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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V12!

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post Jan 31 2017, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 31 2017, 12:18 AM)
What's the difference between GTX750TI and GTX1050? hmm.gif Both are below RM500?
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GTX1050 is around 25% faster than GTX750Ti and runs on latest Pascal architecture (lower power consumption, you don't need PCIe power cable), price wise, GTX1050 is slightly more expensive (around RM 570 for the cheapest Palit model) while GTX750Ti is around RM 500.
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post Jan 31 2017, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 31 2017, 09:50 PM)
One last question. Is GTX1050 can support latest games like BF1, Fifa, COD:IW?
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Well GTX750Ti can run them too, it is just the matter of the settings and frame rate that you can get in those games, since it is a low end GPU, I wouldn't recommend running triple A titles on high/ultra settings though, the priority of getting a high and stable frame rate is much higher than graphics settings especially in FPS games like BF1.
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post Jan 31 2017, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 31 2017, 10:00 PM)
Most probably I will use mid settings for gaming. Too high settings/resolutions will make me dizzy.

Many thanks for the info! I guess I will get it from Lazada. hmm.gif

EDIT: Sorry, another question. What's the difference between  PALIT GeForce® GTX 1050 StormX AND ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1050 Mini 2G?

I noticed ZOTAC got mini 2g. Meaning the card is slight smaller in size or? StormX I assume is somewhat their name for the card? hmm.gif
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It is the one of the models of the specific brand.

Palit got StormX (only for low end card), Dual, Jetstream, Super Jetstream model while Zotac got Mini (their famous small and mini series GPU), AMP, AMP Extreme etc, the difference between each model is mostly the design of the card, cooling solution of the card and so forth, the performance difference is negligible (within 1 - 3 FPS difference at most due to different core clock speed).


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QUOTE(haqinian @ Feb 1 2017, 04:16 AM)
Hi. I would like to ask about a build in mind.

Intel Core i3-7100 Kaby-Lake Processor
Asus H110M-K Motherboard
G.Skill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133mhz
WD Blue 1TB
Superflower Leadex Silver 650w
Sapphire Nitro RX 480 4GB
Thermaltake Core V21

Any comments on this build? Are all the components compatible with one another? Is there any problem regarding the build? Thank you in advance.
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i5 is highly recommended, you will see CPU bottleneck in some games if you insist to use the i3 with the RX480 which restricts the GPU from performing normally (as in full potential).
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QUOTE(Lynox @ Feb 1 2017, 09:25 AM)
hye. which psu is good for gtx 1060 6gb amp or msi gtx 1060 6gt oc?

my list ;

aerocool kcas 500w
corsair vs450w
fsp hexa 550w

my spec is ;

i5 6500
h110m-k
8gb ram
120gb ssd
1tb hdd
gpu stated above
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All of them are low end PSU, I'll pick FSP Hexa+ 550W in this case, Corsair VS has slightly better quality than the others though.
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QUOTE(Lynox @ Feb 1 2017, 10:10 AM)
okay then. oh, 1 more thing.

seagate barracuda 1tb or wd blue 1tb? which is better? some ppl said all based on luck. some hate sg, some hate wd.  hmm.gif
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WD seems to have released 5400 RPM version of WD Blue 1TB which is marginally slower than 7200 RPM HDD, avoid it at all cost if you don't want to have a turtle drive, 7200 RPM WD Blue 1TB is fine.

If you are comparing both drive at similar speed (7200 RPM) then either one is fine to me, they are equally famous and I will pick the one which is cheaper and yes, hopefully your luck ain't bad at all, some can last for many years but some only able to last for few months sweat.gif


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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Feb 1 2017, 12:18 PM)
It's not that new, WD released the 1TB 5.4k rpm version months ago supposedly, when I tried to add another WD 1TB to my pc (around December). I see people buying since October - November.
The differences can be noticed easily, which is the code: 7.2k ends with EZEX while 5.4k ends with EZRZ.
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Well, WD haven't updated their website yet for months already I suppose? Still stating 7200 RPM is the only version for 1TB laugh.gif

EZEX is WD Blue's codename while WD Green's codename (rebranded to WD Blue 5400 RPM) is EZRZ previously.
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QUOTE(haqinian @ Feb 1 2017, 02:49 PM)
Intel Core i5-7400 Kaby Lake Processor
Asus H110M-K 1151 Motherboard
G.Skill Aegis 8GB 2133Mhz RAM
WD Blue 1TB 7200rpm HDD
FSP Hexa+ 550w PSU
Tecware F3 mATX Case
Sapphire RX 480 4GB or Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini

Made a few changes. What about now?
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The pricing difference between Sapphire RX480 4GB and Zotac GTX1060 3GB is quite big, almost RM 150+, RX470 4GB is a much closer rival (in terms of pricing).
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QUOTE(SeMpUt @ Feb 1 2017, 08:28 PM)
[B][Budget]
Rm2k (sorry ayam poor)

[Purpose]
Light gaming n movie

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Mouse n keybord

[Monitor resolution]
Full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
cs go, sniper elite

[Personal preferences]
None

[Location]
Keramat
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Save a bit more money, 2k is a bit too tight for any decent low end hardware sweat.gif

Intel Pentium G4560 - RM 249
Asus H110M-K - RM 259 <BIOS update is required to run Kaby Lake CPU>
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Sapphire RX460 2GB GDDR5 - RM 519
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119
ViewSonic VA2246A - RM 375

Total: RM 2164 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(SeNnDoh-7 @ Feb 1 2017, 08:59 PM)
i'm planning to build a power efficient rig but with moderate gaming capabilities. im a casual gamer playing tf1, bf, cod, gta occasionally, with 70% of time spent on gaming, the rest, are more towards productivity thingy. as for graphic quality, i target to get at least above 40fps with medium high-ultra settings, on 1080 resolution..budget is max rm1500 with cpu, gpu, ram, mobo..

below is the hw im thinking of
CPU: Intel Core i3-6100
GPU: MSI nVidia Gtx 970
RAM: Generic 8GB DDR4
Mobo: Asus with H110 chipset
PSU: EVGA 450B Bronze 80+
Casing, keyboard, mouse, monitor all use existing one.

What do you guys think? Good enough to be relevant for at least 4 years? For above rig, i believe can get below the budget specified.

OR...should i wait for zen to come out? i heard rumors saying it is more power efficient than intel?
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So it's 1.5k for CPU, GPU, RAM, mobo and PSU? A bit tight TBH.

i3 6100 - around RM 500
GTX970 - obsoleted? new? used?
8GB DDR4 - around RM 250
H110 - around RM 250
PSU - around RM 250

Total up will be around RM 1250 excluding the GPU, I don't think you are able to find a GTX970 at RM 250 hmm.gif

It is kinda pointless to talk about power efficiency when you are being restricted by your budget, moreover, modern Intel CPU is good enough in this aspect, what you need to focus more is getting a more balance setup, i3 + GTX970 combo is likely to create some CPU bottleneck symptoms in heavy CPU oriented games.

Low cost AMD Ryzen is scheduled to debut much later than the high end Ryzen so that's another lengthy period of wait FYI, we don't even have a confirmed time frame for high end Ryzen CPU launch.

QUOTE(haqinian @ Feb 1 2017, 09:01 PM)
I have quite a poor experience with nvidia drivers. The only reason im considering the 1060 is because of its price. Just would like tio confirm, the H110M-K can support kaby lake processors after a bios update, am i right?
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Yep.
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QUOTE(Lon3Rang3r00 @ Feb 1 2017, 09:42 PM)
Was looking to build an ITX rig, doing ton of planning and i found that i have few missing puzzle pieces. one of it is Silverstone PP08, adapter for SFX PSU to ATX socket. I wonder if any one know or happen to see this part?

I'm going to mount it on Nano-S Case, just thinking of giving some breathing room for the GPU.
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Corsair SFX to ATX adapter bracket is also ok right?
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QUOTE(haqinian @ Feb 2 2017, 10:11 AM)
One more thing, is the fsp hexa+ 550w are good enough to power the whole system?
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Yes too.
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QUOTE(SeMpUt @ Feb 2 2017, 10:32 AM)
Tq masta.
Juz want to ask, intel G4569 is beter than G4400?
Heard that G4400 hv hyper trading
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G4560 is the one with hyperthreading technology and it is newer than G4400 (Skylake vs Kaby Lake).
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QUOTE(NoKusshon @ Feb 2 2017, 01:48 PM)
Hello, can help me recommend best build focus for gaming & editing. Thank you so much, details as below:
[Budget]3500 MAX

[Purpose]Gaming & Editing

[Hardwares that will be re-use]Monitor/Mouse/Keyboard

[Monitor resolution]1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]Civilization & Adobe

[Personal preferences]Shop from Idealtech, Chasis NZXT S340 (White), if want Kaby Lake need topup how much?
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Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 865
Asus H110M-K - RM 279
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 289
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Windforce OC - RM 1385
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 219
NZXT S340 White - RM 335

Total: RM 3569 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

The price of Kaby Lake CPU is exactly the same with Skylake CPU, the only difference is the mobo, if you prefer to use newer chipset (B250/H270/Z270) then you will need to top up at least RM 250+/-.

Downgrade the GTX1060 6GB to 3GB version to keep below 3.5k (if it is really needed). Same goes to SSD, if you need a 120GB SSD, you may consider to downgrade the GPU further to GTX1050Ti 4GB to cater the cost of the SSD.
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QUOTE(NoKusshon @ Feb 2 2017, 06:23 PM)
Thank you for fast respond sifus 😁

If I want to add on SSD how much need to topup and which model? Btw, I will stick with SkyLake.
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The cheapest SSD that I can find at Idealtech is probably Samsung 850 EVO 120GB @ RM 299.

Skylake CPU and Kaby Lake CPU both are having similar price tag, so it is pointless to take Skylake over Kaby Lake, the only difference is the mobo chipset and its price, older chipset (H110/B150/H170) is much cheaper than the latest chipset (B250/H270).

So in this case, I picked the Kaby Lake i5 and pair it with the older LGA1151 socket chipset (H110), BIOS update is required to run Kaby Lake CPU on these older chipset mobo's but Idealtech will do it for you when they assemble the rig for you.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 2 2017, 11:54 PM)
All IT Hypermarket sells Transcend 220S 240GB at RM289. Bought it last month.
If you can squeeze another around RM70, go for i5-7500 for additional 400mhz.
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But the problem is that Idealtech doesn't carry Transcend SSD and Idealtech is one of the requirements sweat.gif

QUOTE(NoKusshon @ Feb 3 2017, 12:02 AM)
Omg, too expensive for SSD hahaha..I will use HDD only then. Oh and thank you for the explanation. Btw, if I want to go for GTX 1070 which model did you recommend? Do I need to change others part to support that GC?
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SSD and DDR4 RAM prices are expected to rise even more this year.

i7 7700 is recommended for GTX1070, i5 will certainly bottleneck the card in some CPU oriented titles, other parts are fine though.
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QUOTE(Lon3Rang3r00 @ Feb 3 2017, 08:42 AM)
Hmmm i'll be going for i5-7600k and GTX 1060 6GB , and get a decent 1080P 144hz monitors~
bye.gif  but with USD so strong now~ i don't think i'll be able to afford it if the price keep raising.

on the other side~~ Ryzen is coming
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144Hz monitor? If I were you, I will probably go for GTX1070 in this case (to pair with the 144Hz monitor) and dump the K CPU idea (since it doesn't provide any significant performance improvements in gaming), GTX1060 can barely output > 100 FPS in triple A titles without any compromise biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(NoKusshon @ Feb 3 2017, 10:24 AM)
Phew ,😅 I will stick with 1060 only then, cant afford i7 + 1070 hahaha..Btw, I will consider the SSD add on if has extra budget. Thank you so much sifus wink.gif
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If you plan to upgrade step by step then getting GTX1070 first is not a bad idea afterall, after you have enough funds then only upgrade the CPU from i5 to i7 (or whatever that suits the most by the time you are ready to upgrade).

Bottleneck only occurs in CPU heavy/oriented games like Watch Dogs 2, Hitman 2016 etc FYI, for other non-CPU demanding titles, you can tune up the settings to almost max on a single 1080p display for eye candy graphics laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Lynox @ Feb 3 2017, 05:23 PM)
actually i'm on tight budget. rm200 max maybe. and i'm gonna stick with that 1060 for a long term.
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It is able to provide 360W max on 12V rails, if your PC is just an ordinary gaming PC without any extra fancy stuffs installed, then it is enough.
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QUOTE(Lynox @ Feb 3 2017, 08:06 PM)
yeah. my spec just i5 6500, 120gb ssd, 1tb hdd, gtx 1060, 8gb ram, stock intel cooler.

so, the best is go vs450 ?
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Well I meant you can actually re-use your current PSU (CM EPP 500W), save the money and invest in a decent PSU in the future when you have more funds straight away is a much better choice.

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