I heard is about 5k bookings la, so 40k is confirmed kencing lol

This is very interesting lol

Lousy rate (compared to Kuwait) sure fast fast lo

Argh manual not available at COSE today, and need to postpone next week.

Where you test driven the manual bro? Really eager to try it wei lol

poor man no choice punya lo

not decided yet. may not get it in the end; regardless still good to try it out and have a conclusion of the manual persona.
saga not interested, 1.3 while persona 1.6

b segment persona is already cramped as it is, i can't imagine saga lol

nah don't want another inspira. want to try something else

actually... well aside from me not being able to afford it la, there's been quite a number of negativity popping up particularly on its performance/track etc

granted, it is a very very fun car, albeit quite ahead in technology (double edged sword)

that's *ALMOST* how i crashed my inspira.

seeing my dream car doing it... welp lol

him? nah he didnt msg me, someone else beat him to it

wa that facebook, open 24 hours lol

much thanks bro! i'll call them up!

=edit=
ok i just called, and holy shit got someone picked up lol

i'll be going to test drive later

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 11 2016, 10:40 AM

One of the best ways to run in the car and that's what I did on my late inspira when it was new as well

Still pending on my short write up on the manual since the drive I had on Sunday, will get to it asap as I'm quite packed with work and recent updates on blizzard games lol

I've quit wow a long time already

Trust Proton marketing to do sales even if their lives dependant on it.

nice insights! bro
https://www.docdroid.net/sJmX0E1/persona-20...df.html#page=63 rofl (from experience) from persona manual picture 6 XD

take note owners:
https://www.docdroid.net/sJmX0E1/persona-20...f.html#page=181
xw30 viscosity specified and con9lan7firm proton will use thicker xw40; in fact, your free syntium 800 is xw40

eh didn't get your Genting run review

- from my test rides, there are dashboard rattles when i accelerate the car hard/fly through road bumps without stopping (definitely not how most people should be driving but hey! )

- throttle response is ok for me since i was used to my inspira (lancer) DBW throttle lag.
i remembered the BLM being DBW as well so it was weird you experienced more throttle lag in the newer persona which i find it fine. i also driven the manual BLM before and from my vague memories/experience the persona throttle response definitely beats the BLM.

and what is CLEARLY beats the BLM manual is the shifting gates/h pattern.
the BLM aichi kikai 5 speed manual shift gating is EXTREMELY HORRIBLE imho.

persona (and iinm BLM also? FL/FLX is definitely DBW) is 100% DBW aka electronic accelerator pedal.

- eco "mode" is ONLY an indicator. it is NOT a mode by any means. it just lets you know you're driving sensibly that's all

shifting especially the gating is awesome!

i mean, look here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getrag
they can't go wrong with so many of those brands under their belt

the dealer i went for test drive (Atiara otomobil) will show you (and give you copies of it when you're an owner) your service schedule/items you get for said service and how they cost.
basically for manual, the savings is about 2.4-2.6k ish while the CVT is about 200 more from the slightly more expensive gear oil.

timing belt won't be covered since proton timing belt schedule is 100k km and chances are they will reject you for replacing it earlier as they have already laid out the free service entitlement.

no point. your own foot is the best controller.

pedal actuator only.

yea i've heard of this issue in the saga/iriz community iinm.
glad that it is resolved.

this pretty much.
i believe the manual does point out the failsafe method to deal with battery run out

nice bro, my first car (inspira, it's dead now though, in just 2+ years of ownership.) was 27 years old XD

city need to top up about 40k. for the poor, NOPE!

yeap i faced dashboard rattles as mentioned earlier.

the free service engine oil should be syntium 800 which is semi synthetic which should fit the 10k km interval.
if your SC is using other lubricant/advising other wise (5k km), go complain/fuck them

refer:
http://www.mymesra.com.my/Passenger_Car_Mo...800_10W-40.aspx
(side note, still not the correct spec for proton, i'd top up for syntium 3000 xw30 )

tldr: your SC kencing you, fuck them.

only premium and the body kit version get good year.
the rest all silverstone

yeap, should be no hidden charges. if the sc offer you something so you have to pay, reject.

it already is semi, not mineral.

unless long downhill slopes (there's a few highways, LEKAS comes to mind), it'll be hard with the gear ratios and of course 1.6 NA
furthermore, the manual rated it for 175 so anything above is considered good already

very possible despite the proton badge and shitty silverstones.
test drive to believe

- have to refer/calculate gear ratios lo haha

- personally no issue with the throttle delay considering my experience on the manual inspira or even manual satria neo that ive had the privilege to drive in Sepang
yes, i would have to go with your thoughts on the stability and quietness of the car masked the feeling of acceleration

- agree on the shift lever, the whole center console was built with the cvt in mind and mind you i already thought the lever was hard to reach in p.
the manual had a saving grace with the knob being taller placed and the gating is really good.

DAMN we prolly test driven the same unit LOL!

they told me i couldn't whack the car when i asked
i still managed to pull a few red line acceleration which i was given a bit of peptalk/explanation that the car's fate haven't been decided (whether showroom/or even god-forbid customer lol)

ok my final ish post over the persona thread(s) since i just simply can't sensibly afford a car for the time being until next year/2 years or so later
and as promised, my short review over the MT persona as i was only to test drive it briefly (10-20minutes? can't remember) on a short stretch of heavy traffic LDP/PJ housing area roads and being told i couldn't whack the car as i want
Also, it'll be roughly based/follow up of my previous review: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=81455075

pros:
- that getrag shift gating man... so easy to row through all 5 gears. although something to note, i shift it easier being aggressive compared to slowly/smoothly shifting it. i wonder if it had anything to do with it being getrag/european/conti based
- power delivery and torque with the manual is waaaaayyy better than the crappy CVT lol
- rev matching this baby is very easy, if i may say so - much easier than the satria neo/saga blm/saga flx maybe due to the easier synchronizers and/or the campro VVT
- notchy shift engagements! almost as if it is a short shifter. heck, if you remove the knob and shift it as it is, it will give off the impression of it being sporty/short shifter (yes that was the experience i had when i was just shifting the idle car at the wahyu proton dealer, they had a manual persona however as it is for customer, test driving is disallowed)
- pedal placement between the brakes and accelerator is unexpectedly good! the brake pedal wasn't as high up as the automatic variant! shockingly they leveled it to be almost leveled as the accelerator and that makes rev matching the manual awesome!
if there was anything to complaint (purely personal preference here), it isn't as close as i'd like it to be and aftermarket pedals like my carbon fiber ones https://www.amazon.com/Sparco-Carbon-Fiber-...t/dp/B001SIFPRG will EASILY solve it.
- not sure if placebo, braking modulation seems better with the manual as the pedals are lowered? not sure if that made a difference to be honest.
i do know that many complaint that the braking was not linear and mostly from the cvt/automatic variant and the higher pedal placement could possibly contribute to it.

cons:
- fucking. no. foot. rest.
fine, i get that a lot of small cars (like my kancil 660) doesn't have that, but omg the center console was totally in the way of my foot as well! i kinda have to put my left foot either before the clutch pedal, or underneath it which delays my clutching response :/
to really remedy this, one would need to cut off a part of the center console to allow your foot to rest in it, similar to how i do with the kancil 660 except there's literally no blocking center console rofl.
not too sure if it'll pose a safety hazard in the event of a collision though.
- the notchy feel is gone with the gear knob and as the gear lever is effectively placed higher. Personally, i would find getrag 5MTT200A short shifters while possibly even have shift extenders to place the damn thing closer to my steering wheel.
- yeap, i definitely complain about the signal lever being on the left.
personally, despite me driving like a total asshole on the road at times, i at least do my due diligence in giving out my turn signals to tell everyone "hey i am swerving in this direction, watch out"
on the new persona, i just do a quick wiper wipe
definitely could take a lot of time getting use to it.
- that fucking family/mainstream car gear ratio.
it shared similar/same fate as my late inspira, having shitty tall 1st/2nd gears and 3rd/4th that are seemingly "the same" while 5th is just worthless overdrive.
i mean, i hate it on my inspira especially when going uphill be it uluyam/batang kali or karak, and particularly in sepang.
and the persona seemed worse:

vs
Ratio
F5MBB-1-BBY | W5MBB
1st - 3.538
2nd - 1.913
3rd - 1.333
4th - 1.028
5th - 0.820
Rev - 3.583

FD - 4.235
http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/lancer_x/onl...20165800ENG.HTM
http://lynspira.blogspot.my/2014/05/manual...-4b11-4b12.html
though all in all, the persona IS a family sedan/mainstream car, so this again is more on a personal issue or my own over expectation of the getrag gearbox which led to this disappointment.

in the end, the persona manual is still a damn tempting car and all the cons i mentioned below can be worked around/fixed anyways excluding the gear ratio part (which probably could still be fix if you have load of cash to do a gearbox swap, lol)

my personal decision to forego this persona is mainly:
- i am looking for a car that i can truly have fun with
- it is a sedan and i complained about a sedan in sepang as i had experience driving a hatch (satria neo) which was much easier to corner around.
albeit, there are MANY fast sedans in sepang, but they all had way higher horsepower/better handling so that's that.
- my own finance situation. i KNOW for a fact i'll be dumping mad cash on my car even if it's a proton (experienced from my inspira) and i'm sure as hell know it won't be that much different in the persona, albeit i expect the persona to be much cheaper than my late inspira.
- i already have a sportbike and compared together, a bike will ALWAYS beat the car when it comes to money/spending. your trade off is risk of your own-self which i have also experienced suffered a broken spine resulting in permanent titanium implants on them, cheating death yet again, lol.

Many (like myself) non owners la