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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V12!

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wongtk
post Aug 20 2016, 04:01 PM

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Thanks bro. Such as what GPU? More than 2gb?
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post Aug 20 2016, 04:49 PM

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Is this allienware rig able to handle AAA games with sacrifices of high setting?
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post Aug 20 2016, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 20 2016, 04:01 PM)
Thanks bro. Such as what GPU? More  than 2gb?
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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 20 2016, 04:49 PM)
Is this allienware rig able to handle AAA games with sacrifices of high setting?
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There are many Alienware rig out there and the "Alienware" tag makes it expensive sweat.gif

Custom build will be more valuable in overall so if you really want to compare a 3k custom build rig and a 3k Alienware rig, the custom build rig will easily beat it.

3k budget can get i5 + RX470 (4GB/8GB) or GTX1060 (6GB) at min top up. GTX760Ti is a very aged OEM GPU, I don't recommend you to spend 3k on this rig anymore since you can get a much better specs by going for custom build path.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 20 2016, 06:01 PM)
There are many Alienware rig out there and the "Alienware" tag makes it expensive  sweat.gif

Custom build will be more valuable in overall so if you really want to compare a 3k custom build rig and a 3k Alienware rig, the custom build rig will easily beat it.

3k budget can get i5 + RX470 (4GB/8GB) or GTX1060 (6GB) at min top up. GTX760Ti is a very aged OEM GPU, I don't recommend you to spend 3k on this rig anymore since you can get a much better specs by going for custom build path.
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Thanks for your advise. I was struggling of getting one "branded" rig since I never have one before. But come to reality and your kind advise has stopped me to pursue this unrealistic rig. I was tempted over the CPU is i7-4790. Also this rig used it less than a year.

Anyway, I will go those custom rig instead instead of branded rig thumbup.gif
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post Aug 20 2016, 08:12 PM

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VX2363MHL vs EW2440ZH pros and cons pls?

anyone can confirm whether those two have glossy or matte surface?
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post Aug 20 2016, 08:51 PM

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Hi , I want to ask what graphic card should I upgrade to replace for my current graphic card.


Budget : RM 500-RM 700

Purpose: Upgrading Graphic Card (Sapphire Radeon HD7770 1GB GDDR5)

Hardware that will be re-use :
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3470 Processor (3rd Gen)
Motherboard: MSI Z77MA-G43
Memory:HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3
Hard Disk Drive: Western Digital 1TB Hard disk Drive
Power Supply Unit: Cooler Master Elite VER.2 Power 550W PSU Power Supply

Games & softwares that use frequently:Mostly Battlefield , Photoshop , AutoCad,Vray , google Skethcup

My Current Screen resolution : 1440x900 but will upgrade it when getting a new graphic card


and also how much can Sapphire Radeon HD7770 1GB GDDR5 be sell for hmm.gif hmm.gif

Thank You smile.gif
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post Aug 20 2016, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 20 2016, 07:49 PM)
Thanks for your advise. I was struggling of getting one "branded" rig since I never have one before. But come to reality and your kind advise has stopped me to pursue this unrealistic rig. I was tempted over the CPU is i7-4790. Also this rig used it less than a year.

Anyway, I will go those custom rig instead instead of branded rig  thumbup.gif
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Well you don't need an i7 when your budget is below 3k since the budget won't be able to fit a super high end GPU that requires an i7 to power it.

Skylake i5 is more suitable for 3k - 4k rig nod.gif

QUOTE(Darksorrow3010 @ Aug 20 2016, 08:12 PM)
VX2363MHL vs EW2440ZH pros and cons pls?

anyone can confirm whether those two have glossy or matte surface?
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IPS vs VA, the difference is obvious but less obvious when comparing IPS vs TN though.

Not sure about screen surface, please check review online.

QUOTE(farisanaa @ Aug 20 2016, 08:51 PM)
Hi , I want to ask what graphic card should I upgrade to replace for my current graphic card.
Budget : RM 500-RM 700

Purpose: Upgrading Graphic Card (Sapphire Radeon HD7770 1GB GDDR5)

Hardware that will be re-use :
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3470 Processor (3rd Gen)
Motherboard: MSI Z77MA-G43
Memory:HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3
Hard Disk Drive: Western Digital 1TB Hard disk Drive
Power Supply Unit: Cooler Master Elite VER.2 Power 550W PSU Power Supply

Games & softwares that use frequently:Mostly Battlefield , Photoshop , AutoCad,Vray , google Skethcup

My Current Screen resolution : 1440x900 but will upgrade it when getting a new graphic card
and also how much can Sapphire Radeon HD7770 1GB GDDR5 be sell for  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Thank You smile.gif
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Probably worth RM 250+/- (more or less), it is equivalent to R7 260/R7 360 (average performance).

RM 700 can get GTX950/RX460, RX460 is slower than GTX950 in overall but comes with 4GB VRAM and runs on Polaris architecture, if you add in the funds that you can get from selling off your current card, then you can get RX470 4GB, it is around RM 900 for PowerColor Red Devil version.
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post Aug 21 2016, 12:04 AM

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Hi Mr @terence_nwb
Could you suggest me a somewhat RM5K ITX 1070 build. No monitors needed atm.

Btw do you know of any ITX cases besides the Bitfenix Prodigy that does horizontal mobo orientation and a window is a plus smile.gif
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post Aug 21 2016, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 20 2016, 11:39 PM)
RM 700 can get GTX950/RX460, RX460 is slower than GTX950 in overall but comes with 4GB VRAM and runs on Polaris architecture, if you add in the funds that you can get from selling off your current card, then you can get RX470 4GB, it is around RM 900 for PowerColor Red Devil version.
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Wow, thanks for the reply and advise ! is there anything else should i upgrade beside that ?
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post Aug 21 2016, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(monkeyjumbo @ Aug 21 2016, 12:04 AM)
Hi Mr @terence_nwb
Could you suggest me a somewhat RM5K ITX 1070 build. No monitors needed atm.

Btw do you know of any ITX cases besides the Bitfenix Prodigy that does horizontal mobo orientation and a window is a plus smile.gif
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Corsair Graphite 380T, Corsair Obsidian 250D.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H170N-WiFi - RM 516
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Asus GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Turbo - RM 2100
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Corsair Graphite 380T - RM 691

Total: RM 5170 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

The above build is using 380T as the casing (reference only, it can be changed to any case you like).

QUOTE(farisanaa @ Aug 21 2016, 02:14 AM)
Wow, thanks for the reply and advise ! is there anything else should i upgrade beside that ?
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Others are fine.

If you want to go for a higher end GPU, then you are advised to change the PSU too, the max power output on 12V rails of your PSU is 384W only according to the specs sheet provided by CM, it is fine for GTX950/RX460/RX470, so just need to bear in mind that it is not a true power 550W and don't over-stress it with lots of power hungry components sweat.gif
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post Aug 21 2016, 06:49 PM

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Anyone has the latest asus motherboard H110 version, does it have the latest graphical type of BIOS instead of the old type?

I need to know whether the video shared memory can be configured in the BIOS. I meant for integrated graphics, not dedicated graphics card.

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post Aug 22 2016, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 18 2016, 11:46 AM)
Cheap rig is always possible with some sacrifices to the components, which indirectly increases the total time needed to finish the task/operation/render etc.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 470
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2558 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Min requirment for Lumion 3D is 6k CPU PassMark points and 2k GPU PassMark points with 2GB VRAM, CPU is fine but GPU is at border line, you can upgrade to GTX960 (4GB) or GTX1060 (6GB) or RX460 (4GB) or RX470 (4GB/8GB) if needed.

SSD can be dropped as well to save money.
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Thanks bro! BUt do you think I can upgrade my existing rig? like changing graphic card and a higher SSD? Photo of my rig is as per above.
Thanks again bro!
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post Aug 22 2016, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(kennethooi91 @ Aug 22 2016, 09:25 AM)
Thanks bro! BUt do you think I can upgrade my existing rig? like changing graphic card and a higher SSD? Photo of my rig is as per above.
Thanks again bro!
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The one with i5 3470? Of course you can, the i5 is still quite competitive, you can throw in an i7 3770 if needed, but I will prioritize the budget for other components first like a new GPU/SSD/PSU etc.




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post Aug 22 2016, 05:23 PM

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Hi Guys,

It has been a long time since i ask here. Last time i was using gtx760, r9 280x and last year r7 380. With so much new card relase like gtx 9series, now 10xx series, amd rx series, i have no idea which one best for my budget. Which is about RM600-RM700.

Wish to play :

- Witcher 3
- Overwatch
- Tomb Raider (2016)
- Far Cry Primal


Thanks in advance. smile.gif

PS:My current Rig as per my sig. Gaming at 1080p.
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post Aug 22 2016, 09:36 PM

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Hi sifu, I am here again asking for advice for my friend who needs a gaming desktop and need to see if I can get an updated build

[Budget] RM4k

[Purpose] For gaming like Evolve, Dragon Nest, StarCraft. Also a little bit of light video editing (Sony Vegas) as well

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Just need the rig itself (with the OS itself as well. which you recommend retail one or the OEM?). Mouse, keyboard and monitor, my friend has it already.

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

[Personal preferences] Would prefer NVIDIA build but I am also open to options of having an AMD build as well

[Location] Kuala Lumpur

Thanks!

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post Aug 22 2016, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Aug 22 2016, 05:23 PM)
Hi Guys,

It has been a long time since i ask here. Last time i was using gtx760, r9 280x and last year r7 380. With so much new card relase like gtx 9series, now 10xx series, amd rx series, i have no idea which one best for my budget. Which is about RM600-RM700.

Wish to play :

- Witcher 3
- Overwatch
- Tomb Raider (2016)
- Far Cry Primal


Thanks in advance.  smile.gif

PS:My current Rig as per my sig. Gaming at 1080p.
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So you sold off your R9 380 already? Your budget cannot get anything that is better than your R9 380.

The best value GPU in terms of price/performance would be GTX950, around RM 600+.

QUOTE(crazydjrock @ Aug 22 2016, 09:36 PM)
Hi sifu, I am here again asking for advice for my friend who needs a gaming desktop and need to see if I can get an updated build

[Budget] RM4k

[Purpose] For gaming like Evolve, Dragon Nest, StarCraft. Also a little bit of light video editing (Sony Vegas) as well

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Just need the rig itself (with the OS itself as well. which you recommend retail one or the OEM?). Mouse, keyboard and monitor, my friend has it already.

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

[Personal preferences] Would prefer NVIDIA build but I am also open to options of having an AMD build as well

[Location] Kuala Lumpur

Thanks!
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Retail version of Windows OS is pricey, just go for OEM key if your friend doesn't have too much money for it.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDRR5 Dual Fan - RM 1249
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3620 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Left RM 400+/- for the OS, some people reported that some sellers (like ETech and Techview) will install the OS for you for free but I am not entirely sure on this, you can try to ask them for confirmation on this

Alternatively, you can look for Garage Sales for OS key but beware of counterfeit key.

To max out 4k budget without including the cost of the OS, you can either upgrade to i7 6700 or 16GB RAM or swap to another case etc.
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post Aug 22 2016, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 22 2016, 10:16 PM)
Retail version of Windows OS is pricey, just go for OEM key if your friend doesn't have too much money for it.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDRR5 Dual Fan - RM 1249
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3620 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Left RM 400+/- for the OS, some people reported that some sellers (like ETech and Techview) will install the OS for you for free but I am not entirely sure on this, you can try to ask them for confirmation on this

Alternatively, you can look for Garage Sales for OS key but beware of counterfeit key.

To max out 4k budget without including the cost of the OS, you can either upgrade to i7 6700 or 16GB RAM or swap to another case etc.
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Thank you so much, terrence. My only concern is, are there any other PSUs aside from this one? This is my first time hearing this brand actually, was wondering if there are any other alternatives only.

Thanks again!

This post has been edited by crazydjrock: Aug 22 2016, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(crazydjrock @ Aug 22 2016, 10:34 PM)
Thank you so much, terrence. My only concern is, are there any other PSUs aside from this one? This is my first time hearing this brand actually, was wondering if there are any other alternatives only.

Thanks again!
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Superflower is one of the best PSU manufacturers out there, so no worries on the quality.

Get Leadex Gold 550W at RM 409 if you aim for top tier PSU (tier 1), the low selling price makes it very worth to get now because usually we have to spend a lot in order to get a tier 1 PSU (typically > RM 600).

You can also look for Seasonic M12II EVO 520W/620W, price is around the same but it is a tier 2 PSU and rated with 80+ Bronze vs 80+ Silver/Gold on Superflower Leadex Silver/Gold.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 22 2016, 10:16 PM)
So you sold off your R9 380 already? Your budget cannot get anything that is better than your R9 380.

The best value GPU in terms of price/performance would be GTX950, around RM 600+.
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Thanks bro. Yah sold long time ady my R9 380. So if can max out my budget about RM900ish, best i can get is RX 470 4GB right? Or any other opinion?

Thanks man.
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Aug 23 2016, 07:34 AM)
Thanks bro. Yah sold long time ady my R9 380. So if can max out my budget about RM900ish, best i can get is RX 470 4GB right? Or any other opinion?

Thanks man.
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Yes, that's the best you can get.

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