What's your rpm at for you to consider the engine to be loud? For me its beyond 4k as mentioned and under that it was fairly tame/softer as the rpm goes lower.

Its no Inspira quiet that's for sure, however on contrast the mivec roar was actually louder than the Persona around /beyond 6k rpm (you can easily drag a manual to Rev cut anyways as shown on my track videos)

At the very least, Iriz 1.3 CVT i tested was louder than the Persona, not sure if there are changes /improvements done though it should be if it's really quieter and the chassis are the same.

i definitely agree on the city, although vios i would assume you refer to the older versions as the new ones have too many complaints about them that put them being worse than beruktua
then again, maybe the expectations on the newer vios (mostly being younger generation folks) are much higher than before, who knows.

that's generally where i was coming from compared to my experience on the Iriz

good insights on mr ogawa btw
lol further on bolded

Well i got a call that the Taman Wahyu proton show room have a manual Persona available. HOWEVER it is not for test drive, only can go in sit sit je.

As i had a detour for a supposedly visit to the palace of the golden horses which at last minute got canceled/re-scheduled (or more like sticking back to original schedule), had to spend over an hour on traffic and passing by jalan kucing/ipoh that will surely pass by that show room as well anyways - might as well go look-see and to my surprise the show room is open at almost 9pm LOL!

well the normal operating hour is only until 8pm, however there are customer booked a rather late time slot so there's one SA (Zamani, good chap, commendable for his services )accommodating them.

so i gave a tour to my sister (who was accompanying me since we are car pooling for the time being as i couldn't ride to work for now) and she was quite impressed with how different the new Persona is. Unfortunately we didn't request for a test drive since it's way past the SA's working hours and it would be rather inconvenient to him haha.

Now back to main "topic" of the manual variant:

- gear knob is removed to prevent theft, problem is the SA didn't know where it was being safe kept so... yea i had to play around the shifter without a gear knob attached to it LOL

- shift gating is ALMOST PERFECT for a family sedan, almost similar to a sporty feel WRX STI short throw shift gate that i experienced way back then my visit to motor image. (also without shift knob, and yes imagine shifting a short throw without a knob duh lol) yes it is NOT a short throw shift box and it is NOT a sports car, however given what it is meant for and the crisp shifting feel i get, albeit it is stationary and not on the road while driving (that's where the synchros would come fuck you up lol!) i am fairly satisfied with it.

- to my utmost surprise, the brake pedal is ACTUALLY LEVELED with the accelerator pedal! trying out rev matching foot work with the Persona R was a VERY pleasant experience compared to when i was trying it on the CVT variant.
The accelerator pedal however no changes from the CVT, and with the "on/off nature" i felt during the test drive, it would definitely take some effort/time to get used to rev matching the Persona i'd reckon/assume.

- lastly, NOT surprising AT ALL, THERE IS NO FOOT REST FOR THE MANUAL HAHAHAHAHA
no seriously, even my (or rather my sis's) kancil 660 has it

if i were to actually own it, prolly going to just whack a whole on the center console so my foot can crawl in tidor

you booked a car without test driving?

for what it's worth, the cvt knob is only really far out on p/reverse position.
the manual shift stick over all seems fine, even without the shift knob installed lol

a "bit" far on gear 1 though if anything.

used to my iswara 3at so it really felt at home and didn't realize...
and since the 3at was like... around or way before 1990's... yea pretty old school now that you think about it

i think was white or silver, can't remember (night time anyways)

bro, i got news that COSE got manual available for test drive, jom this Saturday?

i'll need to make a call before heading over to confirm if it is available on that day itself, as availability is very low and it might be transported to other dealer on rotation basis and what not. (or possibly even car wash/service/whatever else)

Learn something new today!

old manual car, SA don't want to take risk. besides, selling yourself would yield better pricing, just need some effort.

wait for preve face lift lo
or proton's new engine. no rush right?

my guess is a suspension/wheel/tire fault that they need to rectify as i did not experience pedal vibration at all.

good light weight rims in the 1.5-2k ish for 16"

While Perodua should be no relation (at least not direct? Iinm anyways) with UMW, got few staff, insider information anyways, from 6months bonus now become 2 months.

Toyota's sales has been on a down trend for the past few years, people are opening their eyes finally

Considering current market and car being proton with low price /Bank profit, that's a damn good rate.

Banks getting desperate? Lol

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Oh ya, how many years loan?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 7 2016, 12:39 PM

Holy shit that's cheap, I was expecting 600+ monthly. you paid heavier down payment instead of just the 10%(~4700)?

I didn't manage to go test drive last Saturday, this Saturday most likely going lol

So long the car is available and nothing else unexpectedly arise, definitely will go test drive it

So you whacked in over 10k on down-payment?

no wonder the monthly, because 4xx vs 6xx is quite far away on loan

good job btw, at least your monthly/overall maintenance should be a breeze along with the free part/labor offer

Unless you buying expensive car, after market always better lol.

That said, I faintly recalled someone praising the radio/audio system for Persona which surprised me a bit lol (I didn't bother test that, only focus on the drive/handling hehe)

Hmm need to somewhat dig 7k out

Oh my god that's damn good rate wei lol

Monthly calculated how much with 4700 10% dp?

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Just saw, wtf 605 monthly even for 9years lol

Shouldn't that be 490 ish for 9 years? 600+ is 7 years

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 8 2016, 11:31 AM