roms to get earlier pokemon with proper moveset so that you can xfer to the later ones and breed.
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True.

But in online gaming, they use server generated serial numbers to identify tradeable items.

Doesnt matter where the thing goes, they can track it.

However this process is resource heavy, can only be done when most ppl offline(sleeping).

Items created using modded packets have no serial , its yhe easiest to track. Duplicated items by exploiting server latency in trade window can create items with same serial also traceable, most server have builtin feature to reverse this error.

Those like in pogo "error" is probably 2 trainers trying to catch the same pokemon, "error" so the dont get duplicated.

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post Aug 22 2016, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Nels @ Aug 21 2016, 05:34 PM)
It still fun to me. Set a date with your team, go out and hunting. Heck, I even saw a lot of spoofer at the places I go and they still go out and hunting. Don't blame the game for not being fun to only start cheating. If you want to cheat, just cheat.

This game is meant for you to explore outside anyway. Most people don't like exploring for a long time, then things get repetitive, sucking out the fun and they said they lost the fun. They join because of the hype and we all know that won't last.

Seriously, this is such a simple game. It gets boring. But nowadays games is not like in the past. We can get updates and patch real quick. Game content can be added and the hype will start again.

Which is why, if you are bored now I suggest you to quit for now and not cheat. Come back when the game have a new content.

If you cheat because its not longer fun, I'm sorry. I only see that as excuses to cheat. You can just cheat without giving out excuses you know.
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Yup its still fun cause i don't rush to play it. I still farm, havent evolve my pokemons, havent gym, little rare's so there's still things to do. Just that i'm getting very tired cause have to go out after work, walk alot and stay out for few hours.
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post Aug 22 2016, 11:38 AM

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the guy who decided to the stream live on his pokemon level, he did 600k exp IN DAY on twitch,
and he got banned. lol.
the news.

This post has been edited by fin307: Aug 22 2016, 11:41 AM
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post Aug 22 2016, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(fin307 @ Aug 22 2016, 11:38 AM)
the guy who decided to the stream live on his pokemon level, he did 600k exp IN DAY on twitch,
and he got banned. lol.
the news.
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Softban is not ban lah..

Its a road block Or speed limit. Game dev. can put a limit in anything the wish.
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post Aug 22 2016, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Mea Culpa @ Aug 22 2016, 11:47 AM)
Softban is not ban lah..

Its a road block Or speed limit. Game dev. can put a limit in anything the wish.
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still.
he streamed ALL his journey.
1 day to get 600k exp.
few thousands people watched his stream.
and he got softbanned for 24 hours.

means there's something wrong with Niantic code on softbanning people.
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post Aug 22 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(fin307 @ Aug 22 2016, 11:55 AM)
still.
he streamed ALL his journey.
1 day  to get 600k exp.
few thousands people watched his stream.
and he got softbanned for 24 hours.

means there's something wrong with Niantic code on softbanning people.
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casuals ruined the game.
this game meant for hardcore player.
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post Aug 22 2016, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(fin307 @ Aug 22 2016, 11:38 AM)
the guy who decided to the stream live on his pokemon level, he did 600k exp IN DAY on twitch,
and he got banned. lol.
the news.
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very interesting news.. is there a place here that can replicate his route - 10 pokestop within a small area?

also i have never calculate my xp efficiency like that.. anyone measure their xp-gain-per-hour before?
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post Aug 22 2016, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(fin307 @ Aug 22 2016, 11:55 AM)
still.
he streamed ALL his journey.
1 day  to get 600k exp.
few thousands people watched his stream.
and he got softbanned for 24 hours.

means there's something wrong with Niantic code on softbanning people.
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It was deliberate. The codes were universally applied to all players.

Unless he was sanctioned by Niantic. During events niantic can just remove the limit on certain areas or even implement 5x exp or whatever they wish.
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post Aug 22 2016, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(hongftl @ Aug 22 2016, 12:05 PM)
very interesting news.. is there a place here that can replicate his route - 10 pokestop within a small area?

also i have never calculate my xp efficiency like that.. anyone measure their xp-gain-per-hour before?
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around klcc or midvalley should be able to replicate that.
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post Aug 22 2016, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Mea Culpa @ Aug 22 2016, 12:12 PM)
It was deliberate. The codes were universally applied to all players.

Unless he was sanctioned by Niantic. During events niantic can just remove the limit on certain areas or even implement 5x exp or whatever they wish.
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if it's possible for texas player to get that huge amount of exp. it's possible for TOWN (esp Klcc area) to get that amount as well.
but I understand where you're coming from. to avoid those botters who gain huge amount of xp in an hour.
But like I said, Niantic poorly coded here cause it can't differentiate between human play and machine config.
How do you feel if you invested 200-300 dollars for lucky egg, at the end you got banned by the system because of cheating system .
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post Aug 22 2016, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(fin307 @ Aug 22 2016, 01:35 PM)
if it's possible for texas player to get that huge amount of exp. it's possible for TOWN (esp Klcc area) to get that amount as well.
but I understand where you're coming from. to avoid those botters who gain huge amount of xp in an hour.
But like I said, Niantic poorly coded here cause it can't differentiate between human play and machine config.
How do you feel if you invested 200-300 dollars for lucky egg, at the end you got banned by the system because of cheating system .
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They can. Some procedure requires bigger resources, how big is niantic user base? Very very huge..

Im not niantic analyst. So not so sure why.

This post has been edited by Mea Culpa: Aug 22 2016, 01:43 PM
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post Aug 22 2016, 01:59 PM

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kesian the power leveling legit player , kena ban because gain too much xp in one day..
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QUOTE(hongftl @ Aug 22 2016, 12:05 PM)
very interesting news.. is there a place here that can replicate his route - 10 pokestop within a small area?

also i have never calculate my xp efficiency like that.. anyone measure their xp-gain-per-hour before?
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I think some shopping mall here no problem. Air cond some more. No need to worry about rain. Maybe a good idea for charity and if can get sponsor.

The news from Kotaku not that accurate, Jimmy hit the softban around 14.5hr mark. Brent continued on until dunno when. Then rain started. Etc... Brent is the guy who's doing the streaming.
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Aug 22 2016, 01:59 PM)
kesian the power leveling legit player , kena ban because gain too much xp in one day..
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May be niantic never have thought there are hardcore outdoor gamers.

For mmo ive seen accounts running non-stop 3 days, cpuld be many players taking turns tho.

But is different since you dont have to move further from pc.

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QUOTE(fin307 @ Aug 22 2016, 01:35 PM)
if it's possible for texas player to get that huge amount of exp. it's possible for TOWN (esp Klcc area) to get that amount as well.
but I understand where you're coming from. to avoid those botters who gain huge amount of xp in an hour.
But like I said, Niantic poorly coded here cause it can't differentiate between human play and machine config.
How do you feel if you invested 200-300 dollars for lucky egg, at the end you got banned by the system because of cheating system .
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I don't think they will permaban someone that spend that much on coins/lucky egg.

Those who spend a lot are less likely to be permaban. Who would spend so much to risk getting banned.

I believe the biggest criteria are probably those who teleports or fixed movements which collects lots of
points/exp over a very long period of time.
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post Aug 22 2016, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(kalliban @ Aug 22 2016, 03:30 PM)
I hope niantic implement are u human when they detect 24 hour countinius play to verify its human...if it dun answer means bot perban terus!
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i believe later bot dev can overcome that.
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post Aug 22 2016, 04:56 PM

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The thing with pokemon go is you cant see other players else spotting ingame cheaters will be darn easy.

But allowing others to see is also a problem worse security problem actually, since its a real location not virtual location.

During my past days .. If i see botter/cheater in game i teleport him into the walls, biggrin.gif then disable him from respawning else where.

This post has been edited by Mea Culpa: Aug 22 2016, 05:00 PM

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